[Peanutbutta]

Illuyankas, on 12 February 2010 - 07:32 PM, said:

Doh. I screwed myself over hard by not thinking about what a 0-length night would mean and missed out on the first action. Still, I've kept my win/lose miserably/win/lose miserably Mafia streak going, and did alright on my first merc game, so I'm not too annoyed.

Doublechecked, 'would have succeeded'? MOTHERFUCKER.

It looked like a mistake to me, Illy, that I killed you... shouldn't have happened (Off loses to Int).

[Peanutbutta]

Sir Thursday, on 16 February 2010 - 12:55 AM, said:

Very nice from PB .

This is the sort of thing the game needs right now. People need to start being freer with their information. I get the feeling that people are suspicious of Meanas just because he is sharing, which is NOT GOOD at all. People should be looking at his information a bit more critically, I think. Unfortunately, he's going to get lynched for it, and that will scare others off from doing the same .


Sir Thursday

Bah, you think I'm gonna get lynched that easily?! You don't know me that well, Thursday!

[Peanutbutta]

Path-Shaper, on 16 February 2010 - 03:11 AM, said:

Spite, on 16 February 2010 - 02:04 AM, said:

Well, after a reread and today's events, my bet is that Ruse was Okaros's recruit. That was a decent attempted defence without making it too obvious if that is the case, otherwise I expect it was one of the low posters. Unfortunately, knowing Meanas and Liosan likely started tactical means there is a slim chance Okaros was as well. In other words, recruiting Ruse won't likely succeed, so I will stick with Korbas for now.

Meanas probably saved me with his reveal that recruits get new names, as I was going to go after Korv based on Lu Fan not being named as a warlord.

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Poor Gwynn, constantly guarded by The Dude. Hopefully he'll get recruited into the winning faction as consolation...

Spite, on 16 February 2010 - 03:48 AM, said:

A likely incorrect rundown of where things stand:

There are a few warlords/subs with power greater than one, the list is as follows:

Yaun Shu recruited Liosan night one. Yaun shu is most likely Tulas Shorn, Galayn Lord or Telas.

Yaun Shao likely has a power of three now, with two successful recruits - Meanas and Dong Zhao. If Meanas is to be believed he is Korvalain.

Meanas likely has power greater than two as it is questionable he would post low strength if he had low srength. That part does not serve his new warlord very well unless it is not true.

Okaros. He died day two and his forces have yet to be eliminated, meaning one of the day one recruits was his and is still around.

If we believe that Yaun Shu did recruit a follower of Cao Cao's last night, then Cao Cao must have had a recruit and be one of those with a power of two.

Ma Teng hit a power of two with his recruit of Han Sui. I have no idea who Ma Teng is.

That covers all of the eliminated factions other than Sun Ce, who was the day one lynch and hence did not give anyone a boost in power size.

There may be other subs whithout offensive powers who have hit level two and above. One warlord may have gained a boost in size from rerecruiting Meanas.

Maybe there are still those out there that I can recruit.

Edit: Seeing as it is likely Meanas still has a power of two he would most likely have been recruited by Ma Teng or Yaun Shu.

"That covers all of the eliminated factions other than Sun Ce" -> it does?

Bold is what Gwynn got right. He's a fucking stud!


The italics is about WIFOM. If I say I'm power level 2, every level 3 warlord picks me up to turn on my old master. If I say I'm rank 1, everyone may try to drop NAs on me and waste them if they use my reveal to try and make the matchup.

[Peanutbutta]

Path-Shaper, on 16 February 2010 - 01:06 PM, said:

PB makes a change:

Meanas, on 16 February 2010 - 05:23 AM, said:

New Orders, because Tulas showed some reason, suddenly and may actually be on my team.

Kill Korbas

Definitely not on my team.

Noted.

Stupid! Here's another reason why you CANNOT SECOND GUESS YOURSELF. Even though Tulas added to my reveal with his own lie in a clever manner, I should have still killed him. He was defensive and although his action would have succeeded, I was originally in line way ahead of him and thus would have killed him and gained a level. Instead I wasted it on Korbas.

Never second guess. NEVER!

[Peanutbutta]

Path-Shaper, on 16 February 2010 - 07:32 PM, said:

Ruse, on 16 February 2010 - 07:17 PM, said:

Well, this might be a mistake as, i could be lowering myself on the list, but i need to chnge my NA

I am pretty sure that Telas is Meanas's leader aka Yuan Shao. I can't have him recruiting again. I know he is lower in rank than me so my action will go through on nyone that isn't Yuan Shu ( And would even work on him if he is Tactical) soooo...

Use NA Guard on Telas.

I think its the only way to keep Yuan Shao from getting bigger and i really really hope we lynch Yuan Shu today

Noted.

Impressive that we managed to get Ruse aligned with us by me keeping Sukul out of the light long enough for The Dude to make this one "mistake" (wasn't a mistake for him, but would have crippled us).

[Peanutbutta]

Path-Shaper, on 18 February 2010 - 05:43 AM, said:

Wow, super cross-post removes and votes for a near-lynch but not quite...

Sukul Ankhadu, on 18 February 2010 - 05:24 AM, said:

For crying out loud!!!!

Spite, on 18 February 2010 - 05:50 AM, said:

I have so little chance of winning without being recruited now, it would nearly take a miracle, that I am just going to continue adding whatever WIFOM I can to the game. It may change if I actually recruit someone (hopefully Ruse stands by his word and changes targets), but for now I will just attempt to make everyone a little bit more confused.

Bubba, I wanted to beat you with a stick for those mysterious comments about "getting it right" or whatever lol.

[Peanutbutta]

Path-Shaper, on 18 February 2010 - 06:33 AM, said:

Omtose, on 18 February 2010 - 06:26 AM, said:

aww... I wasn't re-recruited?

how come?

kill GL, btw

noted.

Spite, on 18 February 2010 - 06:27 AM, said:

Recruit Meanas

It seems to me the two warlords are just trying to recruit each others followers at the moment. Fine with me, as long as I can actually recruit someone at some point. Ruse better not still be guarding me.

noted

Gem made a huge mistake IMO. Mentalist was asking to be recruited back, so she got lucky The Dude was willing to parlay.

[Peanutbutta]

Path-Shaper, on 18 February 2010 - 05:21 PM, said:

With the current actions Gwynn will finally get a successful recruit only to immediately get recruited by Gem, leaving PB as a lone warrior of Liu Zhang

Do you have any idea how much I would have raged at getting recruited into a faction like that? It would have been epic after all of my daring moves.

[Peanutbutta]

Path-Shaper, on 19 February 2010 - 05:31 AM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 19 February 2010 - 05:23 AM, said:

Sigh....I have been sitting here waiting for hours to Hammer Telas.....some how I don't thing it is going to happen....

lol. I wrote a scene expecting it a couple hours ago, too!

Galayn Lord, on 19 February 2010 - 05:29 AM, said:

:killingme:

Sukul Ankhadu, on 19 February 2010 - 05:24 AM, said:

I'm going to be troublesome and change my upgraded action to Enlist Troops - and enlist troops for Meanas.
If I understand it correctly I still can change it right.

Okay.

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Darn! And I was so excited for PB to get shafted onto his own team!

Man, thank goodness Gem had this moment of brilliance. The game was almost over, it would have been a critical mistake to risk getting your recruit's armies recruit, and thus Enlist was the correct move. I dodged yet another bullet.

[Peanutbutta]

Path-Shaper, on 19 February 2010 - 07:03 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 19 February 2010 - 06:55 PM, said:

*sigh* It's a shame Sukul did an enlist for Meanas and then went for Spite, because it ruins Spite's chances of a come-from-behind win . Still, Ruse has managed to survive to the final three (although there's no way he's forcing a tie with 8 players lined up against him.

I thought Omtose missed a trick - he should have voted Meanas. He knew that Meanas wasn't on his team because Meanas was voting for Telas. Then all they'd have to do was convince Ruse that they were the superior option, and they would have had a majority going into tomorrow.

Sir Thursday

Aye. I think he was holding back because Meanas wasn't the leader, but even then it would've been a better move.

For sure, that was a major close point in the game. But while I definitely commend Gwynn for playing his heart out despite getting shafted all game by The Dude, I certainly feel like I deserved my own place at the winner's table.

[Peanutbutta]

Path-Shaper, on 19 February 2010 - 07:25 PM, said:

And we now have our three kingdoms!

The historical part of Cao Cao, Prime Minister of the Han and lord of the north and east parts of the realm will instead be Yuan Shao.

The historical part of Sun Ce/Sun Quan, conquerors with little allegiance to the throne who conquered the south will instead be Zhang Ji/Zhang Xiu, who maintain indifference to the throne and instead conquer the west.

The historical part of Liu Bei, the lord with no land of his own who rose from a single man to an entire kingdom will instead be Huang Zhong, who lost his own lord but now seeks to restore the legitimacy of the throne by building his own forces and defeating Yuan Shao.

Huang Zhong he will conquer Liu Yao to take the region of Wu, instead of Liu Bei conquering Liu Zhang to take over Yi.
Ma Teng will crusade against Zhang Ji instead of Cao Cao.
Instead of Yuan Shao's sons causing trouble for Cao Cao in the north, the Gongsun family will cause trouble for Yuan Shao, also in the north.
The Nanman rebellion will threaten Huang Zhon's southern Jing regions instead of Liu Bei's southern Riverlands areas.

Seriously, how do you know all of this stuff and keep it straight? Are you Chinese? Or a Chinese historian?!

[Peanutbutta]

And caught up! Great read, glad we got some late game action going.

MVP candidates have to be:

PB (myself) -- Let's face it, I should have been lynched, and I helped lead Sukul's team to victory. It was an incredible game, underscored only by the preponderance of NA failure.
The Dude -- Amazing play with what he had, special props to Alt for picking defensive, which is so awesome because you can use it on the same person over and over with no negatives
Gem -- she led the winning team, and saved me at the last minute from Gwynn, although she did have two big mistakes earlier (not picking Omtose back up, not getting a night action in night 1)

Special props to Gwynn, who even late in the game had an outside shot at getting to the winner's circle, and for the best analysis!

Thanks for the fun, all! You helped break up the really stressful nature of a busy few weeks at work.

[Ruse]

alt146, on 16 February 2010 - 09:44 AM, said:

I like The Dude's plan of just constantly guarding Spite, if he isnt lynched he'll be untouchable at night come end-game. Force the tie oh honourable minion of mine!

And sorry again for dropping you in a shitty situation

Sorry alt i tried ;;

[Shinrei]

PB, I'd chose you for my team anytime.

Morgy, I don't think you needed to play it so light-fingered. dibs wasn't even playing this one.


Heaven help mafia when lynching a team of me and the Dude becomes a necessity...

[Shinrei]

PB, I'd chose you for my team anytime.

Morgy, I don't think you needed to play it so light-fingered. dibs wasn't even playing this one.


Heaven help mafia when lynching a team of me and the Dude becomes a necessity...

[Morgoth]

true, but I wanted for once to prove that I could .. Picked the worst game to do so though, but alas..

I'd definitely recommend PB as man of the match. That "reveal" of his was a thing of absolute beauty.

[Omtose]

bah... I knew he was being a stinking liar.
I could've made the whole thing implode in his face by revealing Korbas Day 4

[D'rek]

Heck, PB gets man of the match because he kept the energy of the game going over and over again each and every time it was flagging!

[Gem Windcaster]

My best achievement this game is deciding to recruit pb - he showed good energy and determination right from the beginning, so I do take credit for that. Great work PB, you deserve the man of the match title.

The Dude, sorry for grilling you with my overly cautiousness at the end there, I knew I had to take the deal, I just have this mean streak.

About not recruiting Omtose again, I wasn't sure if he was lying about get rerecruited, so I made the decisions from the assumption that I hadn't lost him.

I did mess up the first NA though.

This post has been edited by Gem Windcaster: 20 February 2010 - 04:59 PM

[Gem Windcaster]

Peanutbutta, on 20 February 2010 - 06:38 AM, said:

Man, thank goodness Gem had this moment of brilliance. The game was almost over, it would have been a critical mistake to risk getting your recruit's armies recruit, and thus Enlist was the correct move. I dodged yet another bullet.

Yeah, I suddenly realized; what the heck am I doing, enlist troops is the best upgrade!