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#961 User is offline   Path-Shaper 

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Posted 16 December 2009 - 07:25 PM

It is Day 6. 5 hours and 32 minutes remain in the day.

8 players still alive: Alkend, Fener, Hood's Path, Kalse, Liosan, Rashan, Shadow, Sorrit

5 votes are required to lynch.

1 Vote Hood's Path (Fener)
1 Vote Shadow (Sorrit)

Players who have not voted: Alkend, Hood's Path, Kalse, Liosan, Rashan, Shadow


Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 16 December 2009 - 07:30 PM

Sorrit is one of the 2 people I can vpi. And there is no way I am placing a vote withoutSorrit and/or Kalse on the train. Plus it goes along with my belief that shadow is the Bride as I stated yesterday. He also just tried to out Elle, as well as stated no vote. Things are starting to come together against shadow. I have a feeling there will be a tough time getting a lynch if we are WCS because 3 of the 8 are bride side. This would require all people checking in before deadline. (looks at Fener and Kalse) Hopefully everyone has their say before deadline.

so:

vote Shadow

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Posted 16 December 2009 - 07:33 PM

Shadow's reveal doesn't ring true to me either, so:


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Posted 16 December 2009 - 07:38 PM

View PostRashan, on 16 December 2009 - 07:22 PM, said:

View PostShadow, on 16 December 2009 - 04:06 PM, said:

I personally think it much more likely that if one of the deadly vipers does not have a double vote, that it would be from the assassin or bride's faction.

Unless I am wrong, the only deadly vipers alive are Elle and Bill. I would like to hear from the hot-to-kill nurse on if she has a double vote or not, although I don't see why she would.


Are your really trying to get Elle to announce on thread?


View PostLiosan, on 16 December 2009 - 06:13 PM, said:

Hmmm I don't see why everyone's taking Shadow's reveal as true. Looking through the list of characters on wikipedia there doesn't strike me as anyone who would have no votes and there doesn't seem to be any evidence that he's telling the truth.



This. The only person I can think of that would have no vote would be the bride or the assassin. Unless you have some uber powerful night role. That would be offset by the inability to have your lynch vote count. In this game, against 2 seperate killers, the town's power is in it's lynches and defensive capabilities. Why would a town member be hamstrung with no voting powers.


It is obvious who Elle is.

I have, in my role PM, a line that says I have dedicated my life to helping others, and so my vote does not count.

If you, somehow, think that means I have a nightkill, more power to you I suppose, Sorrit.

Ooo look at the train and look who jumps on quickly. Enjoy what might be your last night, Sorrit/Kalse.

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Posted 16 December 2009 - 07:38 PM

Well i can definitely see it as possible as has been one of the people hiding a bit below the radar until recently, and there have been a few things hes said including that comment about Elle just now that struck me as a bit odd. For now il place a vote while i go and check if i can see any possible allies from his as the Bride.
Vote Shadow

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Posted 16 December 2009 - 07:39 PM

Well we'll know now if Rashan does have a double vote then Shadow should be dead i think..

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Posted 16 December 2009 - 07:40 PM

I dont.

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Posted 16 December 2009 - 07:42 PM

Nope, like all good town roles, I need extra votes to lynch me.

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Posted 16 December 2009 - 07:49 PM

It is Day 6. 5 hours and 9 minutes remain in the day.

8 players still alive: Alkend, Fener, Hood's Path, Kalse, Liosan, Rashan, Shadow, Sorrit

5 votes are required to lynch.

1 Vote Hood's Path (Fener)
4 Votes Shadow (Sorrit, Rashan, Liosan, Alkend)

Players who have not voted: Hood's Path, Kalse, Shadow


Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 16 December 2009 - 07:51 PM

View PostAlkend, on 16 December 2009 - 07:38 PM, said:

Well i can definitely see it as possible as has been one of the people hiding a bit below the radar until recently, and there have been a few things hes said including that comment about Elle just now that struck me as a bit odd. For now il place a vote while i go and check if i can see any possible allies from his as the Bride.
Vote Shadow


That's a dodgy vote right there. Especially with the comment after it about how it might just be that Shadow is now dead if Rashan has a double vote. I threw that vote out there to see who would follow, and got three votes just like that. This one is the dodgiest.

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Vote Alkend


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Posted 16 December 2009 - 07:51 PM

Oh, by the way, I need 2 extra votes to lynch me, not just one.

I had a BP, which was removed night 1.

If you do manage to lynch me, you should know the following:
1) Although it will seem like it by my CF, I am not on the Bride's team. My Victory conditions are to be alive when the game ends. Therefore, the only thing I am attempting to do is stay alive and kill the assassin, since his victory conditions are the only ones the preclude mine. Some people suggested earlier in the thread that a certain sword maker would be the one person on the brides team. I can pretty confidently say that this is not true.
2) I am able to heal each night. I have been healing Kalse since his reveal as Bill. I don't care if you believe this or not, because either way Kalse will not die tonight as long as I am alive, as either I will die or my heal will keep the hit off Kalse.
3) I am unable to vote, as I noted, due to dedicating my life to helping people and atoning for my previous mistakes.

Lets see if this gets me modkilled for revealing.

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Posted 16 December 2009 - 07:54 PM

So you are saying you actually trust Shadow's reveal Sorrit? I can see that there seems to be no reason for scum to out themselves like that, but it seems perfect WIFOM to me, as it makes us spend time trying to find out who it is with the two votes, possibly ignoring much better avenues of investigation.

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Posted 16 December 2009 - 07:54 PM

remove vote

Dammit Sorrit. If there would have been a lurker... dangerous plan.

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Posted 16 December 2009 - 07:55 PM

View PostSorrit, on 16 December 2009 - 07:51 PM, said:

View PostAlkend, on 16 December 2009 - 07:38 PM, said:

Well i can definitely see it as possible as has been one of the people hiding a bit below the radar until recently, and there have been a few things hes said including that comment about Elle just now that struck me as a bit odd. For now il place a vote while i go and check if i can see any possible allies from his as the Bride.
Vote Shadow


That's a dodgy vote right there. Especially with the comment after it about how it might just be that Shadow is now dead if Rashan has a double vote. I threw that vote out there to see who would follow, and got three votes just like that. This one is the dodgiest.

Remove Vote
Vote Alkend



I think either Alkend or Fener are the assassin.

I believe that HP and Rashan are the bride team.

I would be all for offing the assassin, but I am under hte impression that you and Kalse and the other townie (whoever it is between alkend and fener) want to off the Bride before the Assassin.

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Posted 16 December 2009 - 07:57 PM

And I forgot Liosan in there.

Why am I always forgetting either HP or Liosan...

Is it because they are the biggest lurkers in the game? Yes! Amazing!

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Posted 16 December 2009 - 08:00 PM

View PostShadow, on 16 December 2009 - 07:55 PM, said:

View PostSorrit, on 16 December 2009 - 07:51 PM, said:

View PostAlkend, on 16 December 2009 - 07:38 PM, said:

Well i can definitely see it as possible as has been one of the people hiding a bit below the radar until recently, and there have been a few things hes said including that comment about Elle just now that struck me as a bit odd. For now il place a vote while i go and check if i can see any possible allies from his as the Bride.
Vote Shadow


That's a dodgy vote right there. Especially with the comment after it about how it might just be that Shadow is now dead if Rashan has a double vote. I threw that vote out there to see who would follow, and got three votes just like that. This one is the dodgiest.

Remove Vote
Vote Alkend



I think either Alkend or Fener are the assassin.

I believe that HP and Rashan are the bride team.

I would be all for offing the assassin, but I am under hte impression that you and Kalse and the other townie (whoever it is between alkend and fener) want to off the Bride before the Assassin.


Well i want to get the bride first because i see her as closer to winning and hence more of a threat than the assassin (or i would have voted Rashan by now). Im not sure about your reveal, because if your revealing who i think you are then a heal doesnt really fit and you helping Bill really doesnt fit especially with the scene we got night 1. so i think il keep my vote where it is for now

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Posted 16 December 2009 - 08:02 PM

It is Day 6. 4 hours and 56 minutes remain in the day.

8 players still alive: Alkend, Fener, Hood's Path, Kalse, Liosan, Rashan, Shadow, Sorrit

5 votes are required to lynch.

1 Vote Hood's Path (Fener)
2 Votes Shadow (Liosan, Alkend)
1 Vote Alkend (Sorrit)

Players who have not voted: Hood's Path, Kalse, Rashan, Shadow


Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 16 December 2009 - 08:03 PM

View PostRashan, on 16 December 2009 - 07:54 PM, said:

remove vote

Dammit Sorrit. If there would have been a lurker... dangerous plan.


I knew I'd be around. With nothing jumping out at me on the readthrough, seemed like the best way to go to actually start to be able to make head or tails of the game.

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Posted 16 December 2009 - 08:04 PM

View PostAlkend, on 16 December 2009 - 08:00 PM, said:

View PostShadow, on 16 December 2009 - 07:55 PM, said:

View PostSorrit, on 16 December 2009 - 07:51 PM, said:

View PostAlkend, on 16 December 2009 - 07:38 PM, said:

Well i can definitely see it as possible as has been one of the people hiding a bit below the radar until recently, and there have been a few things hes said including that comment about Elle just now that struck me as a bit odd. For now il place a vote while i go and check if i can see any possible allies from his as the Bride.
Vote Shadow


That's a dodgy vote right there. Especially with the comment after it about how it might just be that Shadow is now dead if Rashan has a double vote. I threw that vote out there to see who would follow, and got three votes just like that. This one is the dodgiest.

Remove Vote
Vote Alkend



I think either Alkend or Fener are the assassin.

I believe that HP and Rashan are the bride team.

I would be all for offing the assassin, but I am under hte impression that you and Kalse and the other townie (whoever it is between alkend and fener) want to off the Bride before the Assassin.


Well i want to get the bride first because i see her as closer to winning and hence more of a threat than the assassin (or i would have voted Rashan by now). Im not sure about your reveal, because if your revealing who i think you are then a heal doesnt really fit and you helping Bill really doesnt fit especially with the scene we got night 1. so i think il keep my vote where it is for now


i know it dosen't.

I bitched to PB about it. I also bitched that he said 'these are the victory conditions', and didn't list mine. He replied that he never said those were the only victory conditions, and that I would just have to live with the role as he designed it.

The funny thing is, I have no need, or desire, to convince you of anything. I need only convince Kalse and Sorrit, who everyone does, actually, have to follow to 'appear' innocent.

Also sorritt, I am somewhat perturbed that your 'plan' caused me to reveal before I was lynched :crybaby: I doubt either the bride or assassin would have targetted me tonight, since I was trying to seem lynchable. Oh will, if we get the bride today, it shouldn't matter.

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Posted 16 December 2009 - 08:12 PM

View PostShadow, on 16 December 2009 - 08:04 PM, said:

Also sorritt, I am somewhat perturbed that your 'plan' caused me to reveal before I was lynched :crybaby: I doubt either the bride or assassin would have targetted me tonight, since I was trying to seem lynchable. Oh will, if we get the bride today, it shouldn't matter.


I wouldn't have gone after someone I didn't have a modicum of doubt about, but PB said the game would be unfair right at the start, so I knew my reasoning for my vote on you wasn't particularly solid. I'm not 100% sure about your reveal, but the way Alkend jumped at the chance to put a vote down (and then ignored my change of vote) makes me feel a lot more suspicious about him.

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