[Liosan]

Epicly slow weekend. Where is everyone? I am quite busy with some projects, but will try to post some thoughts later.

[Alkend]

Well i got back at 4am, woke up at 2 then had to do shopping, now im drinking ready to go out again... Might be around tomorrow

[Alkend]

Still no people have people started hibernating or something

[Alkend]

and on that note im off to bed

[Path-Shaper]

Tis definitely a slow weekend

[Eloth]

Well I am here for a bit. So Korbas was obviously telling the truth and we lost Barghast and Olar.
I am a little surprised by the Barghast kill though, I think I might need to go look back on him.

So based off yesterdays stuff Sorrit is suspect number 1 at the moment. However Sorrit has said he can send messages to people at night which if we get some verfication from that would be nice.

Sorrit who did you send messages to Nights 1, 2 and 3?

[Hood's Path]

Damn I disappear due to my brother visit and looks what happens. Seriously smothering a 4 year old PB, you should had Bill sacrifice her to the old gods by taking out her heart and eating it.

[Path-Shaper]

Chargers won! Woo hoo!

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. 25 hours and 38 minutes remain. The clock will resume running again in precisely 3 hours and 3 minutes.

13 players still alive: Alkend, D'riss, Eloth, Fener, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kalse, Karatallid, Liosan, Mockra, Rashan, Shadow, Sorrit

7 votes are required to lynch.


Players who have not voted: Alkend, D'riss, Eloth, Fener, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kalse, Karatallid, Liosan, Mockra, Rashan, Shadow, Sorrit

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I'm headed out for dinner. The clock will start up in 3 hours, as promised. Enjoy yourselves

[Eloth]

Well I see nothing else has happened over the weekend. Guess we are waiting for everyone to show up today.

[D'riss]

Well I am here now and actually have a bit of time to play for a change.

Dont really have much to add to yesterday's semi-revealfest other than it's a little suspiscious the way some people stated very clearly what Kalse and Korbas were trying to remain vague about. Or at least I remember thinking "why would you actually go and say that" a couple of times. I will have to look again who exactly it was.

Not incredibly surprised Bargy and Olar where NK'd. I think the Bride and the assassin will both be focusing on each other now that there are so few Vipers left alive, since they pose the biggest threat to each other at this stage. Bargy was mentioned as a possible bride and Olar was pretty active without being in the thick of things so someone might have thought they were the assassin. Just speculation mind you, but I dont see either the bride or the assassin targeting players who've had a lot of attention due to the large amount of roles and therefore high possibility of a healer.

[Galayn Lord]

Back from shopping hell.


Well, I'm a bit surprised with the two kills. There was this idea floating around that the Bride could do finds and would keep her NKs for when she knew who she was targetting, but unless she could sense a specific danger for her in one of O'Rens buddies it seems it's not as clear-cut as that.

Also, I'm not sure about D'riss' idea that the Bride is focusing on the Assassin, since every NK from him adds to her chances of getting the ones she needs killed increase. Unless she's running low on BPs and she's getting worried.

Anyways, Sorrit pulled us a quick reveal with the hammer, which I don't see the point of. I'll go read it again to see if it makes sense.

[D'riss]

Galayn Lord, on 14 December 2009 - 08:40 AM, said:

Back from shopping hell.


Well, I'm a bit surprised with the two kills. There was this idea floating around that the Bride could do finds and would keep her NKs for when she knew who she was targetting, but unless she could sense a specific danger for her in one of O'Rens buddies it seems it's not as clear-cut as that.

Also, I'm not sure about D'riss' idea that the Bride is focusing on the Assassin, since every NK from him adds to her chances of getting the ones she needs killed increase. Unless she's running low on BPs and she's getting worried.

Anyways, Sorrit pulled us a quick reveal with the hammer, which I don't see the point of. I'll go read it again to see if it makes sense.

You forget that eliminating the assassin is also part of the bride's victory conditions and I would think at this point he is more of a threat than the remaining Vipers. So the chances of the assassin killing a Viper has to be balanced against the assassin killing her and getting closer to his own goals. At least that's how I would be thinking. There is also a pretty good chance one of the two kills was a vig and the bride is still concentrating on using finds.

[Karatallid]

Wow, the weekend really sucked the life out of the thread. Unfortunately I wont be on to post my thoughts for a few more hours, sucks that I was wrong about Barghast though. More later.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. 13 hours and 27 minutes remain. 2 hours and 33 minutes ago, there were 16 hours and 0 minutes left in the day.

13 players still alive: Alkend, D'riss, Eloth, Fener, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kalse, Karatallid, Liosan, Mockra, Rashan, Shadow, Sorrit

7 votes are required to lynch.


Players who have not voted: Alkend, D'riss, Eloth, Fener, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kalse, Karatallid, Liosan, Mockra, Rashan, Shadow, Sorrit

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The rain steadily fell upon the umbrella shielding Bill. He stood solemly by the grave, his hands softly clasped together. Last rites had already been performed, and the razor-thin crowd had cleared out to only two.

He was done crying, although not done being upset.

Despite the pitter patter of the rain drops upon the umbrella drape, the silence was deafening.

"Bill, you don't owe--" Elle began, but was quickly cut off.

"Elle... that's quite enough."

"But Bill, remember what Beatrix did to you?!" Elle was incredulous at Bill's continued affections for his traitorous lover.

"Elle, she'll get hers in due time. But today, we mourn. I owe her that."

Elle grumbled to herself but said nothing more. She was annoyed with Bill's obstinance, but was also slightly frustrated with her own situation. Surely Beatrix would be coming for her soon, and Elle wanted to make sure she was ready. She decided any more on the subject wasn't worth the argument.

She let the issue die, in the cold, gray afternoon.

Somewhere near the cemetery, a large clock tower bell began to ring. The day was halfway over.

[Alkend]

Hmmm well that weekend was definitely a bit dead. On the two kill thing, doesnt seem that odd to me as it seems likely that both the Bride and the Assassin can kill.
Right now i agree with Eltoh in that i would like to hear who else Sorrit gave a message to, and why if he targetted Kalse on night one (i think this is what he said) and it was reflected did he not go after him on day 2 instead of waiting till day 3.

[Rashan]

I'm back from a long weird weekend in which I cut off the tip of my finger...wtf.. who does that. Makes typing rather weird

Anyway, game related. I was thinking about the NK's and I know its all Wifom, but I think the Barghast kill had to be the assassin. I can't see why the bride would kill him. He was under a lot of scrutiny and was a possible lynch target for today. Maybe the assassin bought into the hype and took out Bargh in hopes of getting the Bride.

The Olar Kill, i went back and read up a bit on Olar, I can't really see why he would have been killed. He was pretty active, had a theory of GL as the bride, but that didn't seem to be getting much play

So all in all i am not sure how much we can learn from the NK's as it will all boil down to wifom at some point.

[Rashan]

I think today we need to sort out the Sorrit issue, some clarification of what he is claiming other than "I can send messages" would be nice.

Also, we know the bride has allies. I am going to assume the bride and 2 allies. I think we need to be looking at who has had pressure that's kind of fizzled, or someone who keeps gettin pressure deflected from.

To me the game now breaks down into

Bride- 3 remaining
Assassin- 1 remaining
Vipers- 3 remaining
Support/roled inno 6 remaining

If we go another lynch and 2 nk's with out getting any of the bride or her allies we start getting into a bit of trouble here. As it will be 4 scum vs. 6 innos. and the 3 person bride team (assumed 3) becomes a very powerful voting block.

Sorrit has said that he is able to send messages. It's been proven (based on the cluster fuck between Tellan and Spite) that Vipers don't know each other. To me it would make sense that the bride/allies have some way of communicating. Sorrit has only said "I can send messages"

So for right now I think Sorrit is one of the Bride's allies. I don't think he is the assassin as it makes no sense for the assassin to be able to send messages.

I am gonna hold off on my vote until he comes on and gives an explanation. but as of now my vote is slated for sorrit.

One thing Spite mentioned that i think needs repeating. As long as Kalse is alive, the bride and the assassin can't win. We need to keep him alive.

[Hood's Path]

Raschan you wanting Sorrit to explain himself is dependent on him being on and answering. Also if there is no votes against him he is more likely to ignoreour suspicions, only with votes will you put pressure on him.

The fact that he was adamant that vipers know each other is a odd position for a RI, you should never assume such a detail unless you know otherwise. Which would place him as a player with the ability to talk to people. Now it looks like very heavily that the Vipers aren't in communication, but the bride team may be, wouldn't be the first time someone assumes that because their team is set up like that the enemy has to be a mirror for balance purposes.

So Sorrit can you please give an explanation that would suggest you aren't part of the brides faction.

Vote Sorrit

[Alkend]

Il join you on that because i really want to see proof that he can actually send messages because at the moment we only have his word for it which he could easily have thrown out just because he somehow knew about a role reflector.
Vote Sorrit