[Alkend]

I have to say it might also slightly explain why Sorrit has been attacking you, if i did a find or something on you and it came back as himself. I know that would definitely make me suspicious

[Eloth]

Are you saying that you did that Korbas? Because if you did that could be quite interesting.

Sorrit is thinking there is a reflection thing happening because he did a find on Kalse and the find turned out to be 'The Bride' his own CF? So Night 2 he goes for the kill because he thinks thats really weird and must be a Viper. So the kill is redirected to Karatallid, and Day 3 the case on Kalse?

[Korbas]

Kalse, on 11 December 2009 - 05:30 PM, said:

Korbas, on 11 December 2009 - 05:23 PM, said:

Kalse, on 11 December 2009 - 05:15 PM, said:

Korbas, on 11 December 2009 - 05:12 PM, said:

Rashan, on 11 December 2009 - 05:02 PM, said:

Korbas, is there anything you want to get off your chest before the Lynch? If you do come up the kid, your words would definately hold some weight as they are coming from an unaligned player thats not with the Bride's side. Suspicions? Suspects? Do you still feel Sorrit is Scum?

I still consider that very likely, seeing how his defense was filled with wifom.
Add to that what Sorrit said about the ability he knew: the reflection of ALL abilities back to the one who used it. That basically means immunity to night actions, and to that person only being lynchable while the ability is active. That does not sound like an inno role to me.


If you re-read around the time of my reveal, you'll spot that Liosan was saying a few things Sorrit said, too.
Unfortunately, very few of you grasped what I was saying straight away, so it could be ascribed to confusion.

I am also suspicious of HPs absence - I think he checks in once a day. If I alted him right, he's usually amongst the high posters and I can't say I recall him saying he would be sparsely available. Strategic lurking is my guess.

Also, as long as Kalse is alive, the Bride can't win. End of story. That should be priority number 1.

So whatever reflection thing Sorrit and Lio are going on about isn't of your causing, then?

What would you say if I said I redirected from Sorrit to you and vice versa night 1?

I'd say I personally have no reason to disbelieve that, as I didn't even notice it. I guess no one targeted Sorrit with anything night 1.

apart from, just maybe, his own action against you.

That would mean he targeted you night 1, it was redirected to him (so if he has a killing ability, he lost a BP there...).
Night 2, a kill targets you, it is shifted to Karatallid.
Day 3, he makes a case on you.

That is why I was a little bit more certain he was scum - fact that he at the least would not have been able to target you two nights in a row if my action succeeded twice.
If he is scum, it is plausible it was he who had concluded you could not be killed through convenient (edit: should be conventional) means - I revealed only after he had made his case and only after Kara had announced he was targeted, after all.

This post has been edited by Korbas: 11 December 2009 - 05:44 PM

[Korbas]

Eloth, on 11 December 2009 - 05:37 PM, said:

Are you saying that you did that Korbas? Because if you did that could be quite interesting.

Sorrit is thinking there is a reflection thing happening because he did a find on Kalse and the find turned out to be 'The Bride' his own CF? So Night 2 he goes for the kill because he thinks thats really weird and must be a Viper. So the kill is redirected to Karatallid, and Day 3 the case on Kalse?

before Karatallid revealed he was targeted, Sorrit had made his case, aye. Only after Karatallid did I step in and made my accusation of Sorrit.

[Korbas]

Alkend, on 11 December 2009 - 05:32 PM, said:

I have to say it might also slightly explain why Sorrit has been attacking you, if i did a find or something on you and it came back as himself. I know that would definitely make me suspicious

but then, why wait till day 3 and not do it day 2?

[Korbas]

Anyway, I have said all I know, have named all my suspicions, too.
I suggest that you start proceeding lynching me.

[Sorrit]

Hi everyone, catching up. Looks like there's been a lot happening...

[Korbas]

Sorrit, on 11 December 2009 - 05:46 PM, said:

Hi everyone, catching up. Looks like there's been a lot happening...

Oh yes. You'll live for one more night, apparently.

[Korbas]

Oh, one more warning.
Be highly suspicious of anyone that says he doesn't know the movies. Claiming ignorance is a good excuse to get out of stuff, and theres plenty to be found on google ( most definately on the vipers, the crazy 88, the bride, etc., and this being a Tarantino movie, I have no doubt whatsoever that the dialogues are also in a large part documented).

[Alkend]

Korbas, on 11 December 2009 - 05:41 PM, said:

Alkend, on 11 December 2009 - 05:32 PM, said:

I have to say it might also slightly explain why Sorrit has been attacking you, if i did a find or something on you and it came back as himself. I know that would definitely make me suspicious

but then, why wait till day 3 and not do it day 2?

Hmmm thats a good point, il have to check what Sorrit actually did on day 2 to try and figure that out though.
Eloth brings up a good point that seems to fit what we know that he could be the bride who did a find and a kill on Kalse

[Korbas]

Alkend, on 11 December 2009 - 05:57 PM, said:

Korbas, on 11 December 2009 - 05:41 PM, said:

Alkend, on 11 December 2009 - 05:32 PM, said:

I have to say it might also slightly explain why Sorrit has been attacking you, if i did a find or something on you and it came back as himself. I know that would definitely make me suspicious

but then, why wait till day 3 and not do it day 2?

Hmmm thats a good point, il have to check what Sorrit actually did on day 2 to try and figure that out though.
Eloth brings up a good point that seems to fit what we know that he could be the bride who did a find and a kill on Kalse

Shadow's case earlier in the game could be a good place to start.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 7 hours and 6 minutes remain.

16 players still alive: Alkend, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Fener, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kalse, Karatallid, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Rashan, Shadow, Sorrit

9 votes are required to lynch.

1 Votes Sorrit (Liosan)
1 Vote Barghast (Karatallid)
8 Votes Korbas (Kalse, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Shadow, Galayn Lord, Korbas, Alkend, Rashan)

Players who have not voted: Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Fener, Hood's Path, Sorrit

---

I'll be here for another 1.5 hours then I'm off for a long lunch.

[Liosan]

Right I am back. Looks like it has been decided what to do. Should I hammer or is there anything Korbas wishes to add before that?

[Rashan]

I believe Korbas says he needs 10 for a lynch, unless I misread once again.

I am going to go back and look at shadow's case. I didn't give it much Credence the first time, I'll look again and re-evaluate.

[Alkend]

he said that hes said all he knows so i think you might s well hammer.

Well checking Sorrits stuff on day 2 there isnt much, its basically just talk about FM, and a few posts asking about clarification and one in response to Shadows case from what i can see. No mention of Kalse that i could see, but his first post today was a pretty thin case on Kalse iirc so id say that if he did target Kalse for something and got someone else then it was probably just last night, not the first.

[Liosan]

Ah yes, I see that post now, therefore:

Vote Korbas

[Rashan]

Korbas, on 11 December 2009 - 05:13 PM, said:

Eloth, on 11 December 2009 - 05:05 PM, said:

So that puts Korbas at L-1 so I will hold off voting. Lucky I refreshed before posting there.

I guess we should wait for Korbas, I want to know his thoughts on Sorrit as well.

I require 1 additional vote to be lynched.

I knew I saw it.... so he is actually at L-2

X-post with Lio- so actually L-1 now.

This post has been edited by Rashan: 11 December 2009 - 06:16 PM

[Kalse]

Rashan, on 11 December 2009 - 06:14 PM, said:

Korbas, on 11 December 2009 - 05:13 PM, said:

Eloth, on 11 December 2009 - 05:05 PM, said:

So that puts Korbas at L-1 so I will hold off voting. Lucky I refreshed before posting there.

I guess we should wait for Korbas, I want to know his thoughts on Sorrit as well.

I require 1 additional vote to be lynched.

I knew I saw it.... so he is actually at L-2

X-post with Lio- so actually L-1 now.

oh, i thought that was just fancy talk for him being at L-1?

[Alkend]

Shadow, on 09 December 2009 - 03:50 PM, said:

So I did a re-read from page 3, and you know who stands out to me?
Sorrit.
Sure, Tellan was in a pissing match with Spite. Why did Sorrit jump in there? Why did he feel the need to be involved, meanwhile I don't think Sorrit voted.
Then, he vanishes until a little earlier today, when he starts spouting off about a FM. Sowing confusion and paranoia? Quite happy with that implosion from Spite, and now are trying to turn people who possibly know of each other against each other?

Vote Sorrit

I also agree with Korbas's post 380 (6 posts up) in its entirety. Look, now I'm symping him too!

Shadow, on 10 December 2009 - 07:20 PM, said:

Vote Sorrit
For what I posted yesterday, and an utter lack of changing what he/she is doing.
Why did the thread get stuck up in FM discussion for hours? Sorrit. Who kept the pissing match going on day 1? Sorrit.
Then who gets on today, makes the 'guilty trying to sound inno' "Oh gosh another viper gone!" statement, then creates a case on one person, which although I don't agree with, isn't "too" bad. Then says 'oh and Barghast for the same reasons'. Excuse me?


Another person I think is 'icky' is Olar Ethil, for the same reason as Sorrit.



See how pointless and stupid that is? If you make a case on someone, you don't then say 'oh this person is doing the same thing, so I'm willing to vote them too, but I wont even mention them except for a throw-away line.'


I guess my case is this: Who is sowing confusion all over the place? Sorrit. Who benefits from a lot of confusion? The Bride or the Assassin. Both of whom have to die. You all know that the person who first brings up the 'what if...' statement is generally the person that has that role. When was there ever mention of FM anywhere? How would a FM work in Kill Bill? I noticed someone mentioned this directly to Sorrit earlier, but if there was a response to it, I missed it.

@Rashan - I freely admit that the first day spam, and then the fact that I keep missing anything happening sucks. Do I think it merits a vote? Not really, but hey, that vote is on me so of course I am going to say I don't want it there!

heres Shadows cases on Sorrit for anyone looking for them.
Does make a bit of sense, as looking at those examples it does seem like he is trying to sow confusion, but its definitely not an air tight case by any stretch

[Korbas]

Kalse, on 11 December 2009 - 06:16 PM, said:

Rashan, on 11 December 2009 - 06:14 PM, said:

Korbas, on 11 December 2009 - 05:13 PM, said:

Eloth, on 11 December 2009 - 05:05 PM, said:

So that puts Korbas at L-1 so I will hold off voting. Lucky I refreshed before posting there.

I guess we should wait for Korbas, I want to know his thoughts on Sorrit as well.

I require 1 additional vote to be lynched.

I knew I saw it.... so he is actually at L-2

X-post with Lio- so actually L-1 now.

oh, i thought that was just fancy talk for him being at L-1?

as you can see, apparently not. Why would I lie about something that trivial?