[Olar Ethil]

seems people are leaving me again...

I've done a GL re-read, and he seems to be making the most sense on Day 2, actually.

however, since the Tellan lynch he's yet to add anything of value, and considering he's had a bunch of posts, that's suspicious.\

If bride and her allies can have off-thread comms, i'm looking at the Rashan-GL-Fener triangle for our scum.

[Barghast]

Not gone yet, just rereading things.

[Kalse]

im takin off, gotta go to bed pretty soon anyhow and wanna get some chores done before i do.

[Olar Ethil]

well, i'll have to go to bed soon, since my bosses told me that on the penalty of something really bad I have to be at work on time tomorrow,

[Rashan]

Olar Ethil, on 11 December 2009 - 04:52 AM, said:

ok, so today GL's been pretty much all over the Assasin, than said we should be looking for the Bride, then admitted his "case" on Liosan has goten weaker and makes less sense.

so, in short, he's said a lot about nothing, but made himself seem like he was really participating.

hmm, you know, doing the re-read, it strikes me as really odd that on Day 1 Rashan makes a "lac of serious posts" case on GL, GL goes all snarky back at him, and now it's Day 3, and Rash is looking to GL for guidance.

Vote Galayn Lord

your contribution today amounted to nothing, and I think you're hiding in plain site.

I didn't say he had a lack of serious posts.. I said he looked like he was trying to contribute. Also, i wouldn't mind a GL lynch tbh. I still think his reaction to my Day 1 case was really really odd. Look back, he basically says wtf.. then in the next post gets all pissy and votes me. Why get so worked up over a day 1 case?

Also look at todays interaction between he and I.. it looks like he is trying to symp me. I brought it up in one post before the whole reveal. Kinda got lost.

Anyway, i see what you are saying and if i didn't know better , would be inclined to agree. But i do know better..


I am going to bed now. I'll be on tomorrow well before lynch time.

G'night

[Olar Ethil]

meh, same difference in the end, imho. it was a day 1 case, and he got all snarky, but today you guys have been talking like nothing happened.

anyhow, i'm also off to bed, i'll be up before deadline, though i'll have to go to work before it, too, lol

[D'riss]

Wow the game picked in a big way since Tellan's lynch.

I kind of believe Korbas's reveal. The role he claims to have is called 'the busdriver', I saw a description of it once in a mafiascum role description thing while looking for game ideas. And his logic is reasonably sound, if scum fail to kill someone at night, there is a good chance they might try push a case against that person the next day. So his case against Sorrit does make a bit of sense. And revealing to go after someone the believe has some sort of NK makes sense, although it is maybe a little premature, since it's not rock solid proof that it was Sorrit who attacked Kalse last night.

The thing is though, if I've heard of the role there's nothing to say Korbas hasn't either. It's a bit obscure to use in a fake reveal though. It would be nice if there was some way we could verify he is telling the truth. Karat claimed to have lost a BP before Korbas revealed, so Korbas could have pulled appropriate two names out of a hat, but that only works if Korbas' aim here is to get Sorrit lynched, not get the bride/assassin lynched. Which is a bit of a stretch, but I want to get all my thoughts on screen.

So I'm inclined to believe Korbas is telling the truth for now, but I dont see that as definitive proof that Sorrit is a killer. It is a possibility though.

Shadow has gone form saying nothing of value to wall-o-text almost immediately after someone pressured him for lack of participation. Doesn't mean he's scum per se, but it is a little suspicious. Will have to reread GL, but I cant remember him saying anything of note. But there's a couple of players that fall into that category at the moment (I'm trying my best to stay out of it, but I've been hellishly busy), so that doesnt say much.

[Galayn Lord]

Korbas, on 10 December 2009 - 10:36 PM, said:

Not good enough, mate.
I will tell a tad bit of what I can do.

I can switch the targets of night actions.
I pick two people, and whatever targets the one, instead targets the other, and vice versa. The second I saw the role, I knew this would be a perfect trap to catch me a scum, if I was lucky and dared to play high profile. As you will see upon reading back, in my first post, I picked Kalse to vote for. He was convenient, for he was around already.
I then got into a pissing match with Spite, also very convenient to raise my profile and make killers read back on me. I hinted left and right at knowledge, and knew people would read back on me, and conclude I was someone who knows a viper.

Last night, I picked Kalse and Karatallid to exchange as targets.
Karatallid was a convenient target, as he and I had gotten into a shouting match on whether or not the Vipers knew one another - he said they did, I said they didn't. More ways to portray me as someone in the know.

Now, what happens today?
I see a case against Kalse.
Karatallid comes on and reveals he was the target of a kill.

Bingo. It isn't too hard to connect the dots, now is it?

Back and DKaTchinp up, and this is very interesting.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 18 hours and 58 minutes remain.

16 players still alive: Alkend, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Fener, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kalse, Karatallid, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Rashan, Shadow, Sorrit

9 votes are required to lynch.

1 Vote Liosan (Galayn Lord)
2 Votes Sorrit (Shadow, Korbas)
1 Vote Shadow (Kalse)
1 Vote Barghast (Karatallid)
1 Vote Korbas (Sorrit)
1 Vote Galayn Lord (Olar Ethil)

Players who have not voted: Alkend, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Fener, Hood's Path, Liosan, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Rashan

---

[Korbas]

Kalse, on 07 December 2009 - 09:26 PM, said:

Korbas, on 07 December 2009 - 09:25 PM, said:

Third, and out of envy: vote Kalse. Because he has an avatar and I do not.Anyone else curious what happens if you adress The Bride the wrong way?

you bastard!

Here's he vote I talked about.

Korbas, on 07 December 2009 - 09:27 PM, said:

Lots and lots of early distancing going on here, I sense, with all the hulk rage. you'd almost think you spent 4 years in a coma, or a day buried alive...

Here's a hint about distancing.

Korbas, on 07 December 2009 - 10:56 PM, said:

Same for me. Bed is calling, also have a movie to watch. Night night.

Who watches a movie in the movie Kill Bill 2 (see the earlier Pai Mei reference I dropped?)

Korbas, on 08 December 2009 - 04:01 PM, said:

Spite, on 08 December 2009 - 02:16 PM, said:

Korbas, on 08 December 2009 - 12:13 PM, said:

I dislike how people speak of priorities, as if we have the luxury of choice.

After all, finder and CF results excepted, there is no way of knowing the alignment of whomever you target/ lynch.

Moreover, taking out the Assassin before we take out The Bride will from there on roughly halve the chances that a kill targets one of the Vipers, assuming The Bride and Assassin are capable of 1 NK each, thus buying more time for us to also get rid of The Bride.

In the quite frankly unlikely instance where we have the luxury of knowing the identity of both, of course we should lynch The Bride first, but up until then, I wouldn't pass up on the opportunity to get rid of the Assassin as well.

edit: adding the Enters I had there in the first place. The boards upgrade seems to mess with a whole lot of things

so you dislike how we talk about priorities when your happy to discuss how things will be when the assassin is taken out? Why not the bride first? As if anyone is going to go - oh wait we know the assassin lets leave them alone for a while. They are all scum.

vote korbas

i think you are the bride.

Edit: Weird. I would have sworn I had the 'cry me a river, dickbag' comment quoted. Oh well.

If I wasn't determined to play the game as I think it should be played, I wouldn't consider your post worthy of replying as your every word shows you care more about polishing your pole and satisfying your inner baboon that relishes noting more than throwing your shit around. Were I a four year old, I could appreciate that.If you want to get serious, explain to me how we are going to be able to choose who we take care of first, bride or assassin.

A four year old.

That enough signing and clue dangling for you?

This post has been edited by Korbas: 11 December 2009 - 06:24 AM

[Galayn Lord]

Olar Ethil, on 11 December 2009 - 04:59 AM, said:

seems people are leaving me again...

I've done a GL re-read, and he seems to be making the most sense on Day 2, actually.

however, since the Tellan lynch he's yet to add anything of value, and considering he's had a bunch of posts, that's suspicious.\

If bride and her allies can have off-thread comms, i'm looking at the Rashan-GL-Fener triangle for our scum.

Er, are you going to lynch me or not based on how much sense you decide I'm making or what? That's like shooting at my feet and asking me to DANCE!

I'm trying to find ways to narrow down the list of suspects. I hate symping cases, because we don't know know if the innos have their own pairs of players that could signal/defend each other, plus I'm quite sure the Assassin doesn't have symps.

The Vipers have been decimated so far in the game, and I'm guessing from now on they'll play VERY similar to what we would consider "scummy" in normal games, i.e. stay the fuck out of the light.

The thing with Korbas and the hit on Kalse I don't like either. Like someone said, if a killer fails a kill, he'll just try again next night, he doesn't need that person lynched. So what if Korbas is right? Sorritt could be an inno vig, who targeted Kalse for whatever reason (paired with a find?), and since he couldn't do it he had to try to lynch him since his vig was spent. Again, I'm not saying that's what happened, but I believe that if Korbas is right in reading that Sorrit's case is not a coincidence, then we might be reading it the wrong way.

That's why I've been trying to accumulate information using other methods. Of course it doesn't mean that we will find the killers right away, but unless we're lucky or they make a massive mistake that won't happen anyways, but as the days pass information accumulates and who knows.

edit: meaning-changing typos I had to correct

This post has been edited by Galayn Lord: 11 December 2009 - 06:29 AM

[Galayn Lord]

Rashan, on 11 December 2009 - 05:31 AM, said:

Also look at todays interaction between he and I.. it looks like he is trying to symp me. I brought it up in one post before the whole reveal. Kinda got lost.

I'm symping you? You hypocrite, you're the one going "Oh great GL guide me", "Oh I will try the great GL's case and vote like him" today, and other stuff that I hate.

I know that's not how you play, and it's purposeful. You might be a symp trying to shift attention on other people, and if you are your master is Eloth.

[Galayn Lord]

Sorry Korbas, but why are you quoting yourself? I missed it.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 18 hours and 27 minutes remain. In 2 hours and 27 minutes, 16 hours and 0 minutes will remain.

16 players still alive: Alkend, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Fener, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kalse, Karatallid, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Rashan, Shadow, Sorrit

9 votes are required to lynch.

1 Vote Liosan (Galayn Lord)
2 Votes Sorrit (Shadow, Korbas)
1 Vote Shadow (Kalse)
1 Vote Barghast (Karatallid)
1 Vote Korbas (Sorrit)
1 Vote Galayn Lord (Olar Ethil)

Players who have not voted: Alkend, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Fener, Hood's Path, Liosan, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Rashan

---

Very little surprised Bill anymore. Rumors were abound as to redacted's whereabouts, but nothing concrete. And even if they were true, what good would it do to investigate? She would just kill the messenger as a warning. That, Bill knew for a fact.

It was tough business for him. Surely her quest for vengeance would lead to his door. And he was OK with that, he needed to see her face again, to tell her how stupid he was, how he had overreacted.

But it was another matter entirely to survive that encounter. No doubt, even if she believed his remorse, she would exact vengeance all the same.

Sigh.

The loss of Budd was hard for him to take. Harder than hearing of O-Ren, by far. Surely more would follow...

Dong. Dong. Dong. Dong.

He glanced up at the grandfather clock's face, its hands slowly ticking toward some inevitable moment... or perhaps just idly toward the next minute.

The day was halfway over.

---

I'm heading to bed, all. See you in the morning. Play nice

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 11 December 2009 - 06:45 AM

[Korbas]

Galayn Lord, on 11 December 2009 - 06:39 AM, said:

Sorry Korbas, but why are you quoting yourself? I missed it.

Because people asked for the clues I dropped as to my implied identity.
Let me narrow it down a bit more. The Bride was shot while pregnant 4 years before she went on a killing spree.
What's the fattest bait you can dangle in front of a killer? The guy the fucking game is named after.

edit: inserted bait instead of clue

This post has been edited by Korbas: 11 December 2009 - 06:47 AM

[Korbas]

gotta leave for work - back in 45-60.

[Mockra]

Actually as I read that, I thought you were implying that you were the kid.


So...let me get this straight. You want the bride to think you're the best possible target she could hope for. So she would choose you as her kill target then, right? How the hell woudl that help you catch her?

[Eloth]

Back and around, will go read up what I've missed, but from what I read on this page it looks to be quite exciting.

[Liosan]

Back for a little bit, though quite busy.

Was there any particular reason you chose Karat as the other person to swap the action?

And Sorrit, you know of another power, but I am guessing from your phrasing it isn't yours, so that means you know of other characters? This suggests you have more information than most people.

[Korbas]

Mockra, on 11 December 2009 - 06:53 AM, said:

Actually as I read that, I thought you were implying that you were the kid.


So...let me get this straight.  You want the bride to think you're the best possible target she could hope for.  So she would choose you as her kill target then, right?  How the hell woudl that help you catch her?

Bill would be the best possible target.