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#901 User is offline   Shadow 

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 05:39 PM

Ahh yes Rashan, it is because you spoke up about me that I made the time at work to post more. That must be it.

Your house of cards is flimsy, and missing many support cards it needs. The problem is, I think you are an innocent and just confused.

I would be happy to vote off anyone except Kalse and Sorrit, as I said earlier. I am not going to vote for myself, obviously.

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 05:42 PM

Oh, by the way, I am pretty sure Kalse's vote counts twice, so it isn't as bad as you think it is, Rashan.

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 05:46 PM

View PostShadow, on 15 December 2009 - 05:42 PM, said:

Oh, by the way, I am pretty sure Kalse's vote counts twice, so it isn't as bad as you think it is, Rashan.


That would be huge.

Why do you think that?

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 05:51 PM

Day endedthe only people who posted who are still alive in those 4 hours, Me, liosan and fener. Who to everyone else are unknown.

Unless the kills on D'riss and Karathalid came from Kalse I submit that one of the kills came from either fener or liosan.

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 05:52 PM

View PostHood, on 15 December 2009 - 05:36 PM, said:

Well it not me.

So Me, Kalse and Sorrit.

Rashan seems reasonable so he seems inno.

Alkend, fener, shadow and liosan must be the scum.



I suppose this is possible... I have nothing more than gut to go on regarding alkend... but, his posting style and one post imparticular hinted at a possible role he had. Thats why I was thinking he was inno. I have been wrong many times before in this stupid game.

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 05:59 PM

View PostHood, on 15 December 2009 - 05:51 PM, said:

Day endedthe only people who posted who are still alive in those 4 hours, Me, liosan and fener. Who to everyone else are unknown.

Unless the kills on D'riss and Karathalid came from Kalse I submit that one of the kills came from either fener or liosan.



I would be willing to vote for either of those 2. Preferably Fener as I think Liosan is the assassin and If Kalse doesn't have 2 votes, as Shadow implies, we would need his vote.

bah.. I wish Kalse would come on.

Double bah!! with the quickness of the Kills and the dead dead weekend, there really isn't much to go on.

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 06:02 PM

View PostAlkend, on 09 December 2009 - 03:19 AM, said:

Well ive managed most of the work i had to do but now my computer is being an absolute bitch and taking about 10 minutes to load a page, if it even does it at all.
From what i have managed to gather Spite revealed himself as a viper and was killed by the Bride because of it which i guess is what PB was talking about with his mention of quoting/ fake quoting PMs. This makes me wonder if its just reveals which will get you killed or if its any type of PM quoting, so id definitely recommend caution when talking about anything PS might have told you. This might have been obvious to everyone but i feel it needed to be said.
I have to say i dont like Karats vote for Fener as i find myself agreeing with Fener that Spite revealing who he was was not a good town move and i probably would have voted for him myself. Other than that i dont really know who to go for as i havent had a chance to do an indepth read, with all this work and my computer playing up.



Looking back at alkend, this quote does kind of seem like Alkend is pushing the light away from Fener.

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 06:18 PM

Wow, the numbers are decreasing fast! :D

What jumps out at me from the last page or so was the way Hood's Path seemed fixated on there being a third player online right before the day ended abruptly. It was almost as if he was trying to bring up the possibility that someone had been lurking and triggered the abrupt end of day to try and raise the possibility that it wasn't him that did it. As a matter of fact, Hood's Path is probably my top suspect for the person who ended day yesterday. Also, this is just bizarre:

View PostHood, on 15 December 2009 - 05:36 PM, said:

Well it not me.

So Me, Kalse and Sorrit.

Rashan seems reasonable so he seems inno.

Alkend, fener, shadow and liosan must be the scum.


Rashan seems reasonable implies that the others must be scum? Doesn't really make sense at all.

Rashan has been bugging me a bit actually - at first I thought he seemed inno based on the nature of his contributions, but now I'm not quite so sure. I disagree with his WCS that the bride's faction currently has three members. Given that Korbas was recruitable into the Bride's faction (that's what he claimed, right?), I find it unlikely that in addition to that the Bride has two other helpers. IIRC, one of the characters someone brought up as a possible ally of the Bride back on Day 1 was mentioned in one of the early scenes (Hanzo?) so it seems more likely to me that the Bride has Hanzo supporting her in a two man faction to start, with the option of recruiting BB at some point. There's an element of fearmongering in his "We must lynch right today!" talk, though I guess if it turns out that it's not the last day today, then it's not the end of the world.

I'm going to go and read up on everyone and see if it turns up anything fresh.

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 06:33 PM

What advantage would I gain in ending day?

I wasn't up for a lynch, I know no one. There was no lynch possibility. I might have been hoping to shorten the list of suspects down or see how people react to such an event.

And there was a third player on. Karathalid would have confirmed it but he dead and I'm fucked in that regard but someone was lurking around then.

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 06:34 PM

View PostSorrit, on 15 December 2009 - 06:18 PM, said:

Wow, the numbers are decreasing fast! :D

What jumps out at me from the last page or so was the way Hood's Path seemed fixated on there being a third player online right before the day ended abruptly. It was almost as if he was trying to bring up the possibility that someone had been lurking and triggered the abrupt end of day to try and raise the possibility that it wasn't him that did it. As a matter of fact, Hood's Path is probably my top suspect for the person who ended day yesterday. Also, this is just bizarre:

View PostHood, on 15 December 2009 - 05:36 PM, said:

Well it not me.

So Me, Kalse and Sorrit.

Rashan seems reasonable so he seems inno.

Alkend, fener, shadow and liosan must be the scum.


Rashan seems reasonable implies that the others must be scum? Doesn't really make sense at all.

Rashan has been bugging me a bit actually - at first I thought he seemed inno based on the nature of his contributions, but now I'm not quite so sure. I disagree with his WCS that the bride's faction currently has three members. Given that Korbas was recruitable into the Bride's faction (that's what he claimed, right?), I find it unlikely that in addition to that the Bride has two other helpers. IIRC, one of the characters someone brought up as a possible ally of the Bride back on Day 1 was mentioned in one of the early scenes (Hanzo?) so it seems more likely to me that the Bride has Hanzo supporting her in a two man faction to start, with the option of recruiting BB at some point. There's an element of fearmongering in his "We must lynch right today!" talk, though I guess if it turns out that it's not the last day today, then it's not the end of the world.

I'm going to go and read up on everyone and see if it turns up anything fresh.



I hope you are right. If thats the case, we have a bit more leeway, but I always like to play WCS. I think thats usually the prudent thing to do. Are you really willing to risk the game if you are wrong? cause if you are wrong, it's game over. What you say does make sense tho. I completely forgot about the fact that Korbas was recruitable. So if bride only has one ally, and Kalse vote really does count for 2. Then we are fine.

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 06:46 PM

It is Day 6. 29 hours and 15 minutes remain.

8 players still alive: Alkend, Fener, Hood's Path, Kalse, Liosan, Rashan, Shadow, Sorrit

5 votes are required to lynch.

Players who have not voted: Alkend, Fener, Hood's Path, Kalse, Liosan, Rashan, Shadow, Sorrit


Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 15 December 2009 - 06:59 PM

OK, i have meetings for the next 4-5 hrs. I will try to pop back in ocassionally and I will have some time at meal time. As of now, I am inclined to vote Fener or shadow. Still waiting to hear what Kalse thinks, and to find out why shadow would think that Kalse has 2 votes.

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 07:34 PM

Back again briefly. I really need a better work ethic. I am afraid the projects are taking longer than expected so I may not be able to contribute much until tomorrow morning.

Just before I go though, I agree with Rashan that Shadow's assumption seems weird, especially as when Korbas was being lynched, he said he needed one extra vote for the lynch which meant one extra person had to vote, and Kalse was on that train, so that kind of disproves it.

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 08:41 PM

View PostLiosan, on 15 December 2009 - 07:34 PM, said:

Back again briefly. I really need a better work ethic. I am afraid the projects are taking longer than expected so I may not be able to contribute much until tomorrow morning.

Just before I go though, I agree with Rashan that Shadow's assumption seems weird, especially as when Korbas was being lynched, he said he needed one extra vote for the lynch which meant one extra person had to vote, and Kalse was on that train, so that kind of disproves it.


What an elucidating and needed post. Trying to skip through the whole day, without saying anything?

I will wait until Kalse logs, and hopefully confirms/denies the double-vote, before I tell you why I think that.

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 08:55 PM

So...I said I was leaving. And then lurked for 4 and a half hours before triggering an end of day kill, while viewing the thread, and then waited another four hours before coming back online? I would be fairly dedicated to set an alarm or something like that, tbh. True, it could have been a delayed effect, but that still seems weird. You can safely say I wasn't around to end day.

As for why I brought your lurking up, HP, it was because Korbas, one of the few players who we *know* for certain is fairly trustworthy, who gave us Kalse as a safe player, mentioned that they didn't like your lurking. No-one paid that any attention, and I was reading up, noticed that Korbas had suspicions of you. Hence, I mention you again, to make sure you get some attention. Don't worry, it wasn't out of the blue. :D

What's more intriguing that's just come up, however, is this:

View PostRashan, on 15 December 2009 - 06:02 PM, said:

View PostAlkend, on 09 December 2009 - 03:19 AM, said:

Well ive managed most of the work i had to do but now my computer is being an absolute bitch and taking about 10 minutes to load a page, if it even does it at all.
From what i have managed to gather Spite revealed himself as a viper and was killed by the Bride because of it which i guess is what PB was talking about with his mention of quoting/ fake quoting PMs. This makes me wonder if its just reveals which will get you killed or if its any type of PM quoting, so id definitely recommend caution when talking about anything PS might have told you. This might have been obvious to everyone but i feel it needed to be said.
I have to say i dont like Karats vote for Fener as i find myself agreeing with Fener that Spite revealing who he was was not a good town move and i probably would have voted for him myself. Other than that i dont really know who to go for as i havent had a chance to do an indepth read, with all this work and my computer playing up.



Looking back at alkend, this quote does kind of seem like Alkend is pushing the light away from Fener.


Granted, I had just shouted loudly about Spite's reveal. Alkend agrees with methat it was a stupid thing. But, this is Rashan nicely pushing the light onto me, and....

View PostRashan, on 15 December 2009 - 05:52 PM, said:

View PostHood, on 15 December 2009 - 05:36 PM, said:

Well it not me.

So Me, Kalse and Sorrit.

Rashan seems reasonable so he seems inno.

Alkend, fener, shadow and liosan must be the scum.



I suppose this is possible... I have nothing more than gut to go on regarding alkend... but, his posting style and one post imparticular hinted at a possible role he had. Thats why I was thinking he was inno. I have been wrong many times before in this stupid game.


Awwwwww, isn't that nice? Hood's Path calls you inno, so you lap up hwhat he's saying? Every innocent player here is operating on the assumption, I hope, that they and Kalse plus Sorritt are inno. Anyone can state that, and yet both you and HP seem to accept each other as inno? THAT is not WCS. THAT is not innocent thinking. That's the thinking of partners - mayhap you are partners on the inno team...but given the likely layout of today's sides, I would suggest more that you're Bride supporters who know each other...or perhaps one of you is even the Bride herself.

I also find Shadow's assumption of the two votes for Kalse strange, but whatever. I'm gonna go with my gut here, and place a vote...because I really don't like the blatant back-patting and comforting that is going on between these two, when the only two characters who should be remotely acting like they are together aren't gonna be innos.

Vote Hood's Path

Told you I'd be back in full force. Happy?

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 08:58 PM

Not quite back with THE THUNDAH!, but interesting none the less.

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 09:01 PM

To be fair, it was you who said I'd be back with THE THUNDAH!, I just said I'd be back playing properly. :D

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 09:03 PM

View PostHood, on 15 December 2009 - 06:33 PM, said:

What advantage would I gain in ending day?

I wasn't up for a lynch, I know no one. There was no lynch possibility. I might have been hoping to shorten the list of suspects down or see how people react to such an event.

And there was a third player on. Karathalid would have confirmed it but he dead and I'm fucked in that regard but someone was lurking around then.


There may very well have been a third player on, I have no idea. I had my browser open at work for a few minutes today, it could have been me for all I know. It's more the fact that you started talking about this third player very shortly before the day got ended. Normally, if there are more players showing at the bottom than there are players talking, it isn't really cause for comment. But you just happened to decide that this time it was, right before an event happened that is very likely dependent on the perpetrator being online at the time. Seems a little fishy to me, that's all I'm saying.

EDIT: XPo with THE THUNDAH!

This post has been edited by Sorrit: 15 December 2009 - 09:06 PM


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Posted 15 December 2009 - 09:04 PM

It is Day 6. 26 hours and 57 minutes remain.

8 players still alive: Alkend, Fener, Hood's Path, Kalse, Liosan, Rashan, Shadow, Sorrit

5 votes are required to lynch.

1 Vote Hood's Path (Fener)

Players who have not voted: Alkend, Hood's Path, Kalse, Liosan, Rashan, Shadow, Sorrit


This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 15 December 2009 - 09:04 PM

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 15 December 2009 - 10:02 PM

I was trying to figure out why Shadow reckons Kalse has two votes - I looked at both the trains but couldn't really see anything that would suggest it...

Status update: still trying to read back and get a proper read on everyone.

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