[Liosan]

I think the point is an FM usually has to prepare his victim first, so only every second day would there be a "kill". Hence, no kill first night.

[Sorrit]

The idea was that the FM was needed to prime a target first, as when something similar happened in the Masquerade game.

But now I think I've said enough about FMs for the time being. It's only a possibility, and I find myself talking about it as if it were fact, which is a Bad Thing.


EDIT: XPo (check out my hip abbreviation ) with Lio

This post has been edited by Sorrit: 09 December 2009 - 07:04 PM

[D'riss]

Galayn Lord, on 09 December 2009 - 06:58 PM, said:

About the FM, the lack of death last night does not imply FM activity as I've read in some post BTW, since a FM has to leave his old alt to enter the new one, we would still register it as a kill.

I think the whole discussion started due to the fac that a FM usually has to have a provisional in on an alt for a night before they can make the switch, which might explain why the assassin didn't kill tonight, as he's still charging up his power. I think a heal/guard/BP is a much more likely scenario.

Edit - double crosspostage

This post has been edited by D'riss: 09 December 2009 - 07:06 PM

[Rashan]

D, on 09 December 2009 - 07:05 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 09 December 2009 - 06:58 PM, said:

About the FM, the lack of death last night does not imply FM activity as I've read in some post BTW, since a FM has to leave his old alt to enter the new one, we would still register it as a kill.

I think the whole discussion started due to the fac that a FM usually has to have a provisional in on an alt for a night before they can make the switch, which might explain why the assassin didn't kill tonight, as he's still charging up his power. I think a heal/guard/BP is a much more likely scenario.

Edit - double crosspostage

Maybe, but I wouldn't totally dismiss the FM theory. It's def. something to watch for, if someone starts acting strange, or posting at completely different times.

[Galayn Lord]

If PB managed to include FM mechanics in a setting from the movies Kill Bill, my mind will be blownz

[D'riss]

Rashan, on 09 December 2009 - 07:14 PM, said:

D, on 09 December 2009 - 07:05 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 09 December 2009 - 06:58 PM, said:

About the FM, the lack of death last night does not imply FM activity as I've read in some post BTW, since a FM has to leave his old alt to enter the new one, we would still register it as a kill.

I think the whole discussion started due to the fac that a FM usually has to have a provisional in on an alt for a night before they can make the switch, which might explain why the assassin didn't kill tonight, as he's still charging up his power. I think a heal/guard/BP is a much more likely scenario.

Edit - double crosspostage

Maybe, but I wouldn't totally dismiss the FM theory. It's def. something to watch for, if someone starts acting strange, or posting at completely different times.

Not saying it's impossible, just less likely.

[Rashan]

So i went back over Barghast's posts and nothing really stood out. And actually he could have jumped on the Fener train, but Chose not too and instead voted GL. Not sure if this is Bride behavior. I would think th ebride would want to kill as many, as quickly as possible and his behavior doesn't really fit. Not as confident as I was about the vote.

Remove Vote

[Rashan]

i have to run, out for a while, back in a couple hours.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 18 hours and 9 minutes remain.

17 players still alive: Alkend, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Fener, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kalse, Karatallid, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Rashan, Shadow, Sorrit, Tellan

9 votes are required to lynch.

2 Votes Fener (Mockra, Eloth)
1 Vote Liosan (Galayn Lord)
1 Vote Sorrit (Shadow)
2 Votes Barghast (Tellan, Karatallid)

Not voted: Alkend, Barghast, D'riss, Fener, Hood's Path, Kalse, Korbas, Liosan, Olar Ethil, Rashan, Sorrit

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edit: Fixed the vote counts

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 09 December 2009 - 08:01 PM

[Fener]

Things are getting more serious I see. Though we have a clearly factionated voting spread atm, including a huge wad of non-voters.

Tbh, I'm getting really sick of Olar Ethil claiming stuff about what I've said when I clearly haven't. *I* claimed Elle? Read properly, man! And then the whole day one shit. However, despite that little mishap, Ethil does seem to be playing with more 'oomph' today, so whatever. Just try not to enrage me by strawmanning again...*grrrrrrrrrr*

Rashan's latest vote/unvote against Barghast is really interesting. Though it was nice of Bargy to not join in on the train against me, a smart Bride may have held off specifically because jumping on a train is scum behaviour.

All this talk of an FM is rubbish - there may/may not be one in here, we'll know tomorrow night, or if not then, never until the FM slips up. The lack of kills last night is easily explainable for the Bride, ofc, but the Assassin too may not have submitted a provisional in time - 0 hour nights, remember.

Anyway, reading over a bit...got a party today, but will slip on in spare time.

[Liosan]

Just remembered my problem with the FM from staying in alt suggestion. Surely the FM would take over the alt of the person who had died so if you stay in alt you end up with two people in the same alt this way?

[D'riss]

Liosan, on 09 December 2009 - 08:00 PM, said:

Just remembered my problem with the FM from staying in alt suggestion. Surely the FM would take over the alt of the person who had died so if you stay in alt you end up with two people in the same alt this way?

The original inhabitant would be given the password of the dead alt.

[Fener]

No, there is no problem.

Dead players have to stay in alt so that if the FM wants to impersonate a certain person's style the others cannot tell that player is dead. If the FM is killing someone they simply take over the alt and their *own* original alt dies. The taken over player then gets that alt's password and goes to spoiler heaven.

EDIT: Crosspost with D'riss. And why are we still discussing the FM?

This post has been edited by Fener: 09 December 2009 - 08:19 PM

[Kalse]

mornin everybody

theres no FM, dont be silly

[Liosan]

That seems very certain of you Kalse, you know something we don't?

[Kalse]

no im just calling you all silly

[Kalse]

i just dont think ol PB is crazy enough to put in an FM without telling us in a theme that has nothing that would even come close to indicating the possibility of an FM, unlike psychic vampires or whatever it was in masquerade. coupled that with how this is not a tmdi 9 or 10 and there is no FM.

[Mockra]

All of you going on about "Mockras plan this" and "Mockras plan that" are fucking thick.

The point is NOT the plan. The point is Fener's reaction to it. Rather than pointing out the obvious faults, (which you morons keep doing over and over) he reacts to it in a manner that suggests he knows more about the assassin and/or bride than us normal peons.

[Sorrit]

Mockra, on 09 December 2009 - 09:57 PM, said:

All of you going on about "Mockras plan this" and "Mockras plan that" are fucking thick.

The point is NOT the plan. The point is Fener's reaction to it. Rather than pointing out the obvious faults, (which you morons keep doing over and over) he reacts to it in a manner that suggests he knows more about the assassin and/or bride than us normal peons.

If it was something more than just a single line that frankly can be interpreted to mean pretty much anything you want, I'd agree with you. As is, you have made a reasonably big deal about the plan, whether or not you claim it is the point. (But then, I'm one to talk with my FMs...)

[Korbas]

Mockra, on 09 December 2009 - 09:57 PM, said:

All of you going on about "Mockras plan this" and "Mockras plan that" are fucking thick.

The point is NOT the plan. The point is Fener's reaction to it. Rather than pointing out the obvious faults, (which you morons keep doing over and over) he reacts to it in a manner that suggests he knows more about the assassin and/or bride than us normal peons.

I assume you mean the following post:

Fener, on 09 December 2009 - 06:56 AM, said:

And in the process giving the Assassin a free ride? What do we do about that? Plus revealing thusly will *also* light up the entire Viper faction for the Assassin and Bride to wipe out. AND the Bride can probably hide in the reveals too. Don't think that's gonna work, tbh.

The second line is absolute truth.
The bit about the Bride seems a logical conclusion too, she's not going to decapitate herself for fake revealing, I assume.
The one bit that is somewhat suspicious is 'giving the Assassin a free ride.'

I personally took that to mean:"this whole plan focuses on the Bride and her need to get the Vipers." but I could be wrong there.
I look forward to getting explained what I missed there, Mockra.