[Path-Shaper]

Spite, on 08 December 2009 - 10:03 PM, said:

just checking the post count, wow its been quiet today.

36 hour days, PS, 36 hour days!!!

Do you really think that some kind of valuable commentary will happen in the four hours that separate 32 hour days from 36 hour days?

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 08 December 2009 - 10:37 PM

[Tellan]

Spite, on 08 December 2009 - 10:27 PM, said:

I will tell you what tellan, if you can find my reasons for voting korbas, i will tell you my reasons for removing the vote.

You said you thought he was scum. The innos voting who they think is scum is quite a prominent feature in mafia. Yes, it is perhaps lacking in the details. On the other hand, you have now stated two reasons for removing your vote, and it is those reasons I have a problem with. Are you saying those weren't the true reasons?

[Spite]

Tellan, on 08 December 2009 - 10:28 PM, said:

Yes, it is a fairly obvious inno statement that you are removing a vote from someone you think is scum because you are worried about your own health. Typical inno laystyle that. All I ever see innos doing is avoiding attacking the people they think are scum because they don't want to be lynched.

Nice way to threaten me though. I know perfectly well what I am getting into. What I am getting into is an argument with a person I think is scum. Maybe for you attacking people you think is scum makes no sense, but in more general terms, it is not really some sort of radical play.

you really are an idiot.

let me spell it out for you in simplistic terms as to why there is no case by me against korbas.

we got into a pissing contest so i voted him and called him the bride.














How odd that i never pursued it. its so air tight. i mean where was my conviction, my dogged determination, my grit my drive to see the lynch! i tells you i lost my mojo. its not inno play i say! i must be relentless in the face of absurdity. i mean i was so certain what with no quotes or reasoning. I typed it though, so it must now be burned into the very fabric of my soul. KORBAS IS THE BRIDE!!!!



nah, i think i will keep my vote where it is. you still havent shown my reasoning, because there wasnt any. so i aint telling why i removed

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 6 hours, 44 minutes remain.

18 players still alive: Alkend, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Fener, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kalse, Karatallid, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Rashan, Shadow, Sorrit, Spite, Tellan

10 votes are required to lynch.

1 Vote Fener (Olar Ethil)
1 Vote Galayn Lord (Rashan)
1 Vote Tellan (Spite)
1 Vote Rashan (Galayn Lord)
1 Vote Korbas (Liosan)
1 Vote Eloth (Sorrit)
1 Vote Spite (Tellan)

Not voted: Alkend, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Fener, Hood's Path, Kalse, Karatallid, Korbas, Mockra, Shadow

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[Kalse]

Tellan, on 08 December 2009 - 10:29 PM, said:

Spite, on 08 December 2009 - 10:28 PM, said:

Tellan, on 08 December 2009 - 10:25 PM, said:

Neither of which makes any sense as an inno.

you know for this statement alone i would see you lynched. Its about the tenth time you have spouted this horseshit and it just keeps getting riper.

You're saying it makes sense for an innocent not to attack the person they think is scum, because they don't want to get into an argument, and risk getting lynched? I'm sorry, but that really does not make sense.

this.

while its one thing to remove a vote to avoid escalating something purpselessly, if you really think theyre scum then you shouldnt because lynching them is how you win. if spite really believes what hes saying then hes just not much of a team player and id rather lynch an inno whos more concerned about themselves than a solid teamplayer

Vote Spite

[Spite]

Tellan, on 08 December 2009 - 10:33 PM, said:

Spite, on 08 December 2009 - 10:27 PM, said:

I will tell you what tellan, if you can find my reasons for voting korbas, i will tell you my reasons for removing the vote.

You said you thought he was scum. The innos voting who they think is scum is quite a prominent feature in mafia. Yes, it is perhaps lacking in the details. On the other hand, you have now stated two reasons for removing your vote, and it is those reasons I have a problem with. Are you saying those weren't the true reasons?

and on day 1 in a pissing contest you dont exagerate? or spout shit either. i mean this is all gold plated truth spouting from you.

if i call you the assassin does it make it true? seriously grow up. even if i did suspect korbas of being the bride, i dont anymore, and the fact that you are pursuing me because you think i should still believe it, while fishing for reasons why i dont think korbas is scum shows you are worried you missed something and expect me to say it on thread for you.

[Tellan]

Regardless of the reasons for voting korbas, your reasons for removing are ridiculous.

You don't need to state any reasons why you removed. You already had.

Nice way to avoid someone picking holes in your reasoning though-simply not tell them.

Oh, and you have consistently said I have been strawmanning. I don't need ot change any arguments. You own words speak, quite obviously, for themselves.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 6 hours, 42 minutes remain.

18 players still alive: Alkend, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Fener, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kalse, Karatallid, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Rashan, Shadow, Sorrit, Spite, Tellan

10 votes are required to lynch.

1 Vote Fener (Olar Ethil)
1 Vote Galayn Lord (Rashan)
1 Vote Tellan (Spite)
1 Vote Rashan (Galayn Lord)
1 Vote Korbas (Liosan)
1 Vote Eloth (Sorrit)
2 Votes Spite (Tellan, Kalse)

Not voted: Alkend, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Fener, Hood's Path, Karatallid, Korbas, Mockra, Shadow

---

[Spite]

Kalse, on 08 December 2009 - 10:37 PM, said:

Tellan, on 08 December 2009 - 10:29 PM, said:

Spite, on 08 December 2009 - 10:28 PM, said:

Tellan, on 08 December 2009 - 10:25 PM, said:

Neither of which makes any sense as an inno.

you know for this statement alone i would see you lynched. Its about the tenth time you have spouted this horseshit and it just keeps getting riper.

You're saying it makes sense for an innocent not to attack the person they think is scum, because they don't want to get into an argument, and risk getting lynched? I'm sorry, but that really does not make sense.

this.

while its one thing to remove a vote to avoid escalating something purpselessly, if you really think theyre scum then you shouldnt because lynching them is how you win. if spite really believes what hes saying then hes just not much of a team player and id rather lynch an inno whos more concerned about themselves than a solid teamplayer

Vote Spite

oh really now, this is frankly stupid. I havent once said i think korbas is scum since i removed my vote and just because tellan repeats bullshit you buy in?

[Korbas]

Tellan seems rather driven to get a lynch tonight - any other game, I would have shared the sentiment, but this time around, we have 5 people we shouldn't want to lynch as we are doing the opposing team/solist a huge favor. That is enough to give me pause.

Are you not concerned about potentially lynching a Viper, Tellan?

In other news, seems Spite got a pissing contest that is going suck up all attention and split the thread after all

edit: adding Enters.

This post has been edited by Korbas: 08 December 2009 - 10:40 PM

[Spite]

Tellan, on 08 December 2009 - 10:38 PM, said:

Regardless of the reasons for voting korbas, your reasons for removing are ridiculous.

You don't need to state any reasons why you removed. You already had.

Nice way to avoid someone picking holes in your reasoning though-simply not tell them.

Oh, and you have consistently said I have been strawmanning. I don't need ot change any arguments. You own words speak, quite obviously, for themselves.

you know what tellan your such a fucking genius.

I am oren ishii. i am one of the deadly vipers. and your stupid fucking crap over and over when i love revealing and can feel a speed lynch building mean i am going to reveal on day 1. You see now why i pulled out of the pissing contest you stupid little prick?

[Sorrit]

I have to say, Spite's arguments are appalling. He ranges from insulting, to dismissive, to confused and back again, rarely (if ever) making a coherent point. For someone who doesn't want to get into a pissing contest, he is doing an incredibly bad job. You don't avoid a heated argument by rushing in with bad grammar and spewing what ever comes into your mouth on thread, because that's going to provoke a response in kind and the whole thing will snowball. His behaviour is pretty damn contradictory and I don't understand what he's trying to achieve at all.

If he's going by the creed of "Shout loudest to win the argument", then that implies he feels he has to win this. But why? Nothing good can come of it that I can see, certainly nothing that couldn't have been gained by using his indoor voice.


EDIT: Crosspost with something major.

This post has been edited by Sorrit: 08 December 2009 - 10:42 PM

[Tellan]

Spite, on 08 December 2009 - 10:37 PM, said:

Tellan, on 08 December 2009 - 10:33 PM, said:

Spite, on 08 December 2009 - 10:27 PM, said:

I will tell you what tellan, if you can find my reasons for voting korbas, i will tell you my reasons for removing the vote.

You said you thought he was scum. The innos voting who they think is scum is quite a prominent feature in mafia. Yes, it is perhaps lacking in the details. On the other hand, you have now stated two reasons for removing your vote, and it is those reasons I have a problem with. Are you saying those weren't the true reasons?

and on day 1 in a pissing contest you dont exagerate? or spout shit either. i mean this is all gold plated truth spouting from you.

if i call you the assassin does it make it true? seriously grow up. even if i did suspect korbas of being the bride, i dont anymore, and the fact that you are pursuing me because you think i should still believe it, while fishing for reasons why i dont think korbas is scum shows you are worried you missed something and expect me to say it on thread for you.

So, instead of stating on thread you were removing because you didn't suspect him anymore, you stated you did it because you didn't want to get into a contest that could get you lynched? Why not tell the truth? Why come up with a different reason for removing which makes no sense from an innocent POV.

The only perspective that removing a vote to avoid a pissing contest, the attention it brings, and the risk of lynch, and removing a vote because no one is following it, make sense from is the perspective of someone trying to lay low.

[Spite]

Tellan, on 08 December 2009 - 10:41 PM, said:

Spite, on 08 December 2009 - 10:37 PM, said:

Tellan, on 08 December 2009 - 10:33 PM, said:

Spite, on 08 December 2009 - 10:27 PM, said:

I will tell you what tellan, if you can find my reasons for voting korbas, i will tell you my reasons for removing the vote.

You said you thought he was scum. The innos voting who they think is scum is quite a prominent feature in mafia. Yes, it is perhaps lacking in the details. On the other hand, you have now stated two reasons for removing your vote, and it is those reasons I have a problem with. Are you saying those weren't the true reasons?

and on day 1 in a pissing contest you dont exagerate? or spout shit either. i mean this is all gold plated truth spouting from you.

if i call you the assassin does it make it true? seriously grow up. even if i did suspect korbas of being the bride, i dont anymore, and the fact that you are pursuing me because you think i should still believe it, while fishing for reasons why i dont think korbas is scum shows you are worried you missed something and expect me to say it on thread for you.

So, instead of stating on thread you were removing because you didn't suspect him anymore, you stated you did it because you didn't want to get into a contest that could get you lynched? Why not tell the truth? Why come up with a different reason for removing which makes no sense from an innocent POV.

The only perspective that removing a vote to avoid a pissing contest, the attention it brings, and the risk of lynch, and removing a vote because no one is following it, make sense from is the perspective of someone trying to lay low.

no shit, trying to stay low... well done tellan we are

[Spite]

Sorrit, on 08 December 2009 - 10:41 PM, said:

I have to say, Spite's arguments are appalling. He ranges from insulting, to dismissive, to confused and back again, rarely (if ever) making a coherent point. For someone who doesn't want to get into a pissing contest, he is doing an incredibly bad job. You don't avoid a heated argument by rushing in with bad grammar and spewing what ever comes into your mouth on thread, because that's going to provoke a response in kind and the whole thing will snowball. His behaviour is pretty damn contradictory and I don't understand what he's trying to achieve at all.

If he's going by the creed of "Shout loudest to win the argument", then that implies he feels he has to win this. But why? Nothing good can come of it that I can see, certainly nothing that couldn't have been gained by using his indoor voice.


EDIT: Crosspost with something major.

my arguments are appaling because they are truth.

[Spite]

and with that i am going to bed, my vote stays.

[Sorrit]

Spite, on 08 December 2009 - 10:41 PM, said:

Tellan, on 08 December 2009 - 10:38 PM, said:

Regardless of the reasons for voting korbas, your reasons for removing are ridiculous.

You don't need to state any reasons why you removed. You already had.

Nice way to avoid someone picking holes in your reasoning though-simply not tell them.

Oh, and you have consistently said I have been strawmanning. I don't need ot change any arguments. You own words speak, quite obviously, for themselves.

you know what tellan your such a fucking genius.

I am oren ishii. i am one of the deadly vipers. and your stupid fucking crap over and over when i love revealing and can feel a speed lynch building mean i am going to reveal on day 1. You see now why i pulled out of the pissing contest you stupid little prick?

Yet another implosion.

[Tellan]

Korbas, on 08 December 2009 - 10:39 PM, said:

Tellan seems rather driven to get a lynch tonight - any other game, I would have shared the sentiment, but this time around, we have 5 people we shouldn't want to lynch as we are doing the opposing team/solist a huge favor. That is enough to give me pause.

Are you not concerned about potentially lynching a Viper, Tellan?

In other news, seems Spite got a pissing contest that is going suck up all attention and split the thread after all

edit: adding Enters.

Of course i'm worried about lynching a viper. However, what would you advise we do? Mafia revolves around small, powerful in NA actions team, against a larger, weaker in NA team. We can't win by night. The town wins by lynching the scum, it's not like we've got a choice, we have to look for scum.

[Spite]

Sorrit, on 08 December 2009 - 10:47 PM, said:

Yet another implosion.

better than being speed lynch when i go to bed with bullshit arguments by a symp with a hard on for the inno playbook

[Spite]

Tellan, on 08 December 2009 - 10:49 PM, said:

Korbas, on 08 December 2009 - 10:39 PM, said:

Tellan seems rather driven to get a lynch tonight - any other game, I would have shared the sentiment, but this time around, we have 5 people we shouldn't want to lynch as we are doing the opposing team/solist a huge favor. That is enough to give me pause.

Are you not concerned about potentially lynching a Viper, Tellan?

In other news, seems Spite got a pissing contest that is going suck up all attention and split the thread after all

edit: adding Enters.

Of course i'm worried about lynching a viper. However, what would you advise we do? Mafia revolves around small, powerful in NA actions team, against a larger, weaker in NA team. We can't win by night. The town wins by lynching the scum, it's not like we've got a choice, we have to look for scum.

try voting for yourself next time symp