[Omtose]

I never said you SAID i was town.

But your asking me to reveal shows me that you might think i am roled town.

[Eloth]

Omtose, on 26 October 2009 - 01:06 PM, said:

I never said you SAID i was town.

But your asking me to reveal shows me that you might think i am roled town.

Aye, and I am hesitant in that because the werewolves could then try and recruit you. I do not know if they have recruited before, so they may be a far bigger threat than we assume. However, if you are the Swan dude, lynching you is another freebie for the coven. If you are not the Swan guy, I'd probably keep silent were I in your shoes.

[Serc]

Ok sorry if i wont be on much today im a bit swamped with work. Right now Eloths arguments are just flat out weird in a few cases so im not sure if he's a confused inno or he's just trying to jump on anything .
Im not totally convinced by the Omtose thing as i dont really see how he's been trying to stay below the radar at all, though i can see how his defence could have been an overreaction, but right now ELoth is just seeming a lot more dodgy to me and is getting more so the more he speaks.

[Omtose]

Ok...

It seems you guys are not going to belive me no matter what.
You are convicting me for making a weak day one case against the person who voted for myslef.

I felt it was logically sound...others think it was some kind of desperate defense because i shat myself after receiving 2 votes based on my one post.


watever...im not too bothered.
Since i have to now move offices i am probably going to get told to leave my desk any minute now so i really cant go on arguing with you people
Ill reveal then you can go ahead and lynch me...

But just remember...Olar is most likely a Cullen and i believe Eloth self preservation makes him more than likely not Town.
also there have been a few sheo votes on myself, using my "over reaction" as an excuse to voet me off im sure there is allot of info if you go and look at my train.

Im Felicity the Bisexual Zombie
I kid you not...thats my name...and i am the towns resident zombie.
PS tells me that there is no zombie in the book but if the author can bastardise vampires then he can bastardise the setting or some such.

Me being a Bisexual zombie i hang out at bar every night lookng for some poon.
If i get seduced and bitten by either a Wolf or vamp they become wounded as my flesh is poison to them.
I have been trying to draw the Night actions as a result of this. so my play has been slightly off because of this i suppose.

Anyways im pretty useless now that ive revealed...

[Hood's Path]

Hello people, I see a bit has already happened today.

Omtose, while he has given me a headache with his quadruple postings, has put up a valiant defense. Of course.

Eloth's arguments were odd. I don't know why he made up his scenario about Galain being a doctor and finding out Omtose's species on Day 1, as Galain was Edward, not Carlisle (), and his pushing for a reveal was a little weird. Scummy? Maybe. He does back off though, if Omtose was Charlie Swan (which he ain't, obviously - you can't make that shit up ), so we know he isn't Coven. If he's a confused inno, I think he needs to stay off the funky Kool-Aid.

[Silanah]

Wtf Eloth, did you just manipulate Omtose into revealing? You can't be town.

vote Eloth

That's right, I don't need more than that to vote for him. You fucking don't manipulate people to reveal unless you're sure they're your enemy.

[Ruse]

Eloth, on 26 October 2009 - 12:51 PM, said:

Yes, I know for a fact there is a doctor. Yes, I strongly believe she is town. No, she is not me.

No, I don't want you to become wounded on purpose. However, should it happen, there is one who can then confirm whether or not you are human. That is all I have been saying.

Not asking for a reveal. If you CF as Hillbilly 90210, you shouldn't. If you are that important to town that you should live, if you judge you are instrumental to a town victory, consider it.

This agrument isn't a town argument. I see no basis for it at all. To me it looks like you are trying to get the doctor to also reveal which would go against the towns interest. That is like asking a finder to reveal in order to save someone not a vig. In a game were people can be recruited I do not want the doctor to reveal unless their life is on the chopping block.


Vote Eloth

[Emurlahn]

I did think Olar could be the other cullen but he could be another faction member trying to act as such as an attempt to throw people off him, we are going the cullens aren't a threat they lost two of their guys. If that the case the true Cullen wouldn't be so obvious hoping that later in the game he might improve his side situation.

If Olar isn't cullen, then what is he?

Town, Werewolves, and evil vampires benefit from destruction of cullens, so I don't think he is one of them.

Coven have killed all the cullens they need to kill, so if Olar is coven he may try to appear as the last cullen in a play to delay the other teams make them waste kills.

Remove Vote
Vote Olar Ethil

[Hood's Path]

Omtose, I would hardly say you're useless. It's just no one is going to try to recruit or kill you. Well, unless a werewolf is starved for targets, anyway. They're the only ones who need to go after unimportant Town.

[Hood's Path]

Emurlahn, on 26 October 2009 - 01:53 PM, said:

I did think Olar could be the other cullen but he could be another faction member trying to act as such as an attempt to throw people off him, we are going the cullens aren't a threat they lost two of their guys. If that the case the true Cullen wouldn't be so obvious hoping that later in the game he might improve his side situation.

If Olar isn't cullen, then what is he?

Town, Werewolves, and evil vampires benefit from destruction of cullens, so I don't think he is one of them.

Coven have killed all the cullens they need to kill, so if Olar is coven he may try to appear as the last cullen in a play to delay the other teams make them waste kills.

Remove Vote
Vote Olar Ethil

Yet to pull that off he would have had to have known who Galain and Barghast were on Day 1, as what people have taken to be Galain-sympish behaviour started all the way back then. He did that before we knew who anyone was, so it can't be a cunning plan, unless the Coven knew who people were from the get go, which seems a little far-fetched.

[Silanah]

Hood, on 26 October 2009 - 02:03 PM, said:

Yet to pull that off he would have had to have known who Galain and Barghast were on Day 1, as what people have taken to be Galain-sympish behaviour started all the way back then. He did that before we knew who anyone was, so it can't be a cunning plan, unless the Coven knew who people were from the get go, which seems a little far-fetched.

Actually it's not that far fetched that the Cullens all know of each other. I am not ready to assume they do, but it's a possibility worth considering.

Edit: never mind, I misread your post. I was thinking that the Cullens might know of each other when I read your post. Brain fart.

This post has been edited by Silanah: 26 October 2009 - 02:07 PM

[Emurlahn]

Didn't Olar came on after Barghast was lynched, really hitting at everyone following Omtose as if his word came from god itself?

[Eloth]

Ruse, on 26 October 2009 - 01:52 PM, said:

Eloth, on 26 October 2009 - 12:51 PM, said:

Yes, I know for a fact there is a doctor. Yes, I strongly believe she is town. No, she is not me.

No, I don't want you to become wounded on purpose. However, should it happen, there is one who can then confirm whether or not you are human. That is all I have been saying.

Not asking for a reveal. If you CF as Hillbilly 90210, you shouldn't. If you are that important to town that you should live, if you judge you are instrumental to a town victory, consider it.

This agrument isn't a town argument. I see no basis for it at all. To me it looks like you are trying to get the doctor to also reveal which would go against the towns interest. That is like asking a finder to reveal in order to save someone not a vig. In a game were people can be recruited I do not want the doctor to reveal unless their life is on the chopping block.


Vote Eloth

I definately do not want the doctor to reveal. What I meant was this: if the doctor learns the species, she can decide to not vote for that person. I would follow her example, for one - so could any others who know who she is. That is what I meant, not asking for a reveal.

If I was scum, I would kill the doctor rather than letting her live - if people can't heal apart from not taking actions, that would make scum's chance to be discovered a whole lot easier, wouldn't it?

[Emurlahn]

If the Cullens know each other why symp each other in the first place, ok Barghast is a new player, but Olar and Galain if they knew each other wouldn't need to obviosly symp each other.

[Eloth]

Hood, on 26 October 2009 - 01:40 PM, said:

Hello people, I see a bit has already happened today.

Omtose, while he has given me a headache with his quadruple postings, has put up a valiant defense. Of course.

Eloth's arguments were odd. I don't know why he made up his scenario about Galain being a doctor and finding out Omtose's species on Day 1, as Galain was Edward, not Carlisle (), and his pushing for a reveal was a little weird. Scummy? Maybe. He does back off though, if Omtose was Charlie Swan (which he ain't, obviously - you can't make that shit up ), so we know he isn't Coven. If he's a confused inno, I think he needs to stay off the funky Kool-Aid.

Damn, that's what I get for not reading back when I type.

[Eloth]

Omtose, on 26 October 2009 - 01:24 PM, said:

Ok...

It seems you guys are not going to belive me no matter what.
You are convicting me for making a weak day one case against the person who voted for myslef.

I felt it was logically sound...others think it was some kind of desperate defense because i shat myself after receiving 2 votes based on my one post.


watever...im not too bothered.
Since i have to now move offices i am probably going to get told to leave my desk any minute now so i really cant go on arguing with you people
Ill reveal then you can go ahead and lynch me...

But just remember...Olar is most likely a Cullen and i believe Eloth self preservation makes him more than likely not Town.
also there have been a few sheo votes on myself, using my "over reaction" as an excuse to voet me off im sure there is allot of info if you go and look at my train.

Im Felicity the Bisexual Zombie
I kid you not...thats my name...and i am the towns resident zombie.
PS tells me that there is no zombie in the book but if the author can bastardise vampires then he can bastardise the setting or some such.

Me being a Bisexual zombie i hang out at bar every night lookng for some poon.
If i get seduced and bitten by either a Wolf or vamp they become wounded as my flesh is poison to them.
I have been trying to draw the Night actions as a result of this. so my play has been slightly off because of this i suppose.

Anyways im pretty useless now that ive revealed...

I actually believe you.

Remove vote.

[Emurlahn]

Which means that your voting actions give away who you suspect the doctor is? And about you being scum, you could be a scum finder, guard or something else apart from killer and this is an attempt by you to signal to your killer on a possible target.

[Silanah]

Eloth, on 26 October 2009 - 02:08 PM, said:

I definately do not want the doctor to reveal. What I meant was this: if the doctor learns the species, she can decide to not vote for that person. I would follow her example, for one - so could any others who know who she is. That is what I meant, not asking for a reveal.

If I was scum, I would kill the doctor rather than letting her live - if people can't heal apart from not taking actions, that would make scum's chance to be discovered a whole lot easier, wouldn't it?

If you do know of the doctor. I think you are lying about that in the purpose of lending credence to your other little operations on thread.

Emurlahn, on 26 October 2009 - 02:08 PM, said:

If the Cullens know each other why symp each other in the first place, ok Barghast is a new player, but Olar and Galain if they knew each other wouldn't need to obviosly symp each other.

Yeah good point.

[Eloth]

Emurlahn, on 26 October 2009 - 02:11 PM, said:

Which means that your voting actions give away who you suspect the doctor is? And about you being scum, you could be a scum finder, guard or something else apart from killer and this is an attempt by you to signal to your killer on a possible target.

Depends on how circumspect I am, now doesn't it?

[Ruse]

Eloth, on 26 October 2009 - 02:08 PM, said:

Ruse, on 26 October 2009 - 01:52 PM, said:

Eloth, on 26 October 2009 - 12:51 PM, said:

Yes, I know for a fact there is a doctor. Yes, I strongly believe she is town. No, she is not me.

No, I don't want you to become wounded on purpose. However, should it happen, there is one who can then confirm whether or not you are human. That is all I have been saying.

Not asking for a reveal. If you CF as Hillbilly 90210, you shouldn't. If you are that important to town that you should live, if you judge you are instrumental to a town victory, consider it.

This agrument isn't a town argument. I see no basis for it at all. To me it looks like you are trying to get the doctor to also reveal which would go against the towns interest. That is like asking a finder to reveal in order to save someone not a vig. In a game were people can be recruited I do not want the doctor to reveal unless their life is on the chopping block.


Vote Eloth

I definately do not want the doctor to reveal. What I meant was this: if the doctor learns the species, she can decide to not vote for that person. I would follow her example, for one - so could any others who know who she is. That is what I meant, not asking for a reveal.

If I was scum, I would kill the doctor rather than letting her live - if people can't heal apart from not taking actions, that would make scum's chance to be discovered a whole lot easier, wouldn't it?

I order for you to follow the doctor in voting you would have to know who the doctor was. The only way to know that is for the doctor to reveal. Otherwise when you follow someones vote then scum will pickup on it and kill them at night. You have implied that you have knowledge of who the doctor is at least twice and since you have already forced Omtose to reveal it seems to me that you are trying to get the doctor to reveal. None of that is the play that a towny would make.