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Mafia 53: Twilight | Game Thread Vampires and Werewolves and Zombies, oh my!

#601 User is offline   Silanah 

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:13 PM

View PostEloth, on 26 October 2009 - 02:11 PM, said:

I actually believe you.

Remove vote.

Omg! And the next Oscar goes too...

NOT!

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:16 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on 26 October 2009 - 02:08 PM, said:

If the Cullens know each other why symp each other in the first place, ok Barghast is a new player, but Olar and Galain if they knew each other wouldn't need to obviosly symp each other.


The same can be said about most everyone in this game. Barghast was a noob and came off super obvious. Olar like others probably doesn't like our history of knocking noobs out right away. Attacking someone because they might not obviously be symping someone is moronic at best.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:17 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on 26 October 2009 - 02:07 PM, said:

Didn't Olar came on after Barghast was lynched, really hitting at everyone following Omtose as if his word came from god itself?

He went after Omtose, Telas and Eloth, IIRC. And yes, there was the whole 'I wish I had multiple vigs to use on you stupid fucks' etc lol, which is where I understand your reasoning for the vote. However, how does that equate to a master plan to hide behind the Cullen banner so he won't be suspected as Coven? IIRC, his aneurysm came from everyone parroting Omtose's arguments and being called a symp. He'd be toeing a fine line to be vehemently declaiming his connection to the Cullens yet secretly wanting to be one. It would be far too easy for another faction to off him thinking he was Cullen. Sorry, I just don't buy it.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:17 PM

View PostSilanah, on 26 October 2009 - 02:12 PM, said:

View PostEloth, on 26 October 2009 - 02:08 PM, said:

I definately do not want the doctor to reveal. What I meant was this: if the doctor learns the species, she can decide to not vote for that person. I would follow her example, for one - so could any others who know who she is. That is what I meant, not asking for a reveal.

If I was scum, I would kill the doctor rather than letting her live - if people can't heal apart from not taking actions, that would make scum's chance to be discovered a whole lot easier, wouldn't it?

If you do know of the doctor. I think you are lying about that in the purpose of lending credence to your other little operations on thread.

View PostEmurlahn, on 26 October 2009 - 02:08 PM, said:

If the Cullens know each other why symp each other in the first place, ok Barghast is a new player, but Olar and Galain if they knew each other wouldn't need to obviosly symp each other.

Yeah good point.

Think what you like. I put my cards on the table, short of a reveal. I can also say that I do not know the doctor from my role, but from observant play. You can vote me for all you want, I'm not going to reveal her, either.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:19 PM

View PostEloth, on 26 October 2009 - 02:17 PM, said:

Think what you like. I put my cards on the table, short of a reveal. I can also say that I do not know the doctor from my role, but from observant play. You can vote me for all you want, I'm not going to reveal her, either.

Yeah you just want everyone not on your team reveal, I'm not surprised. So now you do not know who the doctor is? Make up your mind mate.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:20 PM

Question: there are lover relationships in this game, are there not?

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:20 PM

View PostSilanah, on 26 October 2009 - 02:13 PM, said:

View PostEloth, on 26 October 2009 - 02:11 PM, said:

I actually believe you.

Remove vote.

Omg! And the next Oscar goes too...

NOT!

It makes sense for town to have a role like this. Killers probably can't kill while wounded. To heal, they have to see a doctor. Doctors act as finders. Ergo, either scum is slowed, or scum becomes known. It makes fucking sense to me, but since you are convinced, go ahead and ignore what is in your face.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:23 PM

View PostSilanah, on 26 October 2009 - 02:19 PM, said:

View PostEloth, on 26 October 2009 - 02:17 PM, said:

Think what you like. I put my cards on the table, short of a reveal. I can also say that I do not know the doctor from my role, but from observant play. You can vote me for all you want, I'm not going to reveal her, either.

Yeah you just want everyone not on your team reveal, I'm not surprised. So now you do not know who the doctor is? Make up your mind mate.

I do know who the doctor is, you dolt. Learn to read.
I do not know her from my PM.
I do know her from what I read on thread.
Hence, I am 100% sure she wants to be seen as a doctor. If not, I am being played and I take my hat of to her for coding a wrong role deliberately.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:23 PM

View PostEloth, on 26 October 2009 - 02:20 PM, said:

View PostSilanah, on 26 October 2009 - 02:13 PM, said:

View PostEloth, on 26 October 2009 - 02:11 PM, said:

I actually believe you.

Remove vote.

Omg! And the next Oscar goes too...

NOT!

It makes sense for town to have a role like this. Killers probably can't kill while wounded. To heal, they have to see a doctor. Doctors act as finders. Ergo, either scum is slowed, or scum becomes known. It makes fucking sense to me, but since you are convinced, go ahead and ignore what is in your face.

I do agree with this, Sil. It does make sense - town need a role that allows them to wound non-humans, otherwise it would be quite unbalanced.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:23 PM

View PostHood, on 26 October 2009 - 02:20 PM, said:

Question: there are lover relationships in this game, are there not?

yeah, and they can be formed in the bar, too.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:27 PM

is there any reason you are using "her" when describing the doctor other than you are trying to get them killed? Seriously, eloth. Its bad enough you pressed omtose into what is quite frankly the most bizarre reveal ever, but now you are trying to point out the doctor on thread by saying someone has coded it and using meta to narrow down the possibilities. If you are town you are doing a remarkably bad job.

remove vote

vote eloth


I am willing to bet that omtose will be investigated at some point now that they have revealed, but eloth you have been acting very strange today. You fabricated a massive story about omtose that has no basis on thread and explain it away by saying you are suspicious of them and have been since day one. Now you are trying to reveal the doctor on thread.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:30 PM

Were I to confirm or deny the meta, I'd narrow down the choice. It is said deliberately because I figured it wouldn't do much harm, as it can refer to people, (dragon) alts, avatar pictures, whatever you like. The doctor will know, though.
Would be a pity if that got me hanged :)

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:32 PM

View PostD, on 26 October 2009 - 02:27 PM, said:

is there any reason you are using "her" when describing the doctor other than you are trying to get them killed? Seriously, eloth. Its bad enough you pressed omtose into what is quite frankly the most bizarre reveal ever, but now you are trying to point out the doctor on thread by saying someone has coded it and using meta to narrow down the possibilities. If you are town you are doing a remarkably bad job.

remove vote

vote eloth


I am willing to bet that omtose will be investigated at some point now that they have revealed, but eloth you have been acting very strange today. You fabricated a massive story about omtose that has no basis on thread and explain it away by saying you are suspicious of them and have been since day one. Now you are trying to reveal the doctor on thread.

I was just about to ask if there is anything important about the 'she' pronoun. Interesting. Are any of the female characters medically minded? I don't know. As to using meta, how would he know who the person behind the alt is, other than guessing the identity? I don't think it's that.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:33 PM

View PostOmtose, on 26 October 2009 - 01:24 PM, said:

Ok...

It seems you guys are not going to belive me no matter what.
You are convicting me for making a weak day one case against the person who voted for myslef.

I felt it was logically sound...others think it was some kind of desperate defense because i shat myself after receiving 2 votes based on my one post.


watever...im not too bothered.
Since i have to now move offices i am probably going to get told to leave my desk any minute now so i really cant go on arguing with you people
Ill reveal then you can go ahead and lynch me...

But just remember...Olar is most likely a Cullen and i believe Eloth self preservation makes him more than likely not Town.
also there have been a few sheo votes on myself, using my "over reaction" as an excuse to voet me off im sure there is allot of info if you go and look at my train.

Im Felicity the Bisexual Zombie :)
I kid you not...thats my name...and i am the towns resident zombie.
PS tells me that there is no zombie in the book but if the author can bastardise vampires then he can bastardise the setting or some such.

Me being a Bisexual zombie i hang out at bar every night lookng for some poon.
If i get seduced and bitten by either a Wolf or vamp they become wounded as my flesh is poison to them.
I have been trying to draw the Night actions as a result of this. so my play has been slightly off because of this i suppose.

Anyways im pretty useless now that ive revealed...


The thing for me that adds credence to this is the title of the thread says werewolves, vampires and zombies. You could have got away with not revealing by simply implying no role and wanting to draw night actions. The wifom of statements like that invariably do draw night actions, but thats irrelevant now. I hope someone out there has the good grace to investigate your claim, but there is no reason to continue to vote for you as things stand.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:33 PM

View PostD, on 26 October 2009 - 02:27 PM, said:

I am willing to bet that omtose will be investigated at some point now that they have revealed, but eloth you have been acting very strange today. You fabricated a massive story about omtose that has no basis on thread and explain it away by saying you are suspicious of them and have been since day one. Now you are trying to reveal the doctor on thread.

I'm willing to admit my play has been less than stellar, yes. And yes, I was pretty sure, up until the reveal, that Omtose was scum. The reveal convinced me, however. I do also know that due to the reveal, the attention switches to me due to what I say/did. So be it... the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:34 PM

View PostHood, on 26 October 2009 - 02:23 PM, said:

View PostEloth, on 26 October 2009 - 02:20 PM, said:

View PostSilanah, on 26 October 2009 - 02:13 PM, said:

View PostEloth, on 26 October 2009 - 02:11 PM, said:

I actually believe you.

Remove vote.

Omg! And the next Oscar goes too...

NOT!

It makes sense for town to have a role like this. Killers probably can't kill while wounded. To heal, they have to see a doctor. Doctors act as finders. Ergo, either scum is slowed, or scum becomes known. It makes fucking sense to me, but since you are convinced, go ahead and ignore what is in your face.

I do agree with this, Sil. It does make sense - town need a role that allows them to wound non-humans, otherwise it would be quite unbalanced.

I meant that Eloth is a lousy actor, not that I don't believe the reveal. I do believe the reveal.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:35 PM

Eloth, might I ask why you brought up the Doctor in the first place?

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Omtose, there has been zero pressure on me. Why would I then place a self-servicing distancing vote?

Also, you hint at having a power role for town. That is indeed a goodreason to not want to get lynched. If you have a power role, ware youconsidering a reveal? I definately hope you'll do that in time to stopa lynch, especially if you are Charlie Swan (although seeing how closecoven seems to victory they may even counterclaim).

I know for a fact there is a doctor and she's alive and kicking (and ifshe's not town, then I'll have to blame myself, but I believe she is),so becoming wounded is going to be no issue for you, in fact, it wouldstrengthen your claim as she'd find out your species if she's the oneto treat you. I for one will be trusting her judgment.

However, when push comes to shove, I say it is a lot better to revealthan get lynched if you are town. I'd rather gamble on there being ahealer to survive than on not getting lynched by your current defense,as it is hardly helping you so far. But that could just be me.

My vote stays for now

For me taking out that paragraph says the exact same thing, except with less alarm bells sounding.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:36 PM

View PostEloth, on 26 October 2009 - 02:30 PM, said:

Were I to confirm or deny the meta, I'd narrow down the choice. It is said deliberately because I figured it wouldn't do much harm, as it can refer to people, (dragon) alts, avatar pictures, whatever you like. The doctor will know, though.
Would be a pity if that got me hanged :)


I don't think that's it, and bringing a role up on thread and confirming (if your telling the truth) that you found a code is bad play.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:37 PM

View PostHood, on 26 October 2009 - 01:53 PM, said:

Omtose, I would hardly say you're useless. It's just no one is going to try to recruit or kill you. Well, unless a werewolf is starved for targets, anyway. They're the only ones who need to go after unimportant Town.



well the whole point of my role is to get the recruiters to try and recruit me...in my book my role is now useless.
:)

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:37 PM

View PostD, on 26 October 2009 - 02:33 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 26 October 2009 - 01:24 PM, said:

Ok...

It seems you guys are not going to belive me no matter what.
You are convicting me for making a weak day one case against the person who voted for myslef.

I felt it was logically sound...others think it was some kind of desperate defense because i shat myself after receiving 2 votes based on my one post.


watever...im not too bothered.
Since i have to now move offices i am probably going to get told to leave my desk any minute now so i really cant go on arguing with you people
Ill reveal then you can go ahead and lynch me...

But just remember...Olar is most likely a Cullen and i believe Eloth self preservation makes him more than likely not Town.
also there have been a few sheo votes on myself, using my "over reaction" as an excuse to voet me off im sure there is allot of info if you go and look at my train.

Im Felicity the Bisexual Zombie :)
I kid you not...thats my name...and i am the towns resident zombie.
PS tells me that there is no zombie in the book but if the author can bastardise vampires then he can bastardise the setting or some such.

Me being a Bisexual zombie i hang out at bar every night lookng for some poon.
If i get seduced and bitten by either a Wolf or vamp they become wounded as my flesh is poison to them.
I have been trying to draw the Night actions as a result of this. so my play has been slightly off because of this i suppose.

Anyways im pretty useless now that ive revealed...


The thing for me that adds credence to this is the title of the thread says werewolves, vampires and zombies. You could have got away with not revealing by simply implying no role and wanting to draw night actions. The wifom of statements like that invariably do draw night actions, but thats irrelevant now. I hope someone out there has the good grace to investigate your claim, but there is no reason to continue to vote for you as things stand.

except that claiming no role would probably have gotten him lynched. Since the werewolves have to dispose of the entire town, they will get wounded by him, so depending on how the game continues, they may have to risk it at some point.

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