[Telas]

edit: xpost, this was @Olar Ethil

So you're saying there's no point defending yourself against symp accusations? Since you did read the ENTIRE thread and clearly hated EVERY post in it, you probably also read and hated the one where I indicated that it was not really a good idea to just lynch you tomorrow.

For one thing, if there are any left, the Cullens have lost arguably the two most important people in their team, based on the fact that they were the only two the Coven needed to kill. So it's probably not likely any remaining members can do anything but sit around. According to the Wiki page, Carlisle did all of the 'turning' for his 'family' so if ANYONE is/was a recruiter for that team, it would probably have been him. And that's based on the idea that people could even be recruited other than Bella.

This post has been edited by Telas: 23 October 2009 - 04:53 PM

[Kaschan]

I wish I'd got on during the day, because I really don't like to talk much at night if I can help it. Hopefully the night will be short...

[Alkend]

I don't like people who get so overly aggressive. Just because you can't see other people's point of view does not mean they are stupid and you do not have the right to insult people like that.

However, I do agree that the case for you being a symp is a bit weak, as it was based on the fact you defended Galain against a weak day 1 case which only seems strong in retrospect as they turned out to be scum.

[Telas]

Well I agree with you Kaschan, as you can see. Two main Cullens dead is helpful to everyone, but it appears to be MOST helpful to the Coven, especially since they presumably have killing powers (could be a 1-per-2 given the lack of kills last night). Attacking another 'presumed' Cullen is actually good for every faction except the Coven, but it gives them more time to do whatever they are going to do.

I already said a while ago that the Cullens were the MOST dangerous, followed by the Evil Vampires (same VCs in that they don't need to kill any town, although it was believed they'd have no recruiting power), with the Coven being a very close 3rd. With 2 big names dead, if there are any left, I'd argue that the Cullens have dropped into 3rd or even 4th place among factions that need to be 'handled' although I think there's always a good argument to just try and finish a faction off. But if the faction only started with 2, we'd be pointlessly chasing leads.

[Kaschan]

I'm going to skidaddle now and will be back when night ends, hope to be more talkative then.

[Tellan]

I'll agree with this.
we need to start looking at the two factions specifically labelled as "scum"

the first plce i'd look is kesso for his happy-go-lucky voting.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Epilogue 2. 5 hours, 32 minutes remaining.

[Telas]

Don't disagree, Tellan, but at some point it has to be taken into account that any faction that does NOT need to kill the town will eventually become more important to take out than a faction that does, just due to VCs. But still a ways until that needs to be considered.

[Kaschan]

Still night? Well that's a bit shit.

[Telas]

C'mon, you really didn't think everyone would have actions submitted for a speed lynch, did you Kaschan?

[Tellan]

Hell, i'm expecting we'll get a timeout if some Aussie didn't submit an action...

[Kaschan]

Telas, on 23 October 2009 - 06:48 PM, said:

C'mon, you really didn't think everyone would have actions submitted for a speed lynch, did you Kaschan?

Good point. I just thought with night timing out last night, people would be more likely to submit provisionals today. Guess not . I retain the right to be grumpy about it though.

[Ruse]

Sorry I missed all of the action. I will probably be out for the rest of the weekend to. I will try to read up here in a minute and comment. I know that you all have been waiting with batted breath.

[Ruse]

Olar Ethil, on 23 October 2009 - 04:28 PM, said:

good morning / noon to you all. I see we got another Cullen, that's good. However, reading this thread gives me but one reaction:

You are not as stupid as the last few pages of this thread imply. Repeat after me: "I am not as stupid as the last few pages of this thread imply. I will think before I post. I will read, not repeat."

Technically I'd like to quote pretty much every post, but instead I end up a couple before exacerbation made me just give up quoting.

Omtose, on 23 October 2009 - 08:49 AM, said:

Eloth, on 23 October 2009 - 08:35 AM, said:

Oh, and I think I'll start of by:

vote Galain.

There has been enough eyebrow raising over the way in which he behaved/worded stuff so far, and since I'm busy, I'm not going to requote everyone's remarks.

hmmm ... i'll hold my vote for now...dont want this day to become too pedestrian, I will be placing my vote on galain again if nothing better comes up.
Barghast being new and all lends strongly to the view that he was galains symp. Also my initial feeling on galain is still the same as yesterday and i feel i was right with regards to him being very indifferent with his voting on merely a whim. Lending to the thought that he is pretty comfy in already knowing who his team is.
His reaction to my thoughts on him was to just blow me off and say im paranoid...not really convincing in my book.

But lets see how the day pans out...got plenty of time.

See; at the time you posted this, THIS WAS A LIE! You've repeated this so many times that people have started repeating it back to you, yet it has no basis in reality. It's something you've cooked up out of thin air. Galain voted for you early in day 1 ergo he must know who his team is? Are you fucking high?

Omtose, on 23 October 2009 - 09:34 AM, said:

My only worry is that galain just came out and placed that vote simply to get a reaction.
But then thats just bad merc game play... You cant go around voting left right and centre in these games it can give away too much.

Bargy jumping on the train shows his in experience...but what was galain doing throwing his vote out?...i think it was a sort of freudian slip and he didnt think about the ramifications because he didnt have to.
evereything is clear for him...he knows enough to not worry about who he is voting for and thats a hellava lot more than what i know.

THIS IS NOT A FUCKING MERC GAME YOU STUPID FUCKING CLUNGE. Goddammit. This is a town vs multiple scum factions. Some of those scum factions are organised merc style, but that is absolutely irrelevant. In this game lynching is more important to the innos than pretty much in any other game we've played and you're trying to angle it so that Galain's vote on you for being arguably suspicious was some sort of stupid move. It was not. You completly lost your head with Barghast's vote and overreacted something magnificently. Everything else from you have just been back pedaling. What really pisses me off though is that people buy your bullshit as if it's gospel.

...

Then of course it's the claim which has become a theory which has become fact that I was symping Galain. Some times I get so fucking pissed with you guys I want to throw something at the wall. Of course I defended Galain. Votes were piling up on him following Omtose posts which MADE NO FUCKING SENSE. It's irrelevant that Galain turned up as Edward in this regard as his approach nevertheless was the right one. He wants 3 enemy teams down before the innos. Omtose seems to believe we're playing the Culture game for some reason and everyone seems part of his fucking delusion. It makes me so frustrated to see what I consider relatively intelligent people act like they've got half a brain between them and three bottles of vodka empty under the table. I'm his fucking symp? Fuck you and the horse you rode in on. I'm the only intelligent person among you flock of drugged sheep.

God I wish I had multiple vigs to use on you stupid fucks. It would make me feel a little better knowing I was surrounded by a few less morons.

Mega plus rep for this

If you had tossed in a couple more cuss words and added a shove it up your butt then it would have been an instant classic.

I agree with you on some of your points, and will vote for Omtose tomorrow. His defense with only two votes was paranoid and panicky. I also agree that you can't really defend a symp charge, much like you can't defend against someones gut feeling. Plus in malazan Mafia we have a tendancy to view all other players defenses of other players as sympish rather then someone trying to think ahead.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Epilogue 2. 4 hours, 25 minutes remaining.

[Path-Shaper]

Just before the sun rises, the villagers of Forks all here a piercing scream coming from the house in the center of town. Many folks throw on their shoes and hurry over there, only to see the local constable, Charlie, a beloved friend, run out of his home and collapse to his knees, sobbing and shuddering. While some villagers rush to comfort him, a group of others cautiously enter the house. Everything seems normal downstairs, but upstairs in one of the bedrooms they find a horrific scene of blood-spattered walls, broken furniture and a pair of corpses. One is a large teenage girl, and the other is a tiny fetus that had been ripped out of her.

Tellan (Mentalist) is dead. She was Bella, a confused, schizophrenic girl.
Renesmee, the mysterious unborn child of Bella, is dead.


It is now Prologue 2.

[Path-Shaper]

Unfortunately I need to run to class, so it'll be prologue for the next 1.5 hoursish. You'll get results of actions and the start of Day when I get back.

[Meanas]

Wait, was Renesmee actually in play? Who was she? What alt!?!?!?!?!? Midterm went over time, started late etc. Choir now. On later.

[Kaschan]

Ooh, well that's some of the uncertainty gone to do with Bella, anyway. Shame though, because from the sound of things she had been converted to town given all the sobbing...

[Kaschan]

Meanas, on 23 October 2009 - 08:13 PM, said:

Wait, was Renesmee actually in play? Who was she? What alt!?!?!?!?!? Midterm went over time, started late etc. Choir now. On later.

I think if she had an alt it would have been listed. Maybe someone who gets added to the game later? Maybe some kind of game mechanic?