[Emurlahn]

Ok the elimination of coven is very good.

It also means that Alkend and Kessobahn weren't symping him. Kessobahn mentioning Serc is not that dodgy as Serc was one of the lowest poster he may have even been the lowest poster at the time.

Alkend though isn't CI'd by Serc cf. For all we know he could have remembered Kesso comment and made one similar as a frame up. Admittedly a dangerous move by Alkend.

[Emurlahn]

Werewolves are now the biggest threat, didn't Olar ask Meanas how long his tail was?

Might be a ok signal to another team member who doesn't kow you by asking a question that is more largely sexual inneundo banter.

[Hood's Path]

Emurlahn, on 28 October 2009 - 01:13 PM, said:

Werewolves are now the biggest threat, didn't Olar ask Meanas how long his tail was?

Might be a ok signal to another team member who doesn't kow you by asking a question that is more largely sexual inneundo banter.

So you think that was werewolf signalling, and that they are both werewolves? Seems fairly stupid signalling, as werewolf is the obvious conclusion to draw.

[Hood's Path]

I do agree with you about the werewolves though, they seem in pole position, plus they have a reason to target town. Thing is though, I have no idea who could be a werewolf.

[Emurlahn]

It does seem silly I'll admit, but it was just something that came to mind.

[Emurlahn]

Also Meanas sticking his vote on Olar would suggest that they aren't paired.

[Hood's Path]

No, I would think not, there were plenty of other suspects, no need to vote your partner for distancing. I'm gonna go take a look at Olar though before I go to bed, I haven't liked his play, or his attitude, so far.

[Emurlahn]

So much for my theory he was coven.

[Hood's Path]

No reason he can't be any other sort of scum, though.

[Hood's Path]

6 anons and only 2 people chatting?

[Path-Shaper]

It is Epilogue 4: 2 hours and 47 mins left.

[Ruse]

Nice that the coven are all dead. It does nothing to clear up Emurlahn though. Here is my case on him in case you missed it and or are to lazy to go back and find it.

Ruse, on 27 October 2009 - 10:05 PM, said:

Ok so I went back and looked at Eloth's and Emurlahn's interactions when Eloth was trying to drive the lynch on Omtose. First up is Eloths vote onto Omtose. Eloth lays out his reasons for voting Omtose really well puts the vote on and disappears.

Eloth, on 24 October 2009 - 09:42 AM, said:

Fuck. I just lost a whole post.

Anyway, aside from a spat between Kesso and OE not a lot has happened that wasn't visible yesterday, apart from Bella dying (more on that in a moment), apart from two people mentioning that I am apparently a symp to either Omtose or Galain. Let's kick of with that. I'd say it is PRETTY obvious I am not on the Cullen team.

Fact: I supported Galains notion of Omtose being jumpy - made a post against Omtose straight after both he and Barghast voted against Omtose, even, but withheld a vote. So, that can be the only thing why I think people assume I am on Galains side.
When i came back on later, I agreed that barghast was obviously symping and voted him over Omtoses rather jumpy and nervous defense (which I also mentioned).

Voted yesterday straight out of the gates for Galain based on Barghast coming up as scum. That might be why people think I symped omtose, but it was for me the only good way of action. My earlier comments against omtose still stand, and he was jumpy, flighty and panicked early. Haven't seen anything like that on thread since, so:

Vote Omtose

(although I am interested in the case on Telas, I think it is? Anyone with a post number?)

As for Tellan dying: we all knew from the OP that she started of unaligned and could be recruited by certain factions, who would then gain a significant advantage. seeing how she and the spawn are killed together and the spawn was ripped from her, I assume that the baby would have been 'the significant advantage' and would have been 'born' once she was recruited and then did something for that faction. I had to go on wiki to see if that was plausible. I now need a shower.

There is one person who votes inbetween Eloth and Emurlahn. If you are a partner or symp that is the perfect distance to place a follow up vote. But Emurlahn doesn't bother to give a reason he just lays down his vote and goes away. Why should he give a reason his master/partner already gave on further up on the page.

Emurlahn, on 24 October 2009 - 09:50 PM, said:

So I can't ask you a question, D'riss? There a weekend break no need to rush a lynch.

But if you're not wanting to talk.

Vote Omtose

For acting squirmy on first day, with only a couple of posts agaiinst him.

This case comes extremely quickly and as soon as Eloth has came under pressure from several people for infering that the doctor reveal himself. Once again a very good symp/partner move. Notice that he doesn't attack the people attacking his master/partner he instead goes after someone who has drawn a little bit of heat but nothing concrete till then. This does to fold. If done correctly then it might get his master/partner off the hook and set up a lynch the next day. Emurlahn will be able to say that he has been after Olar for several days, when infact he was originally trying to protect his master/partner.

Emurlahn, on 26 October 2009 - 01:53 PM, said:

I did think Olar could be the other cullen but he could be another faction member trying to act as such as an attempt to throw people off him, we are going the cullens aren't a threat they lost two of their guys. If that the case the true Cullen wouldn't be so obvious hoping that later in the game he might improve his side situation.

If Olar isn't cullen, then what is he?

Town, Werewolves, and evil vampires benefit from destruction of cullens, so I don't think he is one of them.

Coven have killed all the cullens they need to kill, so if Olar is coven he may try to appear as the last cullen in a play to delay the other teams make them waste kills.

Remove Vote
Vote Olar Ethil

The rest of the thread is talking about how Eloth forced Omtose to reveal and how Eloth has been trying to get the doctor to reveal. But Emurlahn ignores all of that. He has nothing to say on that subject instead he continues to bring up Olar as an lynch alternitive. This means that he is smart enough to reconize that his master/partners position has gotten procarious and that they aren't going to be able to lynch Omtose today.

Emurlahn, on 26 October 2009 - 02:07 PM, said:

Didn't Olar came on after Barghast was lynched, really hitting at everyone following Omtose as if his word came from god itself?

This is just another example of Emurlahn purposely ignoring Eloth while at the same time planting seads and trying to lead the thread onto someone who he isn't aligned with.

Emurlahn, on 26 October 2009 - 02:08 PM, said:

If the Cullens know each other why symp each other in the first place, ok Barghast is a new player, but Olar and Galain if they knew each other wouldn't need to obviosly symp each other.

Now he is trying to give his master/partner a way out. Asking him easy to answer questions in the hopes that Eloth will be able to figure out a way out of the mess that he has gotten himself into.

Emurlahn, on 26 October 2009 - 02:11 PM, said:

Which means that your voting actions give away who you suspect the doctor is? And about you being scum, you could be a scum finder, guard or something else apart from killer and this is an attempt by you to signal to your killer on a possible target.

After several hours he finally gives up when it is obvious that Eloth is going to get lynched and joins the train. After all it is one thing to try to save a master/partner it is another thing to be taken down with them. But his vote is at the later part of the train and the fact that he totally ignored Eloths entire escapade but was online and posting is damning unto its self.

Emurlahn, on 26 October 2009 - 04:00 PM, said:

Remove Vote
Vote Eloth

For obvious reasons that Eloth has given us.

By the time he gets around to voting Eloth has already revealed himself to be a evil Vamp and so this is basically a cutting his loses vote. These are the reasons that I am voting for Emurlahn.

This post has been edited by Ruse: 28 October 2009 - 01:43 PM

[Kessobahn]

Stuff has happened, I see. I thought midway through catching up that 'foreigner' was a catch-all term for 'character from abroad' and that Omtose might actually have been a member of one of the factions already, but then he was labelled a tourist so that was out. Only one Coven member? Then if the game began with one Coven member, three Cullens, 2+ Evil Vampires, 2-3 werewolves, Bella, and Felicity, that means around eight Town. Less town now, depending on whether Seth Clearwater from PS's day action description has been recruited by a faction or if it was just a piece of flavor text, and any other possible recruitment.

[Ampelas]

Here and catching up. So Serc was Coven and was the only member of the Coven? Is that weird or is it just me? Although perhaps Serc was wounded Night 1 but didnt' want to seek help and thats why we haven't seen any kills from the Coven? Although a one person Coven is strange in general.

So what do we make of Omtose then being a Tourist? A member of town? As there is still the Olar - Omtose lying business which I would like cleared up.

[Alkend]

Kessobahn, on 28 October 2009 - 01:43 PM, said:

Stuff has happened, I see. I thought midway through catching up that 'foreigner' was a catch-all term for 'character from abroad' and that Omtose might actually have been a member of one of the factions already, but then he was labelled a tourist so that was out. Only one Coven member? Then if the game began with one Coven member, three Cullens, 2+ Evil Vampires, 2-3 werewolves, Bella, and Felicity, that means around eight Town. Less town now, depending on whether Seth Clearwater from PS's day action description has been recruited by a faction or if it was just a piece of flavor text, and any other possible recruitment.

I looked up seth clearwater on wiki, and Seth appears to be a werewolf, so if mods are sticking vaguely to the storyline, then maybe a werewolf was recruited by vampires.

[Ruse]

Ampelas, on 28 October 2009 - 01:49 PM, said:

Here and catching up. So Serc was Coven and was the only member of the Coven? Is that weird or is it just me? Although perhaps Serc was wounded Night 1 but didnt' want to seek help and thats why we haven't seen any kills from the Coven? Although a one person Coven is strange in general.

So what do we make of Omtose then being a Tourist? A member of town? As there is still the Olar - Omtose lying business which I would like cleared up.

I think that Dk was telling just enough truth to cover his lies. I have never read any of the books so I have no idea if a Coven can have Zombies but it seems to me that it would have been a good match up for there to be a coven master then someone with DK's abilities working together.

[Emurlahn]

The wiki for twilight says that the coven are another group of vampires.

[Telas]

Wow great result, and some clarification, too.

The CFs remind me of Sixty's Lies games... the Gray King faction had 3 different CFs for 4 different people, even though they were all in the same faction. Remember, it's CITY OFFICIALS that are giving us the 'faction' portion of the CF, so it stands to reason they don't know the faction of people that aren't from around here.

If Coven really were destroyed with only 1 death, it's not a huge stretch to imagine that Omtose was also Coven or that other Coven were recruited.

[Ampelas]

Well thing is, if Omtose was Coven, wouldnt' he CF the same as Serc? I would imagine he would.

[Ampelas]

Hmm didn't play that game, but its a good point, I can see Tourist and Foreigner being the same faction then. Enough doubt at least that Omtose could have been lying, so I can put that Olar lying thing to rest.