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Here you can see PS saying that He couldn't reveal that he was kirk. I still don't know why he didn't try something else.
Path-Shaper, on 13 October 2009 - 03:34 AM, said:
you are allowed to reveal, but your reveal must NOT, under penalty of modkill, be related to the content of your role PM, insofar as it goes beyound the standard "you are vig/healer/guard/finder/RI/etc"
just a small clarification for you all, since GK appears to be adamant on this rule.
just a small clarification for you all, since GK appears to be adamant on this rule.
Korvalain, on 13 October 2009 - 09:07 AM, said:
Karosis, on 13 October 2009 - 08:38 AM, said:
the only thing stopping me voting for atrahal is the fact that revealing during the night would open him to investigation from the town as well as attack from the klingons. Instead i am going to
vote ampelas
Theres just this nagging feeling that something isnt right there.
vote ampelas
Theres just this nagging feeling that something isnt right there.
If he is scum, he wouldn't have to worry about the Klingons. Investigation is a bigger issue, but if the finder(s) believed he PIed himself, why bother investigating? Looking at the reactions to the reveal, no-one said it was impossible, most grudgingly accepted it with complaints about revealing at night, and that includes me.
What is holding me back right now is, as I said, the claim that Kalse was Kirk. However, gleaning from the rules:
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No hinting or paraphrasing of Role pms, this will be enforced bymodkill. But you are still allowed to claim yourself as Captain Kirk or anyone else that comes to mind.
Why the fuck didn't Kalse himself just claim Kirk?
GK openly says here he was allowed to, and I think several of us would have hesitated voting until a counterclaim popped up, or switched to Tennes straight away.
Fuck it. This might be a huge mistake, but there's a lot that doesn't make sense about the whole proceedings and reveal.
Vote Atrahal.
The above should clear that up.
Korvalain, on 13 October 2009 - 06:47 PM, said:
Alkend, on 13 October 2009 - 06:44 PM, said:
Korvalain, on 13 October 2009 - 06:41 PM, said:
*SNIP*
Good question, but as I tried to point out and as Thyrllan agrees, there are so many inconsistencies that he probably lied. I think you'll agree with me that innos just should not lie - it makes them scummy.
Good question, but as I tried to point out and as Thyrllan agrees, there are so many inconsistencies that he probably lied. I think you'll agree with me that innos just should not lie - it makes them scummy.
It's a fair point, but if I ask you if you're roled inno, roleless inno, or scum, what are you going to tell me? You're going to say RI, even if you are not, simply because it does not benefit your team (whichever that may be) to reveal the truth.
I don't think his reveal is as much of a lie as it is just a bad reveal.
As Dr. House says, "Everybody lies."
There was no pressure for him to even reveal the lover connection if he was Kalses lover, he could have dived under, and as roled inno, that would have been my choice. There was already a case on Tennes, he made a second one, nothing bad about that. Instead, he chose to blame people for lynching Kalse, and then came forward with the lover reveal. There was no pressure on him at all to give that info to the thread at that point.
No there was no pressure on me at all. If I had a role then I wouldn't have revealed anything at all. I would have kept my mouth shut and kept going. I didn't blame people I blamed Amp who even though he is dead I think that he was scum. The fact that I was under no pressure should tell you that I am either the ballsiest and stupidest killer ever or a ri.
Tennes, on 13 October 2009 - 06:48 PM, said:
Alkend, on 13 October 2009 - 06:34 PM, said:
OK well here's my next question then, and I'll start with a statement...
Atrahal is kind of a bonehead. His reveal was bad and poorly timed and seems riddled with potential get-around-the-rules holes.
But does anyone actually think he's going to CF scum? If he's inno, he basically put a target on his back that said, "Kill me" last night and the scum clearly didn't see it or are trying to use the crap reveal to get him to take a fall for it.
Alternatively, if he's scum, he put a target on his FRONT if he doesn't die tonight, although now that we're getting these silly borderline reveals, Atrahal has a much better chance of getting away with it if he really did make that gamble because someone like Tennes or Karosis seems more likely to get offed. But the only scenario that would have made sense would have been if Tennes AND Atrahal are both scum and engineered some back-to-back fake reveals... but if none of them die tonight, then it seems like a simple set of lynches to take them out.
Point is, the Atrahal-is-scum tactic just doesn't add up to me. If he's scum, why make a wave when he wasn't even on any radar?
But I'll vote him if it means lynch or no lynch.
Atrahal is kind of a bonehead. His reveal was bad and poorly timed and seems riddled with potential get-around-the-rules holes.
But does anyone actually think he's going to CF scum? If he's inno, he basically put a target on his back that said, "Kill me" last night and the scum clearly didn't see it or are trying to use the crap reveal to get him to take a fall for it.
Alternatively, if he's scum, he put a target on his FRONT if he doesn't die tonight, although now that we're getting these silly borderline reveals, Atrahal has a much better chance of getting away with it if he really did make that gamble because someone like Tennes or Karosis seems more likely to get offed. But the only scenario that would have made sense would have been if Tennes AND Atrahal are both scum and engineered some back-to-back fake reveals... but if none of them die tonight, then it seems like a simple set of lynches to take them out.
Point is, the Atrahal-is-scum tactic just doesn't add up to me. If he's scum, why make a wave when he wasn't even on any radar?
But I'll vote him if it means lynch or no lynch.
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Kalse wasn't Kirk.
Vote Atrahal
ETA: te reason I quoted you here is to say, because Kalse isn't Kirk I think Atrahal is scum
You are lying and we both know it. Take a look at Kalses death.
Path-Shaper, on 12 October 2009 - 06:58 PM, said:
THesuspect was running away from the security guards, people had pointedthem out earlier, something about them was odd. Maybe they talked toomuch about this show star trek and were barely looking for theklingons, it a trick someone said, they are trying to distract us fromour duty. Kalse running didn't help the suspicion. After the guardscaught him in a dead end he tried to reason with them, as the guardslowered their phasers, at which Kalse breathed a sigh of a relief, thehatch above him opened covering him in tribbles Uhuru secret stash hadbeen found. When the guards had pulled him out they found that Kalsehad suffocated on a tribble.
Kalse is dead they were a member of the crew.
It is now night.
Kalse is dead they were a member of the crew.
It is now night.
There is only one person who the Tribbles fell on. Kirk. I used that to verify what Kalse had told me in his message. There have been subtle clues in a couple of the scenes. Even though they say that there aren't. That one is easy to get. Notice that I didn't announce that I had been Kalses lover till after I was able to verify that he was actually kirk. While I know that none of this will really matter to much and those of you who are hell bent on lynching me will do so anyway regardless of what I say. I know what I know, my only mistake was in not revealing everything that I knew as soon as I knew it.
Now do you have any other question for me. I am only on for a short time. I think that I might go and drink some Guinness and Highland Park.
