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Posted 28 October 2009 - 06:49 PM

Telas, on 28 October 2009 - 06:32 PM, said:

Well, another night gone and we have another, presumably Evil Vampire kill.

Baudin,tough break, especially if DKT really was your ally. Hard to fault youfor how you got sold down the river by Kesso and the now dead Alkend.

Impirion,I'm surprised someone killed you. I wish I knew what to think. Surelyit's not revenge for taking out a master. It could just be a generalconfusion style kill.

Today, I'm wondering what will happen. Ihave a good feeling Olar Ethil will again be a focus and likely moreheed will be paid to Emurlahn. I am partially contemplating helping outEmurlahn if he gets attacked by letting everyone know that he's themayor. Of course, I don't want to risk him getting needlessly killed bydoing that, so I may be more inclined to just let him handle it himself.

I'dlike to try and find some Queleti, because I think they are going tobecome a problem. I know in the books werewolves can't 'infect' peoplebecause you're either born able to become a werewolf or you aren't, butI wouldn't be shocked if you had it differently here. The 'defeat thetown' VC is just so hard to imagine because it means they have to relyon other factions to stay alive long enough to hit a lynch majority...which again, indicates larger-than-normal faction, or recruitingpowers.

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 06:58 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 28 October 2009 - 06:49 PM, said:

Telas, on 28 October 2009 - 06:32 PM, said:

Well, another night gone and we have another, presumably Evil Vampire kill.

Baudin,tough break, especially if DKT really was your ally. Hard to fault youfor how you got sold down the river by Kesso and the now dead Alkend.

Impirion,I'm surprised someone killed you. I wish I knew what to think. Surelyit's not revenge for taking out a master. It could just be a generalconfusion style kill.

Today, I'm wondering what will happen. Ihave a good feeling Olar Ethil will again be a focus and likely moreheed will be paid to Emurlahn. I am partially contemplating helping outEmurlahn if he gets attacked by letting everyone know that he's themayor. Of course, I don't want to risk him getting needlessly killed bydoing that, so I may be more inclined to just let him handle it himself.

I'dlike to try and find some Queleti, because I think they are going tobecome a problem. I know in the books werewolves can't 'infect' peoplebecause you're either born able to become a werewolf or you aren't, butI wouldn't be shocked if you had it differently here. The 'defeat thetown' VC is just so hard to imagine because it means they have to relyon other factions to stay alive long enough to hit a lynch majority...which again, indicates larger-than-normal faction, or recruitingpowers.




Not as surprised as I was to find out it was friendly fire.

@PS Despite the advantage of the talking to each other, one unlucky lynch would have really screwed us. Oh and your first sentence doesn't make sense.

Oh and I think the new alt thing would have been shot in flames, as mafia being what it is, a new alt appearing 3 days in would have taken so much flak it would have been funny.
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Posted 28 October 2009 - 07:44 PM

View PostImpirion, on 28 October 2009 - 06:58 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 28 October 2009 - 06:49 PM, said:

Telas, on 28 October 2009 - 06:32 PM, said:

Well, another night gone and we have another, presumably Evil Vampire kill.

Baudin,tough break, especially if DKT really was your ally. Hard to fault youfor how you got sold down the river by Kesso and the now dead Alkend.

Impirion,I'm surprised someone killed you. I wish I knew what to think. Surelyit's not revenge for taking out a master. It could just be a generalconfusion style kill.

Today, I'm wondering what will happen. Ihave a good feeling Olar Ethil will again be a focus and likely moreheed will be paid to Emurlahn. I am partially contemplating helping outEmurlahn if he gets attacked by letting everyone know that he's themayor. Of course, I don't want to risk him getting needlessly killed bydoing that, so I may be more inclined to just let him handle it himself.

I'dlike to try and find some Queleti, because I think they are going tobecome a problem. I know in the books werewolves can't 'infect' peoplebecause you're either born able to become a werewolf or you aren't, butI wouldn't be shocked if you had it differently here. The 'defeat thetown' VC is just so hard to imagine because it means they have to relyon other factions to stay alive long enough to hit a lynch majority...which again, indicates larger-than-normal faction, or recruitingpowers.




Not as surprised as I was to find out it was friendly fire.

@PS Despite the advantage of the talking to each other, one unlucky lynch would have really screwed us. Oh and your first sentence doesn't make sense.

Oh and I think the new alt thing would have been shot in flames, as mafia being what it is, a new alt appearing 3 days in would have taken so much flak it would have been funny.



re first sentence: there was supposed to be another werwolf/queleti role named Quil, but we didn't have enough players...

As for Renesmee, it's not a brand new alt that she gets. I guess you've never played a game with a faceless man (FM). Basically a FM is a killer that takes over the victim's alt, so if Ment had Renesmee and was still Tellan, during the night he'd kill, say, Silanah(Gem). Ment would still be Renesmee and would switch to the Silanah alt, and the CF would be that Tellan (Gem) died and was Mike Newton. And this would happen every night. It's one of the most powerful common roles in mafia (others being Jester or a Recruiter with no limitations to who he can recruit), and generally in any game with one that is less than a TMDI 10 the creator says beforehand that there is an FM in the game.
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Posted 28 October 2009 - 07:53 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 28 October 2009 - 07:44 PM, said:

View PostImpirion, on 28 October 2009 - 06:58 PM, said:

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Telas, on 28 October 2009 - 06:32 PM, said:

Well, another night gone and we have another, presumably Evil Vampire kill.

Baudin,tough break, especially if DKT really was your ally. Hard to fault youfor how you got sold down the river by Kesso and the now dead Alkend.

Impirion,I'm surprised someone killed you. I wish I knew what to think. Surelyit's not revenge for taking out a master. It could just be a generalconfusion style kill.

Today, I'm wondering what will happen. Ihave a good feeling Olar Ethil will again be a focus and likely moreheed will be paid to Emurlahn. I am partially contemplating helping outEmurlahn if he gets attacked by letting everyone know that he's themayor. Of course, I don't want to risk him getting needlessly killed bydoing that, so I may be more inclined to just let him handle it himself.

I'dlike to try and find some Queleti, because I think they are going tobecome a problem. I know in the books werewolves can't 'infect' peoplebecause you're either born able to become a werewolf or you aren't, butI wouldn't be shocked if you had it differently here. The 'defeat thetown' VC is just so hard to imagine because it means they have to relyon other factions to stay alive long enough to hit a lynch majority...which again, indicates larger-than-normal faction, or recruitingpowers.




Not as surprised as I was to find out it was friendly fire.

@PS Despite the advantage of the talking to each other, one unlucky lynch would have really screwed us. Oh and your first sentence doesn't make sense.

Oh and I think the new alt thing would have been shot in flames, as mafia being what it is, a new alt appearing 3 days in would have taken so much flak it would have been funny.



re first sentence: there was supposed to be another werwolf/queleti role named Quil, but we didn't have enough players...

As for Renesmee, it's not a brand new alt that she gets. I guess you've never played a game with a faceless man (FM). Basically a FM is a killer that takes over the victim's alt, so if Ment had Renesmee and was still Tellan, during the night he'd kill, say, Silanah(Gem). Ment would still be Renesmee and would switch to the Silanah alt, and the CF would be that Tellan (Gem) died and was Mike Newton. And this would happen every night. It's one of the most powerful common roles in mafia (others being Jester or a Recruiter with no limitations to who he can recruit), and generally in any game with one that is less than a TMDI 10 the creator says beforehand that there is an FM in the game.



Ah okies. Understand now, I guess we would have had a better chance then. By the way isn't Ampelas gonna screw us over as I am guessing Mockra and D'riss really think he's on our side.
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Posted 28 October 2009 - 11:33 PM

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Well, another night gone and we have another, presumably Evil Vampire kill.

Baudin, tough break, especially if DKT really was your ally. Hard to fault you for how you got sold down the river by Kesso and the now dead Alkend.

Impirion, I'm surprised someone killed you. I wish I knew what to think. Surely it's not revenge for taking out a master. It could just be a general confusion style kill.

Today, I'm wondering what will happen. I have a good feeling Olar Ethil will again be a focus and likely more heed will be paid to Emurlahn. I am partially contemplating helping out Emurlahn if he gets attacked by letting everyone know that he's the mayor. Of course, I don't want to risk him getting needlessly killed by doing that, so I may be more inclined to just let him handle it himself.

I'd like to try and find some Queleti, because I think they are going to become a problem. I know in the books werewolves can't 'infect' people because you're either born able to become a werewolf or you aren't, but I wouldn't be shocked if you had it differently here. The 'defeat the town' VC is just so hard to imagine because it means they have to rely on other factions to stay alive long enough to hit a lynch majority... which again, indicates larger-than-normal faction, or recruiting powers.



And Bentalain goes into detail for night 5:

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Dont drink

investigate Hoods Path

no idea why, just something funny about the "night" and how he seems to never be on when anything is happening. Possibly lurker wolf.

Anyway - I figure

4 known - 3 Presumed innocent (Olar, me, and Kaschan) - 1 scum (Telas)

lynch Emur or Kess

5 known - 12 left (add in a NK - possibly 11 left)

lynch Kess or Emur

6 known - 11 left (add in a NK - possibly 9 left)

then I reveal all info (possibly)


Anyway - looks like we are in pretty decent shape - and I still have my BP, so that is handy. just in case.


So to re-hash -

Dont drink

Find Hood's Path

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 11:47 PM

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I'm not sure overall how I'm performing. Gods next time make me finder or killer, I can play those roles.

Gods it hard trying to agree with Ruse and Korv views when half the time they list me as scum. But I'm having to rely on them to focus my attention on possible people. also I have to do it in a way that suggests I don't know them.

I'm enjoying myself though, it a nice puzzle to figure out.

I wouldn't be surprised if I have been wrong so far in my guesses.

I think my reveal has went ok. And |I haven't given away too much info.

And I'm sure that Mockra tried to kill me. But knowing my luck I'm ewntirely wrong.

I think Ruse may now believe me lol.

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 01:36 AM

Kaschan, on 29 October 2009 - 12:44 AM, said:

Isthis yet another case of me not being confident enough in my deductionsto carry through with them? I guess I'll find out when I get toSH...self-doubt is a killer.

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 03:48 AM

self-doubt is a horrible thing in mafia. you pick a theory, and you run with it, criticising anyone that's thinking you may be wrong.

and if it turns out you were completely wrong... well, at least you can say "I've had fun with it"
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And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 29 October 2009 - 10:23 AM

You've had a lot of fun, haven't you Ment. :(
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Posted 29 October 2009 - 10:25 AM

HP's prov. I wonder if he'll remember to say what info he wants to find out...

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stalk him and then he dies...that'd be right. Same thing happened with Bella. Wait a minute...*looks over shoulder* hello? anybody there?

Oh, and can I place a provisional stalk on Kessobahn please.

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 01:44 PM

Kaschan:

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Provisionally Do Nothing

At the moment I'm of the mindset that the scum are in the group of Silanah, D'riss, Hood's Path, Mockra and Ampelas.

Reasoning:

Olar Ethil and Emurlahn's reveals make sense, so for the time being I trust them. Kessobahn I think is inno based on the fact that he either had a lover relationship with Omtose (which means he must have been in the bar) or was a finder of some kind. Korvalain is either very good at pretending to be inno or is, Telas' reaction to my vote on him seemed inno-ish*...now why did I PI Ruse? I can't remember, but he's crossed off my little list. Meanas doesn't want to vote for Kesso and is willing to say that on thread.

Anyway, that leaves Silanah, Mockra, Ampelas, Hood's Path and D'riss...


*The more I think about it, the less sure I am...



Korv still wants HP, but he wants to Drink:

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Check that last provisional

DRINK!!!

and investigate Hood's Path


And Meanas changes as well:

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Change provisional, kill Olar.

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 01:46 PM

Groooooooooooogggggggggggggggggggg


This is not going to be a good day. I will endeavor to moderate as much as I can, throughout, though.

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 01:55 PM

Day ends in 10 hoursish. I should be able to resolve that if you're not available or passed out. I'll be just waking up. :(

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 02:01 PM

Ok that is good to know. Very little sleep be had, and I just finished writing a test, with a midterm later today as well. It is pain.
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Posted 29 October 2009 - 04:58 PM

I can help mod if you guys desperately need it. I am on GMT and available most of the time, as shown by my posting all hours of the day while I was alive :(
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Posted 29 October 2009 - 06:51 PM

I can tossi n a few PMs here or there since i'm in fornt of the laptop, but I don't wanna do the resolutions.
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And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 29 October 2009 - 07:19 PM

WTF is MockDude doing? His play today has screamed scum... just seems weirdly panicked and not making very much sense either.

Basically we are screwed, no way Mockra is gonna survive more than a day or two from this, and after that... there's just no feasible way we can win.

Also, KaschThursday is really rather bang on with his suspicions, though he seems to have painted himself into a bit of a corner, and I really feel he read far too much into that post.

I would offer to do resolutions, but I first clear myself of all responsibility of mistakes :(
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Posted 29 October 2009 - 07:32 PM

and just as I write that, my Internet dies.. stupid wirelss sigh...

HP:[quote name='Hood's Path' timestamp='1256824623' date='29 October 2009 - 09:57 AM']


HP:
[quote name='Hood's Path' timestamp='1256824623' date='29 October 2009 - 09:57 AM']Hi P-S, I'd like to place a provisional on Telas please.[/quote]

Ruse:[quote name='Ruse' timestamp='1256833364' date='29 October 2009 - 12:22 PM']
This is breaking down to the town with the evil Vamp vrs the wolves... Well I know 3 people who are probably town. Olar, myself, and Emurl... Since I don't know for sure who else is town I am just waiting to see who is going after Emurlahn and defending Mockra. I kind of agree with Emurlahns. Comclusion on him. Of course I also agree with the case on Amp and find Telas suspicious as hell....


Vengeace lurking like a lurker... :([/quote]

One thing that's really screwing people over is that there are only like 8 townies in a 20-person game. , hence most people who act scummy actually ARE scum...

but , ofc, no'one actually gonna think that.

also this new "click here to type your response" feature is being slower than a snail/turtle hybrid. it's very annoying.
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And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 29 October 2009 - 08:48 PM

it's starting to look like a Mockra lynch. once he's gone, wolves are pretty much screwed--all they have D'riss with a single vig left, and they need to get rid of Telas and the 7 town players.

Telas will need to get rid of D'riss and Meanas ('m assuming HP can't win by himself since he's a symp)

evil vamps wil need to get rid of D'riss and Telas

and Illy will win once both Telas and Meanas are dead, but D'riss still lives.

lol, town will have to play very careful soon...
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And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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