[Path-Shaper]

It was interesting watching Bubba cast the first vote and then Beru joined in. dk is quick (and right) in his analysis.



D'rek, I can't seem to use MafiaManager. It says "game not started yet", so I did that last time count by hand.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 22 October 2009 - 12:13 PM

[Path-Shaper]

D'rek here. Mafia Manager is currently non-operational (I don't know why it's only for our game). Alt is working on it, he thinks the hosting company might've inserted an ad right in the middle of his code. For now we just have to do our own math.

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D'riDibs:

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D, on 22 October 2009 - 03:02 PM, said:

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D, on 22 October 2009 - 02:01 PM, said:

mytactic, a running theme recently in games, is to play slow and easy forthe first few days. altruistic slightly but i believe survival to beparamount. so avoiding everything and not commiting until someoneannoys me. my only fear is being killed early, but i can live withthat.

makes sense, you wanna live to use those vigs after all!

well i want to make sure no one has any bps so i dont waste my vigs.

i would assume people are recruited who are able to be recruited by someone effectively trying to killthem.

do i have a hidden bp, i think i must

so hidden that other players cant see it and it doesnt affect them at all when they try to kill you!

vengruse:

Ruse, on 22 October 2009 - 02:05 PM, said:

Boy would I like to jump into the shit storm over Galain and Omtose but as a good guy I need to keep my head down...

Especially on day one when lynches can shift quickly and violently...

meanas/m45:

Path-Shaper, on 22 October 2009 - 02:20 PM, said:

Meanas, on 22 October 2009 - 01:17 AM, said:

what is the significance of the number 9 next to my kill power? If we choose to kill can one of us still hit up the bar?

The 9 is the timing of the action in the order of resolution. See the mechanics post for more info.

Since you're paired, you need to both take no action in order to go to the bar.

dktoromtose:

Omtose, on 22 October 2009 - 02:21 PM, said:

I am sticking my neck out a little.
Should rather stick to being more lo profile with this type of role.

meh....too late now, and completely against my normal style of play anyway.

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and some alt guesses:

Tellan, on 22 October 2009 - 01:09 AM, said:

heh, Galain's in the pacific timezone.

oh noes, it's the Dude!

that will make his lynch all the sweeter...

Tellan, on 22 October 2009 - 05:48 AM, said:

This convo will be for all my alt-guesses

HP is MTS.

meta FTW!

[Path-Shaper]

And then some of those provs:

Silanah, on 22 October 2009 - 11:05 AM, said:

Hey, sending in provisional since I don't know when I'll be back playing.

Entice Bella

Consider it confirmed.

Path-Shaper, on 22 October 2009 - 02:36 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 22 October 2009 - 11:50 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 22 October 2009 - 11:48 AM, said:

Korvalain, on 22 October 2009 - 11:27 AM, said:

Ground the little girl, tonight.

Then investigate Telas.

Dont drink tonight.

Shin here,

From your PM, if you're grounding her you choose 3 players (since you're sober) who will then be unable to entice her.

crap forgot that part....

Eloth-Alkend-Mockra

there you go...

Also Bubba is barghast

Targets noted.

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PB/Telas:

Telas, on 22 October 2009 - 02:32 PM, said:

Whatthe hell did Galain do? That was a case of epic badness and naturallyBarghast's half-assed attempt to agree with it and vote immediatelyscreams symp (Carlisle?)

Omtose didn't vote him in return, buthe did a 3-in-row style post of why it was so bad, a clear indicationthat he's frustrated and doesn't want to be lynched and is trying toturn it around on Galain, which means Omtose is not a Cullen.

Thenwe have Kaschan chiding Galain but not voting him... sympish. Elothshows up and AGREES with Galain... sympish. Our faction can't be thatbig so most likely most/all of these people are just being overly nicebut seriously, if it's Barghast on the team, he has GOT to take bettercare of how he agrees with Galain, especially if they are in the sametime zone and are likely to be online at the same time often.

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Path-Shaper, on 22 October 2009 - 12:12 PM, said:

It was interesting watching Bubba cast the first vote and then Beru joined in. dk is quick (and right) in his analysis.



D'rek, I can't seem to use MafiaManager. It says "game not started yet", so I did that last time count by hand.

Yeah, beru made a bit of a noob mistake there by too clearly supporting his leader and the veterans are all going to catch it. Hopefully they realize the reason for it and don't vote him out on his first day...

dkt could get into a bit of a soft spot these early few days, but once he gets some corruptions in place, he can be the devil and ask the corrupted players for their opinion, at which point they can't really accuse him because they can't vote for their own argument them!

Oh and I added 2 hours to the timer to compensate for the forum downtime.

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Telas, on 22 October 2009 - 03:27 PM, said:

WellI know how Mafia works and the case on Galain is pretty damn good forDay 1, especially in a game of factions where it's not likely for morethan ~50% of the players to be town.

I have a few options.

1)Just wait and see who votes Galain and why. Very likely the early votesare not Cullens (Tellan has a vote, Omtose isn't willing to go down) soI can use that information later in the game, should I live long enough.

2)Kill someone to keep things interesting. Obviously, I'd have to killsomeone that isn't on my team for it to be worth it. Right now theperson that stands out in my mind is Omtose, the 'subject' of Galain'scase. Since the only people with any risk of being lynched today areOmtose and Galain and I can't very well kill Galain, Omtose is theremaining option.

If Omtose DFs as a townie, then Galain isprobably doomed and nothing I can do but hop on late in the train ormysteriously disappear for the day and just hope enough votes aren'tthere (highly unlikely).

If Omtose DFs as anything but a townie,Galain has a 'better' chance at not being lynched because it's possiblefor discussion to spark AGAINST people who were clearly trying to pushthe Galain case.

My real problem is that I have to decide prettyquickly because speed lynches are highly disliked and so in order togive as much time as possible for the crowd to look over otherpotential lynches given the DF, I need to do it quickly.

Tellan is another option simply because it's possible he's fake symping Omtose in an effort to set up a future lynch.

Path-Shaper, on 22 October 2009 - 04:08 PM, said:

Telas, on 22 October 2009 - 04:04 PM, said:

Ialso kind of like the case Ruse put on Barghast, but it's verydangerous water. If I kill or help lynch Barghast, there's a reasonablechance he's a Cullen and when everyone sees he's a Cullen and isn'tEdward, bye bye Galain. Of course, this works in reverse if Galain islynched first, too. In fact, this works in every scenario in whichBarghast isn't lynched first AND isn't town.

If I kill Barghastand he's town, it makes the 'symping Galain' case look a lot weaker. IfBarghast is any other faction people will just say Galain is the leaderand he's dead anyway.

But would it be worth the risk?

Maybe they are the predators...

Path-Shaper, on 22 October 2009 - 04:02 PM, said:

Omtose, on 22 October 2009 - 03:26 PM, said:

Ok....i want to seed barghast and then make him vote for...


ME

tomorrow....
Im hoping that if he is forced to make a vote on myself again tomorrow it will make him look even more scummy and sympish.
Especially if we can get a lynch on galain.


you get that....?

Omtose, on 22 October 2009 - 03:36 PM, said:

is bargy allowed to tell everyone he was compelled later on....like the day after tomorrow?

From your role: "Infected players are forbidden to divulge or hint at their forced vote until the day has ended."

Omtose, on 22 October 2009 - 03:44 PM, said:

If barghy is lynched then seed Tellan

Omtose, on 22 October 2009 - 03:45 PM, said:

i have changed my mind....

DO seed bargy but dont make him vote anyone just yet.
Im getting ahead of myself i think.

action noted.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 22 October 2009 - 04:08 PM

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Tellan, on 22 October 2009 - 04:33 PM, said:

ok,sodoing a Bargy re-read it's probably reru... meaning, he'll be a Day 1lynch, if thepast experience is anything to go by, sigh.

Olar Ethil, on 22 October 2009 - 04:29 PM, said:

I take back my alt guess. It was all sorts of wrong

Galain, on 22 October 2009 - 04:10 PM, said:

I'm thinking Barg is our noob.....hope he doesn't get me killed.......

Telas, on 22 October 2009 - 04:44 PM, said:

Gottasay, right now, I'm pretty happy with the way things are going. Stillplenty of time left but tons of people are coming to Galain's defense,making him look less like a faction leader. It's probably a good timefor me to 'show back up' and start dropping my analysis.

Right now I'm thinking of going for Barghast, and just crossing my fingers that he's town.

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Korvalain, on 22 October 2009 - 04:52 PM, said:

ypou know what - change provisional to

Investigate Telas

Dont drink tonight

dont ground Bella

Becauseshe might need her NA on night one anyway.... So yeah, just investigateTelas. Ill ground Bella tomorrow, and drink .. and then investigatesomeone...yeah, that will work better I think...

[alt146]

Lordy, I'm not even going to try understand what's going on this game.

Also, I moved the manager to a new (hopefully not retarded) host.

Also Also - I've managed to catch one of the spontaneous avatar change things Hooray for me

[HoosierDaddy]

Lol, Beru's fucking toast. New players always die first. High House Mafia needs an intervention on their hazing practices.

[alt146]

Changed my mind & decided to at least understand the setup - looks very cool, sad that my phone had to die as the game started. Definitely dont have enough time to play such a high TMDI game

Also, I hope Illy has fun - he has an awesome role. Hmm, maybe I shold just not play for a year or two and then demand awesome roles

Sounds like reasonably interesting stuff is happening on thread, poor noobs always stand out like sore thumbs. At least he didnt vote night.

[HoosierDaddy]

Lol, Mafia players are so fucking mean. "Either he's fake symping, or he's symping and failing horribly at it." So, not only are we going to vote you off, we are going to add insult to injury. Meanies!

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Mockra's Message:

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Here's the message I want sent. Can you please look it over and let me know if its Kosher? It's exactly 50 "words" Don't release it once night starts, please wait till i give you the go ahead, things might change, but Just wanted you to have it. God I hope there are no eavesdroppers... or I am basically killing our team lol!!!


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50 words!

Leader=Me=Mockra.

Tellan = Bella. Only I can recruit.

Tomorrow, 3 parapraphs, in second paragraph mention an office supply, color, or animal. thats our team. Finder mention "Water" Killer mention "Phone"

I want know who's who.

I'll post "WOOHOO" if we get Bella. Takes time.

Telas= good Recruit

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Thoughts from Eloth:

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So, here we go.

I'm exactly where I want to be: just after the middle of the train, middle of the posting list, and with 1 roled townie spotted to boot who I am absolutely going to exploit in the coming days, since we don't need to kill him to begin with. The best of it all is, I am all there without a lot of calculation on it all

t45 and me have to communicate a lot more, though... it is not boding well if it remains this silent.

Also, I checked wiki due to town victory conditions (downing all killers, whoch indicates that the scum factions aren't just killers) and all of a sudden I am wondering if we do not have a symp somewhere in Laurent or whatever he may be called.

And that's me for today, I think.

Hope the midterm went well, D'rek!

and with Meanas confirms the kill on Tellan.


And Illybahn puts in his prov:

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I'd like to maim/wound/severely chafe Eloth - he's sensible, which I distinctly remember being a bad sign, and I want to see if anything happens to Galain or Omtose during the night before I make any more decisions.

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Telas orginavizing his thinkyness:

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edit: THIS IS NOT AN ACTION, IT'S JUST A PLACE FOR ME TO ORGANIZE MY THOUGHTS FOR LATER ACTIONS! Don't actually kill anyone!



I'm pretty sure I can get away with sending you anything I want today. I realize I have a super powerful day power that I can use Day 1 (Vigs), but the fact that you are using H&M to co-ordinate means almost certainly eavesdropping/spying on convos. That's dangerous stuff, but I doubt it's going to occur day 1.

That said, I am devising a special list of people that I will want to kill IN THE FUTURE and another list of people I do NOT want to kill, based upon the info gleaned from the thread thus far.

KILL LATER
Omtose - Clearly took offense to the case on him by Galain and probably has a fairly important role or something that seems cool considering how anxious he got to refute the case. Consider him likely a powerful player in another faction, probably not town.

Tellan - Obviously siding with Omtose so can't be a Cullen. Has hinted as possible sympage on Galain. Could be a symp of Omtose's faction, or could be a very active townie... Consider him likely a non-powerful player in another faction, possibly town.

DON'T KILL
Barghast - Clearly new, going to be Day 1's lynch. Let's hope he's not a symp of our faction with his blatant symping. His death will be interesting because if he's town, that gives Galain some breathing room. If he's NOT town but comes up as a powerful member of a faction (Jacob, Laurent, Coven-chick -- yes I did some research on other characters), then it's likely we can call it a fake symp to also give Galain some breathing room. If he's NOT town and comes up a lesser member of a faction, should be interesting to see who jumps on Galain as being a possible master. If he comes up Cullen, I think we're in big trouble [img]http://forum.malazanempire.com/public/style_emoticons/default/;).gif[/img]

Eloth - Currently looking like a symp, possibly Carslisle Cullen.

WATCH
Emurlahn - Very bizarre Day 1 behavior... called Galain probable scum and then voted Barghast instead. Signaling Galain, or just trying to avoid making too many waves?

[HoosierDaddy]

Random bullet-points ftw, there, Shinny. Lol.

[Path-Shaper]

Hey guys, glad you're on to take over shin, I need to go out to supper super soon. Midterm was poopy. I added in the lynch scene and modified the wording of the death a bit (we don't have a coroner so I don't want it to be *too* misleading). I'll be back on before night ends so I can clarify any bits of resolution necessary. Thanks guys!

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Yeah, the whole thing was in bullet points before I realized what happened. I had to make a meeting in 5 minutes, AND make a bunch of handouts at the same time as I was trying to resolve. I deleted most of the bullet points, but that one slipped past me.

Starting in about 2 hours, I'll be able available to mod straight through for the next 8 hours or so.