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Dragon Age: Origins. The Better Thread. just wanted to post this because Erikson is referenced

#361 User is offline   Garak 

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Posted 12 April 2010 - 11:01 AM

Irenicus has the honor of being the first villain I really wanted to take down. He was a great character ("I cannot be caged! I cannot be controlled! Understand this as you die, ever pathetic, ever fools!" - while blasts mages left and right) but my gods, did I cheer when I killed him. Take my soul will you? I don't I've felt such a need to take down a game villain as I felt with Irenicus.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 11:17 AM

Yah, he was awesome as a character, but all in all he was a lot easier to take down than Sarevok in part 1. Then again, it could be me maturing as a gamer on the way that made it easier. I didn't find Kangaxx much challenging either after all. Or Demogorgon for that matter.

Coming back on topic with this, I can't say the Archdemon is an interesting master villain, maybe that's what I didn't like about DA:O. Loghain could serve as that for a bit but I never really wanted to take him down that much. It's amazing what a charismatic villain does for a game.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 11:31 AM

The darkspawn and the Blight were the "villains" in DA:O (and Arl Howe who was an ass). Bioware went with a more... amorphous threat this time, this big evil instead of having it concentrated in one guy. I'm fine either way to be honest. They did try to slap a face on the evil in Awakening with the Architect and the Mother but with the darkspawn I think leaving them as this massive threat is enough. And I didn't see Loghain as a villain really, more like a guy who was trying his best to save his country and he made some bad calls.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 11:35 AM

It was way too impersonal to me, truth be told. Even storylines as basic and straightforward as LotR had some big bad that had at least a bit of fleshing out. The whole Blight seems rather weak to me. Maybe I should play the expac though.

Also. WTB A GORRAM ORIGIN WITH A POINT IN 2 HANDED WEAPONS PLEASE.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 05:27 PM

View PostRaymond Luxury Yacht, on 11 April 2010 - 02:27 AM, said:

MAn, you need to give games more than an hour to get going if they are 60 hours long. Some movies take that long for the plot to get moving, and they're only 90 minutes long!


I played for 4 or 5 hours, actually - bumbling around the first town talking to people and doing quests, then bumbling around in the forest after talking with most of the elves and whatnot. It just wasn't that fun. I also never understood why killing a rat would splash me in gallons of blood.


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View PostTarcanus, on 09 April 2010 - 03:13 PM, said:

At the first hint of micro-management of items, team members, and quests, I get overwhelmed and consequently, bored.


you wussed away you mean.


If that's what you want to call it. I'd rather spend more time in plot progression than managing my items and characters, either that or have a nice balance. After the handful of hours that I played I realized that DA:O was heavier on micromanagement than plot. That's when it really got dull for me.



More power to all of you that loved it, though. There's a person on another forum I visit that has gone so far as to log 200+ hours and start to use a modding tool to tweak the game. That's dedication.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 05:43 PM

View PostGothos, on 12 April 2010 - 11:35 AM, said:

Also. WTB A GORRAM ORIGIN WITH A POINT IN 2 HANDED WEAPONS PLEASE.


You could just cheat to give yourself an extra point/talent. google up some codes, change a line, type, bing bang boom. Or spend hours complaining on the developers site so they patch it in, or spend hours learning how to use the shitty toolset to do it yourself. :D

Also: Kangaxx was a beast. Impossible lies to find him easy unless you reflectobeamed him with the cloak and let him off himself.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 05:54 PM

Protection from Alignment + Energy Disks / Melf's Minature Meteors + make yourself some coffee/beer+munchies. Eeaasssyyy. Probably easier to solo than group tho :D
Adamantite Golems were a lot harder I have to admit. Thank the gods for small passageways they can't fit into!
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 06:10 PM

The two times I tried to kill Kangaxx, he handed my ass back on a silver plate. It was painful - truth be told I didn't try to hard either. Irenicus wasn't that hard, once his defenses were breached all it took was blunt trauma to the head. My fav party was me fighter, Aerie, Viconia, Minsc, Anomer, Yoshimo. Yoshimo then get's replaced with Imoen and in ToB, Anomer or Aerie is replaced with Sarevok (family over other friends). Anyway, guess what spell those three clerics tend to cast when things get nasty -and after they cast protection from evil.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 06:23 PM

View PostGothos, on 12 April 2010 - 05:54 PM, said:

Protection from Alignment + Energy Disks / Melf's Minature Meteors + make yourself some coffee/beer+munchies. Eeaasssyyy. Probably easier to solo than group tho :D
Adamantite Golems were a lot harder I have to admit. Thank the gods for small passageways they can't fit into!


Yeah, well, I seem to remember all sorts of problems ensuing from his 'time stop + instagib 1 + instagib 2 + tentacles of fuck you up hard' which led to 2 people dead, 2 dying and two getting wailed on before I could get any sort of meaningful protection up. But I'm a play the game I'm playing, not prepare for the game I played kinda gal.

best I ever did against him playing it straight was 3 dead (but revivable, thank fuck) and ended up using Jahiera's big bad elemental to punch his face off after he confused and violated my mage who was diligently working to shear through his defenses.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 08:21 PM

The trick with him is to get someone to be immune to imprison, he'll keep trying to cast that. It's just adapting after the first failiure.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 08:29 PM

I'd get awful fuckin bored playing games like that. Much rather beat a tough enemy in a straight up fight than exploit its set-in-stone spell priorities.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 09:07 PM

I'm not fond of carrying piles of scrolls to get my team out of Imprison... I hate using consumables.
Plus, tactics are key. Spells are in place for a reason. Tools to be used in mysterious ways.
However, stuff like sticking X spike traps under Demogorgon's spawn spot are just cheap shots. Then again, soloing party-of-six games takes a special approach.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 09:11 PM

Can't you just Banish Demogorgon? Or was that with the baddy in NWNs x-pac?
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 09:14 PM

Uh, dunno about that really, memory not even flashing the red light.

Speaking of the NWN2 xpac, I never got around to finishing it. I guess I was getting a tad annoyed with it after spending over 2 hours trying to make it work properly during character creation...
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Posted 24 May 2010 - 01:51 PM

ok this is interesting
On Steam:

Dragon Age: Origins - 49,99€
Dragon Age: Origins + Prima Official Strategy Guide - 37,48€


As outrageous as the game's price is... they're selling the package for way less. Why keep the game's price this high?! odd.

Also, Awakening costing 29,99€ makes me a sad panda... Can anyone tell me if it's worth the obnoxiously bloated price?
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 02:33 AM

Anyone buy the Darkspawn Chronicles yet and have an opinion on it?
I've been considering it since I own all the other DLC but I do not want another 30 minute mission like Return to Ostagar.
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 11:37 AM

Been wanting this game forever. Was hoping for some kind of DLC bundle or expansion pack bundle to come out. Does not look like its happening. So I found it for a decent price thinking of making the jump. However I wanted to check is the stone prisoner still free with new copies. I read somewhere that this was only so till april 30 2010.
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 02:54 PM

View PostStalker, on 25 May 2010 - 02:33 AM, said:

Anyone buy the Darkspawn Chronicles yet and have an opinion on it?
I've been considering it since I own all the other DLC but I do not want another 30 minute mission like Return to Ostagar.


Nope. Haven't gotten any DLC at all for this game, although I might eventually if I get back into it.
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 03:03 PM

Yeah, i'm like Cause, i'm hoping if i wait long enough and the company stops making add ons they'll bundle them all and sell'em cheap.

But it'll prob take a while.
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 11:48 PM

I love this game but haven't bought any of the dlc yet. Price will drop eventually.
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