[gaex]

Hi everybody

Who is he?
Singing along in the bar.
Philosophing with Duiker.

And then killing a handful of assassins just like that....
Is that consistent or what?

Anybody knows anything about his - probably dreadful - past?

Cheers

gaex
+hookedonthebookofthefallen+

[Silk]

The Poet is the god of poets is my interpretation... an ascendant being who is around all the major happenings .... and imortal

[Bauchelain the Evil]

Fisher is the poet who has written most of the poems that open the books' chapters ( Anoadaris, The Chaining etc) and obviosly an Ascendant

[haroos]

Bauchelain the Evil, on 21 September 2009 - 04:22 PM, said:

Fisher is the poet who has written most of the poems that open the books' chapters ( Anoadaris, The Chaining etc) and obviosly an Ascendant

well, since his songs span hundreds of thousands of years, then perhaps he is the god of time, or someone who chronicles ... stuff.

[Aptorian]

I agree with the assessment that he is probably an ascendant who specializes in arts or something abstract like that. How ever, just because we've heard him describe events way back in time does not mean that he has to have been there. The man is among many things a scholar, he can have read many forgotten works, among them Gothos own work, he may even have had a beer or two with an old timer like Anomander Rake and shared some cool stories about kicking Ossercs ass and boinking Envy.

[D'rek]

Or any of a billion other explanations. He's a minor mage, not very potent but enough to be extremely long-lived / he was a refugee of the Kallorian Empire who fled before Kallor burned it and brought a supply of Centruy Candles with him / he consults with seers and witches to view events from long ago / etc etc

[Crimsonblade]

I kept thinking that he was K'rul in disguise, keeping tabs on his old temple.

[chaosek]

I thought he might be the fisherman from NoK. I believe it is mentioned somewhere that he was supposed to be (or thought to be) dead.

[Aptorian]

That connection has been discussed before. Besides sharing a name/title/nickname there's nothing else that suggests they are the same.

And the Fisherman is dead. Obo and Agyala felt it or felt the lack of "it".

[D'rek]

...and also the fisherman in NoK is only a Fisher by his profession. He has a real name - Tomin (or maybe Tomen, something like that anyway).

[Bauchelain the Evil]

Tobin to be precise and yes he's dead. Agayla tells Tayschrenn that he had ben overcome.

[Fredimus]

Fisher definately is a potent being that has been alive for a long time. My own humble guess would be that he is some anciant deity, kinda like the Errant. Mostly a witness that will sometime "land a hand or two"...

[gaex]

Maybe he is the authors in-book avatar.....
Writing horrible poesy and keeping SE informed on what goes on in the bars.

Cheers

gaex

[Salt-Man Z]

Have there ever been any theories (or has anyone even wondered) why some poems/fragments are ascribed to "Fisher tel Kath" (or in Esslemont's case, "Fisher kel Tath" ) while others are signed merely "Fisher"?

[WhiskeyJackDaniels]

Salt-Man Z, on 05 October 2009 - 07:48 PM, said:

Have there ever been any theories (or has anyone even wondered) why some poems/fragments are ascribed to "Fisher tel Kath" (or in Esslemont's case, "Fisher kel Tath" ) while others are signed merely "Fisher"?

Well we know he's been around for awhile, so it could be that some of his works survived only as fragments, so it could be they could only read the first part of his name. Or the 'tel Kath' part means something, like it was added for something he did, and the works that are just Fisher, were composed before the unknown event happened. Or we've seen some fluidity with names (Anomander Rake, Anomandaris, Anomander Dragnipurake...Osserc, Oscric, Liossercal...) so it could just be that.






...or I guess it could be something really cool, like he pulled a Ho.

[Silencer]

Heh. If he is as old as he could be, then it'd be a case rather like Anomander/Osserc. Otherwise it would simply be a case of him not always signing it with his full name, no? Or maybe he got married. D:

One would have to hazard a guess that the entire reason he was in Darujhistan was to get the Chain of Dogs story, and witness Rake's death.

[amphibian]

WhiskeyJackDaniels, on 06 October 2009 - 02:56 AM, said:

...or I guess it could be something really cool, like he pulled a Ho.

Man, I'd like to pull a Ho. Push too....

There may have been more than one Fisher in whatever locality or compilation the poem/fragment is in. The "kel Tath" may be a distinguisher on the level of "Pliny the Elder/Younger". This is pure speculation that may be just plain wrong. We've seen no other Fisher in the books up to Toll the Hounds thus far.

This post has been edited by amphibian: 06 October 2009 - 03:54 AM

[Kruppe of Darujhistan]

Okay, I'm probably going to be lambasted for this opinion, but I suspect that Fisher is none other than Toc the Elder.

Why Duiker (who was taught to read and write by Toc the E.) doesn't recognize him as such is problematic, I know.

[WhiskeyJackDaniels]

Kruppe of Darujhistan, on 23 October 2009 - 04:32 PM, said:

Okay, I'm probably going to be lambasted for this opinion, but I suspect that Fisher is none other than Toc the Elder.

Why Duiker (who was taught to read and write by Toc the E.) doesn't recognize him as such is problematic, I know.

Why?

I mean...he's not, but I'm curious how you came up with that.

[Kruppe of Darujhistan]

When Hood met Toc the Younger at Hood's gate, Toc asked about his dear old dad. Hood said something like, "Oh, he's not here YET," implying that Toc the E. was still among the living and running around somewhere. Toc the Y. is a poet of sorts.

Then, along comes Fisher the poet out of nowhere. Duiker asks Fisher what his name is and Fisher says, "Just call me Fisher, that'll be good enough."

So I get the impression that Fisher is going to be revealed as someone we've met or have heard tell of as the story has unfolded. Who is he? Who knows? Maybe Toc the Elder.

Duiker should recognize Fisher as Toc the Elder if that is indeed who he is, but he doesn't. But sorcery might explain that. Or his soul transferred to a different body as coincidently happened to Toc the Younger when he got shunted into Anaster's husk.