[alt146]

Silencer, on 09 September 2009 - 07:28 PM, said:

DiBs is totally going to give out no scum roles and just watch us scramble..

I would not be surpirised in the least.

[Hinter]

HoosierDaddy, on 09 September 2009 - 07:30 PM, said:

*snip... but buy guarding ...*snip*

I can buy a guard? Where? How much?

[HoosierDaddy]

Pedantic Bear says you are asking for a vig sandwich for dinner, Hinter.

[Hinter]

HoosierDaddy, on 09 September 2009 - 07:34 PM, said:

Pedantic Bear says you are asking for a vig sandwich for dinner, Hinter.

Couldn't resist it HD!

[Vengeance]

Ohhhh we have started.. I would like to point out that I resisted asking for a vig. Pb you especially should thank me...

[Peanutbutta]

Haha, I don't mind being vigged "in general." It's actually a compliment. Plus, added bonus of being RI means I don't have to worry about town losing a soooooper power in my death.

[HoosierDaddy]

If anyone vigs night one, it was Sixty, not me.

[Vengeance]

Peanutbutta, on 09 September 2009 - 07:59 PM, said:

Haha, I don't mind being vigged "in general." It's actually a compliment. Plus, added bonus of being RI means I don't have to worry about town losing a soooooper power in my death.

That is the kind of logic that scum uses. As such you are scum....

[Vengeance]

HoosierDaddy, on 09 September 2009 - 08:07 PM, said:

If anyone vigs night one, it was Sixty, not me.

Your the day one vig... Got it

[Peanutbutta]

I kind of wonder if scum get to keep their existing role. Dibs originally said this:

Dibs said:

the killers will be chosen at random regardless of what other role they may possess.

Would mean vigs are the most dangerous scum role to have if they could do both. Could end the game very quickly.

We have 9 town 3 scum.
If all 3 scum can vig, they vig right now (today) and the game is immediately over, so we can throw that scenario out b/c that would be a pretty unfair distro


With 2 scum as vigs, this scenario is very difficult for town. A single wrong lynch today and no scum deaths overnight, scum vig out the win in the day tomorrow. We could no lynch, but then scum just see if their kill goes through to the same effect. This scenario is not entirely impossible for town simply because that means town has SIX people who can possibly stop a kill, although they can possibly interfere with each other, too. Still, I imagine Dibs wouldn't allow a distribution where 2 vigs are scum because it's way too easy for the game to end in a single Day through one wrong lynch.


So in essence, I'm saying that:
HD/DK/Ment - IMO, if any of them are scum, it's only going to be one of them. Day CFs don't exist, so we can't do anything silly like ask them to vig each other.

edit: New board editor requires a slightly more verbose syntax for on-the-fly quotes.

This post has been edited by Peanutbutta: 09 September 2009 - 08:15 PM

[Peanutbutta]

Vengeance, on 09 September 2009 - 08:08 PM, said:

Peanutbutta, on 09 September 2009 - 07:59 PM, said:

Haha, I don't mind being vigged "in general." It's actually a compliment. Plus, added bonus of being RI means I don't have to worry about town losing a soooooper power in my death.

That is the kind of logic that scum uses. As such you are scum....

Hey man, I don't mind your logic. I did try a lot of tricks last time to win so no hard feelings. But I think we both know the odds of me surviving to the end of this game either from the lynch temptation (from the Dethy game or maybe the Lies game if you remember that nail-biter) or the vig temptation are virtually 0.

I don't expect to live, just saying it like it is.

[HoosierDaddy]

After the amount of bitching I gave Sixty in the YTR game for vigging night one, I'd be the biggest hypocrite ever if I did so, Veng. It's just my first vig role, so I'm fairly excited.

[Bent]

This was supposed to start tomorrow, I never got a pm, so I am saying that there is no scum.

Vote night

I always wanted to vote night seriously, this is the first chance i ever got to.

[HoosierDaddy]

There may be no scum as of right now, Bent, but no matter what, some action is going to create scum. Anybody think it might have something to do with a lynch train (ala Highlander power ups) or the use of a power?

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 24 hours and 20 minutes remaining

12 Players still alive: alt, bent, dk, gavin, hinter, hoosierdaddy, mappo, ment, pb, silencer, tapper, veng

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night

1 vote for pb: ( alt )
1 vote for Night: ( bent )

Players not voted: dk, gavin, hinter, hoosierdaddy, mappo, ment, pb, silencer, tapper, veng


the scum have been selected and informed. they were informed the moment the game started. the scum retain all abilities held before.

[HoosierDaddy]

DiBs posted at 12:49 that he was sending out scum roles and the first post here is 6 minutes after that. So, either you were all like me and didn't read the sign up thread after signing up, or you are tricksome hobbits and sneaky.

[Bent]

Path-Shaper, on 09 September 2009 - 08:53 PM, said:

the scum have been selected and informed. they were informed the moment the game started. the scum retain all abilities held before.

nevermind then.

Remove Vote

[Tapper]

Wow, I figured I would be the last one to log in tomorrow and promptly find myself lynched for lulz and epicness. Thank god dibs started the game today.

Is there any direct way we can prevent scum from winning? All healers healing one another, for example? If any healer then dies, it means that the guy supposed to heal him, didn't, a clear scum indication - or was guarded, in which case, we also know where to look, I guess.

[Peanutbutta]

HoosierDaddy, on 09 September 2009 - 09:03 PM, said:

DiBs posted at 12:49 that he was sending out scum roles and the first post here is 6 minutes after that. So, either you were all like me and didn't read the sign up thread after signing up, or you are tricksome hobbits and sneaky.

Well I was the last person to sign up so I figured Dibsy would start the game pretty quickly, which is why I posted pretty early.

Tapper, on 09 September 2009 - 09:23 PM, said:

Wow, I figured I would be the last one to log in tomorrow and promptly find myself lynched for lulz and epicness. Thank god dibs started the game today.

Is there any direct way we can prevent scum from winning? All healers healing one another, for example? If any healer then dies, it means that the guy supposed to heal him, didn't, a clear scum indication - or was guarded, in which case, we also know where to look, I guess.

Dibs indicated that all scum keep their other roles. That means any scum healer would just heal their correct target and kill someone else in the meantime. Guarding would be effective except I know that Dibs is a big advocate of so-called "pairing" in which you can't guard the scum unless you guard them all, so the only way we'd catch them is if all of the scum were guards and even then, they'd just guard someone else and make it look like the guards are not scum.

I kind of think that the best possible action involves the following:

• vote night
• use all 3 vigs tonight on RIs because they are HUGE wifom right now without any extra powers
• all 3 healers healing the 3 vigs
• all 3 guards guarding each other
• We'll get 3 CFs tonight on the RIs (probably one scum in the group, although a symp would be possible), an additional 'town' CF on one of the healers or guards (from the scum night kill)
• The healers and guards can work with the 3 spent-vigs (minus whichever person dies) and you can figure out who to vote off tomorrow
• It will be 8 players left alive so that means WCS it's D-Day and you have to lynch right, but having 5-6 healers/guards still alive can help that out, even though there's a good chance AT LEAST one of them is scum, if not two.

[Vengeance]

Tapper, on 09 September 2009 - 09:23 PM, said:

Wow, I figured I would be the last one to log in tomorrow and promptly find myself lynched for lulz and epicness. Thank god dibs started the game today.

Is there any direct way we can prevent scum from winning? All healers healing one another, for example? If any healer then dies, it means that the guy supposed to heal him, didn't, a clear scum indication - or was guarded, in which case, we also know where to look, I guess.

The guards and the vigs, could do the same thing. For that matter the scum could also follow along. That way the game would end with a bang and quickly.

The only problem that I see with your scenario is that if there is a scum healer then he could go ahead and heal the other healer and still kill someone. Thereby setting a guard or other healer up to be lynched the next day.

Cross post with PB...

This post has been edited by Vengeance: 09 September 2009 - 09:49 PM