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#1 User is offline   Morgoth 

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Posted 24 August 2009 - 09:28 PM

Right, as we're still not covered for players


1 - Killer - Mentalist - D'riss
2 - Killer - Hinter - Eloth
3 - Symp (healer/guard) - Obdigore - Korvalain
4 - SK finder - Shin - Kessobahn
5 - RI - Grief - Hood's Path
6 - Healer - DiBs - Rashan
7 - Guard - Alt - Galain
8 - Ascendant (bp/vig) - Vengeance - Galayn Lord
9 - RI - D'rek - Anomandaris
10 - RI - Baudin - Ruse
11 - RI - Mappo - Barghast
11 - RI - Sixty - Serc
13 - Serial killer (1 kill every other night) - Silencer - Emurlahn

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Path-Shaper - pathos
MM - pathos

D'riss - frank
Barghast - loue
Eloth - frank
Hood's Path - loue
Korvalain - frank
Kessobahn - loue
Emurlahn - frank
Rashan - loue
Galain - frank
Anomandaris - loue
Galayn Lord - frank
Ruse - loue
Serc - frank



DiBs
Alt
Shinshinshin
D'rek'
mappo II
Obdi
Vengyboy
Hinter
Baudin
Grief
Sixty
Silencer
Ment


Actions

Night 1:

Killers
D'riss: confirm
Eloth: Galayn Lord -- fails, Galayn Lord loses BP and gains a single vig

Symp:
Korvalain:

SK:
Emurlahn: none possible

Innos:
Kessobahn (SK finder) - Eloth (if lynched, find on Barghast) -- returns NOT serial killer
Rashan (healer) - Ruse -- succeeds, but no effect
Galain (guard) - D'riss -- fails, D'riss has a partner

Night 2:

D'riss + Eloth (killers): Kessobahn (suceeds, Kessobahn dies)

Korvalain (symp guard+heal): (no action)

Emurlahn (SK): Korv > Kesso (succeeds, Korv dies)

Innos:
Kessobahn (SK finder) - Serc > Ruse (irrelevant due to Kesso's death | Serc returns NOT serial killer)
Rashan (healer) - Ruse (succeeds with no effect)
Galain (guard) - D'riss (fails, D'riss is paired)
Galayn Lord (vig) - Anomandaris (succeeds, Anomandaris dies)

Night 3:

D'riss + Eloth (killers): Rashan

Emurlahn (SK): (no action possible tonight)

Innos:
Rashan (healer) - Heal GL
Galain (guard) - Ruse

Night 4:

D'riss + Eloth (killers): Ruse

Innos:
Galain (guard) - (lynched)

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Posted 24 August 2009 - 09:34 PM

Four scum from two teams in 12 players? Seems a bit stacked against town. Does the SK finder recruit the SK to town?
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Posted 24 August 2009 - 11:15 PM

View PostPeanutbutta, on Aug 24 2009, 11:34 PM, said:

Four scum from two teams in 12 players? Seems a bit stacked against town. Does the SK finder recruit the SK to town?


No, he only finds the sk..

The things is though that the SK is the killers biggest enemy, and vice versa. As long as the SK lives the killers can't win, and as long as the killers live, the sk can't be safe. So I assume the sk and killers will work against each other as much as they can.

The innos have the bp/vig, a healer and a guard. All in all a strong setup for them. The additional healer in the symp-soldier should actually be more problematic for the killers than a pure symp I think, but that remains to be seen. Preferably I'd want another RI though
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Posted 25 August 2009 - 01:31 AM

Is the symp a healer, a guard, or both?

Does the SK finder know he can only find the SK?

This game will go down as an easy scum team victory IMO. You say the killers are working against each other, but the SK only helps the killer team out because he's much more likely to cull town every night and he's only got one life whereas the scum have a healer helping them out. Plus, the SK has a dedicated finder. So when the SK is found, grats, he dies, but then the scum team shaved a few nights off with his help.

Let's put it this way, the game can end in 3 nights for the scum.
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Posted 25 August 2009 - 06:09 AM

He is both. So his action both heals and guards the target
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Posted 25 August 2009 - 06:18 AM

Alright well, the addition of a 13th player should help the balance a bit. I'm going to early-limb call SK dead Night 3, Scum Win Day 5.
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Posted 25 August 2009 - 07:05 AM

yeah, the balance depends very much on whether they can get a killer fairly early. From that moment on the Symp-soldier is a problem rather than a clear cut benefit


Also, silencer as a SK will make this interesting no doubt
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Posted 25 August 2009 - 07:11 AM

Looks nice. It all depends on a killer being found, though... and Grief realizing he's pnoid.
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Posted 25 August 2009 - 07:14 AM

View PostTapper, on Aug 25 2009, 09:11 AM, said:

Looks nice. It all depends on a killer being found, though... and Grief realizing he's pnoid.


Aye, the killers may have an easy win, but that means the innos played poorly in my opinion.
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Posted 25 August 2009 - 07:16 AM

If you'd want to make 1 change -this goes for the both of you - what would you do?
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Posted 25 August 2009 - 07:34 AM

View PostMorgoth, on Aug 25 2009, 09:16 AM, said:

If you'd want to make 1 change -this goes for the both of you - what would you do?

remove the paranoid finder and make him an RI instead, I think.
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Posted 25 August 2009 - 07:39 AM

View PostTapper, on Aug 25 2009, 09:34 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on Aug 25 2009, 09:16 AM, said:

If you'd want to make 1 change -this goes for the both of you - what would you do?

remove the paranoid finder and make him an RI instead, I think.


hm, all right. I can see how that would make it better. The result would've been fun, but alas
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Posted 25 August 2009 - 07:41 AM

View PostMorgoth, on Aug 25 2009, 09:39 AM, said:

View PostTapper, on Aug 25 2009, 09:34 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on Aug 25 2009, 09:16 AM, said:

If you'd want to make 1 change -this goes for the both of you - what would you do?

remove the paranoid finder and make him an RI instead, I think.


hm, all right. I can see how that would make it better. The result would've been fun, but alas

yup, but it is a role you use to weaken town without strengthening scum, imho - and I actually think town could use a boost right now :p
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Posted 25 August 2009 - 08:15 AM

that's done then, the game has begun
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Posted 25 August 2009 - 08:20 AM

Silencer said:

Nice! Thanks for this, Morgy. Just an fyi in advance, I'm going to bed in two hours, then I won't be on until about 4 hours behind the current time now tomorrow. That's quite a big gap, but I've got two exams in a row, and don't have time to pop home in between. Haven't checked what the modkill is, but if it's less than 18 hours I'm screwed. XD

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It's been too long since you had company. The silence, the silence got too much, even for you. Now there's fun to be had, peace to bring and you plan to enjoy it to the very last.

You're a Forkrul Assail, the Serial Killer of this game and a faction all on your own. Every other night, starting night 2, you can send the name of one alt to the mods to be killed. Standard rules for the kill apply.

You win if you're one of two players left alive. The killer faction cannot win while you're still alive.

You will CF as Serial Killer.


It's 36h, and so it will be all right :p
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Posted 25 August 2009 - 08:52 AM

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While the other priests fashioned reputations of ruthelessnes, plotters and schemers, you quickly became knowns as a thing of love. Where others tear down, murder and burn. You love, nurture and rebuild.

You're a healer of the innocent faction. Standard rules apply.


i am fucked then.


when was the last time you played healer? I was quite amused to be honest :p


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How can these fools be so blind? The only way to survive is to be but a couple of priest. Few enough to go unnoticed through this realm. Your large group has already attracted one inhabitant. There's only a question when more will be drawn to this ridiculous group of old men.

You are a killer. Standard rules apply. Your partner is D'riss

Yay, my first time as scum!

I'm allowed to pm D'riss right?


communicate with him as much as you want, it is perhaps your strongest advantage :p
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Posted 25 August 2009 - 10:13 AM

Hintoth said:

Emurlahn = Silencer?

He tends to put XD in a lot of his posts on the main forum

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Posted 25 August 2009 - 10:35 AM

well, this certainly has gone slow
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Posted 25 August 2009 - 12:46 PM

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You're dull witted and slow, but you're good at watching things. For hours you can watch unblinking, not a thought pushing through your tiny mind. It is a curse perhaps, but also a great gift.

You are a guard of the innocent faction. Standard rules apply


Yes, but what about my character?

Cool, going to have a look what's what in thread.



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Unlike your bretheren, you have an inclination as to what's hunting you. You know this place, or at least, you have seen it. You've seen what's hunting you and though you're terrified, you also believe that, given time, you can lure it out in the open.

You are the SK finder of the innocents. Every night you can send in the alt of a player to the mods to investigate. The result of your investigation will be serial killer / not serial killer.



I need to come up with a clever plan in the event I find the SK since that info helps scum as well as town.


Some alt guesses, which I don't normally bother doing:

D'riss is dibs
Emur is Silencer
Ruse is Grief
Rashan is Sixty
Eloth is Alt

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Posted 25 August 2009 - 01:03 PM

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You're an old, worn priests. Your powers have long since left you, but your mind remains intact. More or less.

You're RI. Enjoy.


Nope. My mind is not intact. Time for craziness.

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