[Path-Shaper]

I've gotta prepare for tomorrow and hit the sack. See you all in 8-10 hours.

[Thyrllan]

Ok I'm here.

I won't be back before the deadline and I have like 15 minutes, but I am all caught up.

Leaning towards voting Emurlahn right now, but GL looks funky too.

[Thyrllan]

Ok.
Vote Emurlahn

I need sleeps.

[Ampelas]

I'm going to bed (extremely slow day, it seems) and my previous position on GL remains more or less the same. Ruse has also compiled a big case that follows my line of thought.

Vote Galayn Lord

[Kaschan]

I am going to

Remove Vote.

I don't like anyone being L-2 at this point in the day.

Thyrllan, you have been fairly decisive throughout the game so far in your opinions. Why Emurlahn over Galayn Lord or me?

Edit: Day ends at 7:00 a.m. my time, meaning 6 hours are left. Thyrllan left 2:45 ago, so I completely buy his not being here. Doesn't answer my question though. Am I on my own in seeing this anomaly?

Edit 2: Nevermind. I'm drunk. He ain't going to be around when day comes back anyways. He's probably voting for approximately the same reason I am, so forget about it. I confuse myself.

This post has been edited by Kaschan: 30 July 2009 - 05:00 AM

[Karatallid]

All right, just signing on for a short bit with some thoughts, more to try to work things out in my mind than anything:

We have 9 people. The consensus is 3 scum, although it's possible this is incorrect. Unless things are more convoluted than I think, HP and Thyr are either both inno or both scum. It is possible for them to be the latter since they could be able to communicate off thread and have cooked this up together.
Assuming for the moment that those two are inno, and that it is indeed 3 scum, my top picks for scum are

Emurlahn (who I'm voting for)
Ampelas
Galayn Lord


with Kaschan and D'riss as possibles too. Ruse, well, with the low posting there isn't much I can say about that. There's something about the play of D'riss that makes me a little less inclined to believe he's scum.

If Amp is scum, that could possibly rule out GL since Amp has been one-track minded about voting him aside from switching to the Serc train. His case on GL was for summarizing and being middle of the road. However, other than voting GL and joining the Serc train, Amp has done a lot of helping in the form of talking about the characters and storyline. I just did a reread of posts, and there isn't much content to be honest.

So in terms of 3 person scum sets I would put it like this:

HP, Thyr and Amp or GL
Emur, Kaschan and Amp or GL

And as I said, if Ruse and D'riss are scum, well, then I've been fooled. If Amp and GL are paired, I've also been fooled.

At the moment, if I were to switch my vote to anyone, it would be Ampelas because he's here often enough but laying low and is also laying behind a case on GL he's brought over from day 1. He also said in no uncertain terms in a recent post that there are 3 scum, which stands to reason based on the setup, but the fact he doesn't qualify that statement makes me wonder.

[Hood's Path]

by your reckoning the only common factor is amp and gl, so why vote for emur in that case?

As aside i am hammered in work at mo, but think we have a few hours where decisions can be made.

[Karatallid]

True, but I don't know which one.

edited to add: I'm not going to be on for a bit, but I'll be back before deadline.

This post has been edited by Karatallid: 30 July 2009 - 08:24 AM

[Galayn Lord]

So the case against me, by Ruse no less(!) is that I am playing nice? Well at least my case on Kaschan got you to say something.

I don't understand what people want in this game. I try to make cases and I back them up with votes, but apparently that's middle of the road. Okay, I don't swear and 'f' and blind. That isn't my style, and I haven't the energy to alt hide at the moment. I am also not into getting into arguments for the sake of it. I will challenge, and have done, where I see something I don't like, but I am not going to be nasty about it. As to my idea on day 1 of the possible group of scum, I was wrong obviously, but really was my thinking that far out? Oh, and being calm is a fault now as well, excuse me, but somebody needed to be, they were all getting their knickers in such a twist.

But it does strike me as interesting that the thing that appears to wake Ruse up is my case on Kaschan.

[Galayn Lord]

Also, nice stab at strwamanning me Ruse. My case against Kaschan was not that he was wishy washy. It was that he hadn't posted any content and, aside from you, was the only one not to have done so.

[Hood's Path]

Galayn Lord, on Jul 30 2009, 09:46 AM, said:

So the case against me, by Ruse no less(!) is that I am playing nice? Well at least my case on Kaschan got you to say something.

I don't understand what people want in this game. I try to make cases and I back them up with votes, but apparently that's middle of the road. Okay, I don't swear and 'f' and blind. That isn't my style, and I haven't the energy to alt hide at the moment. I am also not into getting into arguments for the sake of it. I will challenge, and have done, where I see something I don't like, but I am not going to be nasty about it. As to my idea on day 1 of the possible group of scum, I was wrong obviously, but really was my thinking that far out? Oh, and being calm is a fault now as well, excuse me, but somebody needed to be, they were all getting their knickers in such a twist.

But it does strike me as interesting that the thing that appears to wake Ruse up is my case on Kaschan.

being calm is never a problem, you have seen how well my erratic behaviour has worked out at this moment i am more worried by kara. I dont see how you can make a case with two sets of subjects and put two common players in both sets then vote for one of the unknowns. We have 9 players, two of us are PI to most. so out of seven players we have 3 evils and for the rest of you thats 3 out of six (your the seventh) so you should have a fair idea where you feel the scum should be.

as for ruse ia m glad he came back and made a case as there has been precious little to use, but lynching him will give us practically no info so he will have to go for the sidelines.

lynching driss will give info only on emurlahn (for the case)

lynching ampelas will show info regarding the case he made, bith times on gl. he could have put another on emur, interesting that he didnt. if scum it would imply emur is as well in my mind.

lynching emur would give info regarding the day 1 debacle, showing badly on both ampelas and driss but good on kaschan, thyr and kara if he came up guilty.

not sure what info we would get from kara, he has been very middle of the road, though if guilty it would make emur less likely as he voted that way today.

lynching gl would ive info about ruse, kashcan and ampelas.

Gl has a good track record of hiding under the radar as a killer while being bad at choosing night kills. i can see why the killers thought it a good idea to leave me out there as possible lynch and driss certainly laboured that point.

vote emurlahn

i think we will get more useful info from his lynch. thyrllan is the only player i trust and he voted emurlahn. if guilty it implicates a section of players, if inno it removes attention from players.

[Hood's Path]

thats l-2 with less than two hours remaining. hopefully emur will be on before deadline to offer his opinions.

[Emurlahn]

Ok now, im going to vote for GL, i think that the case on him from Ruse definitely has some merit, as he is definitely trying hard to stay away from any confrontation with other players and i could definitely see him trying to hide in amongst people.
Remove vote
Vote GL

[Emurlahn]

Oh and HP what else did you want to know, ive commented abit on karats case against me which i dont really see what hes trying to get at so is there anything else you want to talk about?

[Hood's Path]

Emurlahn, on Jul 30 2009, 10:58 AM, said:

Oh and HP what else did you want to know, ive commented abit on karats case against me which i dont really see what hes trying to get at so is there anything else you want to talk about?

i actually want your opinion on the links between people and who you feel is the best case for a lynch and why. io am voting for you mostly because theres a possibility you are scum and worst case even if your not it will give me info on others. if you feel theres a strong lynch candidate coupled with someone that even if inno gives us a lot of info let me know.

[Galayn Lord]

Emurlahn, on Jul 30 2009, 10:56 AM, said:

Ok now, im going to vote for GL, i think that the case on him from Ruse definitely has some merit, as he is definitely trying hard to stay away from any confrontation with other players and i could definitely see him trying to hide in amongst people.
Remove vote
Vote GL

Oh yeah, because you've been sooo in every one's face all game.

There are some serious attempts at deflection going on here. I will say it once again - I swear I am inno. But I am not about to go emo, if you want me to be aggressive and swear a lot, then hard luck. I don't play that way, but I really love all the instances of pots and kettles in this game.

[Emurlahn]

Well apart from you and thyrllan which for this im going to assume innocence. We have D'riss, amp , kaschan, Karat and GL. Ruse hasnt been on enough from to really draw anything from other than hes not linked with GL.
GL not with kaschan because of the vote
Amp not with GL.
This leaves a D'riss and Karat (or Ruse) possibility if GL is guilty. I could see either of these being scum i think, karat was abit middle of the road yesterday until pushed and today came on and straight away made a flimsy case on the person voting D'riss (linking them more) and then theres D'riss' actions in the night which i still dont like, so if GL is guilty im happy to go for either of them i think
Apart from that im not sure il have to go back further to do a more detailed look to see if i can find links with D'riss, amp, kaschan or karat, which may take a bit longer.

[Hood's Path]

the current voting is

3 Votes Emurlahn (Karatallid, thyr, hp)
1 Vote Kaschan (Glayn Lord)
3 Vote Galayn Lord (Ruse, emur, ampelas)

[Hood's Path]

looking at the time we only have 25 minutes.

[Galayn Lord]

Well in that case I have no bloody choice do I?

Remove Vote

Vote Emurlahn