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Mafia 50: The Yellow Turban Rebellion Long live the Way of Peace

#461 User is offline   D'riss 

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 11:01 AM

View PostKaratallid, on Jul 29 2009, 12:00 PM, said:

View PostD'riss, on Jul 29 2009, 10:58 AM, said:

I'm around. I'm in agreement with Kara, it's too ambiguous, now we don't know whether or not he got the ability, which is rather concerning.

However, i'd like to hear from him, because if he did or didn't get the ability is something that's important.


What could he possibly say to convince you either way?


Doesn't matter what he says. I just want him to tell whether or not he got the ability.

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 11:46 AM

Well I would have thought this would be a high traffic time, but no one's here...

I'll be around for anyone who shows up.

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 12:09 PM

It is now Day 2. 22 hours, 50 minutes remaining.

10 players still alive: Ampelas, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Karatallid, Kaschan, Omtose, Ruse, Thyrllan

6 votes to lynch. 5 to go to night.

1 Vote for Thyrlan (Hoods Path)


Players not voted: Ampelas, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galayn Lord, Karatallid, Kaschan, Omtose, Ruse, Thyrllan

D'rek is with you once more. Remember, you can always ask *me* for knowledgeable answers about characters and stuff. Whether my knowledge is 100% correct historically doesn't matter because I made the game off my knowledge, anyways...

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 29 July 2009 - 12:10 PM

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 29 July 2009 - 12:27 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on Jul 29 2009, 01:09 PM, said:

D'rek is with you once more. Remember, you can always ask *me* for knowledgeable answers about characters and stuff. Whether my knowledge is 100% correct historically doesn't matter because I made the game off my knowledge, anyways...


Ah, but where's the fun in that?

Besides, we can hardly ask you "Is Dong Zhuo the Quartermaster?" can we.

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 12:30 PM

Is Dong Zhuo the Quartermaster? :)

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 12:37 PM

View PostD'riss, on Jul 29 2009, 08:27 AM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on Jul 29 2009, 01:09 PM, said:

D'rek is with you once more. Remember, you can always ask *me* for knowledgeable answers about characters and stuff. Whether my knowledge is 100% correct historically doesn't matter because I made the game off my knowledge, anyways...


Ah, but where's the fun in that?

Besides, we can hardly ask you "Is Dong Zhuo the Quartermaster?" can we.



You can ask but I won't answer that kinda thing. But for example you could ask "Who is this Sun Jian fellow?" or "Did Yuan Shao wear funny hats?"
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 29 July 2009 - 12:38 PM

Omtose (Silencer) has been modkilled. He was Huangfu Song of the Han.
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Posted 29 July 2009 - 12:39 PM

It is Day 2. 22 hours, 21 minutes remaining.

9 players still alive: Ampelas, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Karatallid, Kaschan, Ruse, Thyrllan

5 votes to lynch. 5 to go to night.

1 Vote for Thyrlan (Hoods Path)


Players not voted: Ampelas, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galayn Lord, Karatallid, Kaschan, Ruse, Thyrllan

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 29 July 2009 - 01:15 PM

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 12:53 PM

Booo silencer, booo.

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 12:54 PM

he was posting earlier, thats very odd.

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 12:55 PM

Well right now, im torn while i think HP's reveal is utter BS and has lots of holes in most of what hes saying that doesnt necessarily make him scum, im inclined to think he may be an inno who just pulled a useful role out of his arse so he wasnt lynched. D'riss on the other hand im not liking right now, all the talk during night was not useful and could definitely have been harmful, its never a good idea to speculate about the kills and lynch plans during the night period as this just allows scum more possibilities of WIFOM and similar and could easily be signalling to masters or partners. So right now until i see a good justification of this
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Posted 29 July 2009 - 01:00 PM

However, that is a pointless argument(the first bit). Yes, it may be unstrategic play, allowing scum WIFOM chances, and yet it wouldn't work if I am scum, save to draw attention on myself.

Also, as Hoods Path I'm sure will point out, it cannot possibly be signalling masters because there are no symps and ergo no masters.

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 01:04 PM

Also on the point of unhelpful play, if that is what you vote me for(and i'll not defend discussing stuff at night-it isn't usually the best of ideas, but I had some things I wanted to say) then pulling a role out to save causes so much WIFOM and is certainly far more unhelpful than disucssing at night. I can see that an inno discussing at night is unhelpful, but it doesn't make them any more likely to be scum, since why would scum discuss things when they already have the kills-they would let others come to the conclusions.

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 01:08 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on Jul 27 2009, 01:59 PM, said:

Zhang Jue worked both day and night to build his army. He called himself general of the heavens, --- Zhang Bao was called general of the earth, and Zhang Liang was called general of the people. --- They proclaimed to the multitudes that, "The end of the Han is at hand; the great saint has arrived; all of you must abide by the will of heaven in order to accommodate the great peace. Four to five hundred thousand common people, from the four corners of the empire, tied yellow turbans around their heads, and followed Zhang Jue into rebellion. The bandit rebels wielded a huge amount of power, and easily routed the government troops in battle after battle. He Jin petitioned the emperor to quickly issue an edict, ordering defensive preparations in every region, so that a campaign could be launched against the bandit rebels. In addition, he dispatched Lu Zhi, Huangfu Song and Zhu Jun --- all three of them being commanders of a their own team of palace guards --- to launch campaigns against the bandit rebels from three different directions.

--Luo Guanzhong, Romance of the Three Kingdoms


I think Silencers modkill has probably hurt us quite a lot. Sounds from this like he'd be a power role.

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 01:10 PM

Yes and ive said i dont like him either i could go for either of you just right now i find your actions over the night more scummy than HP's bullshitting

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 01:12 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on Jul 29 2009, 02:10 PM, said:

Yes and ive said i dont like him either i could go for either of you just right now i find your actions over the night more scummy than HP's bullshitting

Meh, all I said was who I wanted to lynch/found scummy.

Yes, this could be used for WIFOM.

On the other hand, so could the same things said in the day.

Kills will be WIFOM anyway.

It doesn't matter when you say it, if you say stuff like that, it can be used for WIFOM.

So unless we never say who we suspect at all, then it doesn't really matter when.

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 01:16 PM

It is Day 2. 21 hours, 43 minutes remaining.

9 players still alive: Ampelas, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Karatallid, Kaschan, Ruse, Thyrllan

5 votes to lynch. 5 to go to night.

1 Vote for Thyrlan (Hoods Path)
1 Vote D'riss (Emurlahn)

Players not voted: Ampelas, D'riss, Galayn Lord, Karatallid, Kaschan, Ruse, Thyrllan
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Posted 29 July 2009 - 01:18 PM

View PostHood's Path, on Jul 29 2009, 02:24 AM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on Jul 29 2009, 04:10 AM, said:

Hrm thats interesting.

So, HP, what did you do?


well thyrllan i gave you a healing ability. which you should have gotten and obviously didnt.

vote thyrllan

i thought you were least likely to be killed and actually out of driss and yourself i expected you to be han.


Thats funny, I received Catapults from the Imperial Armory last night, and they certainly don't let me heal anything.

That would be why I asked you, because you said you give out guards and heals...

Have not yet read past this post.

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 01:19 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on Jul 29 2009, 02:10 PM, said:

Yes and ive said i dont like him either i could go for either of you just right now i find your actions over the night more scummy than HP's bullshitting


much as i love driss, i dotn think theres any reason to go for him today. my reveal is genuine, i am inno and i did try and give thyrllan an ability last night, if he didnt get it, which his post to me indicated then he must be yellow army.

if you leave both thyrllan and me for another day i fear that with the modkill and generalloss of life we will lose before we can make a dent ont he scum.

9 players left

lynch inno > inno kill - 7 with likely 3 baddies. means tomorrows lynch is crucial if you lynch wrong today.

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 01:20 PM

And here's something I made earlier:

If thyr got ability:

Three options:

1. Both HP and Thyr are telling truth about it, both inno.
2. Both HP and Thyr are scum, HP picked a partner to pretend give power too. Lynch one to find out.
3. HP is telling the truth but Thyr is lying about getting the ability. HP inno, Thyr scum.

In this case, 2/3 chance that Thyr is scum. However, if HP is scum, thyr is also scum.

Lynch Thyr but not HP:

2/3 chance of finding one scum. HP may not be lynched and may be scum.

Lynch HP:

1/3 chance HP is scum. If HP is scum however, we also find another scum, because if HP is scum, thyr is scum, whereas thyr being scum doesn't necessarily mean HP is.

If Thyr did not get the ability:

Two options:

1. HP is lying about his role and is scum.
2. Thyr is scum.

If both were scum Thyr would claim to get the role.
50/50 chance of hitting scum. Lynch one, if inno, lynch the other.

This post has been edited by D'riss: 29 July 2009 - 01:20 PM


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