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James Camerons "AVATAR" (2009 film) Awesomest sci-fi film or Awesomest sci-fi film?

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 09:29 AM

I don't know about you people but I have been slowly getting more and more excited about this project.

http://en.wikipedia....tar_(2009_film)

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Avatar is set during the 22nd century on a small moon called Pandora, which orbits a gas giant, and is inhabited by the tribal Na'vi, ten foot blue humanoids that are peaceful unless attacked. Humans cannot breathe Pandoran air, so they genetically engineer human/Na'vi hybrids known as Avatars that can be controlled via a mental link. A paralyzed Marine named Jake Sully (Sam Worthington) volunteers to exist as an Avatar on Pandora, falling in love with a Na'vi princess and becoming caught up in the conflict between her people and the human military that is consuming their world.


Here's a completely useless teaser:

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=CGs3_1qKl34

Some link to Avatar info:

http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/06/08/everyt...amerons-avatar/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0499549/

http://www.rottentom...1194501-avatar/

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 10:46 AM

First thing I heard was people comparing it to star wars, and that it was going to be awesome. I'm very curious.
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 12:27 PM

Let's just hope we don't see signs of the Jim Cameron who made Titanic, shall we?
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 12:30 PM

You know how he is supposed to have reinvented 3D and everyone is raving about it? I am confused. Will we still have to wear the silly glasses?
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 12:31 PM

Titanic was a good film. Visually it was good looking piece of filmatogrphy, the manuscript and Leonardo DiCaprio just wasn't that good.

EDIT: @ Drunken Mezles, yesh, he supposedly decided to make this film now because camera technology and stuff had catched up with what he invisioned.

I saw some piece on future film making a while ago that suggested that 3D pictures are going to become the next big thing. Was it "Up" or "Monster vs Aliens" that was made for 3D? Supposedly it was a big success.

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 12:45 PM

I'll agree with some things there: the script was appalling, the acting was dire. Cinematically it wasn't particularly interesting, though. I don't think it was shot well at all, cinematography has never really been Cameron's strong suit; or more accurately, he doesn't choose cinematographers who make the filmed image interesting. It's quite flat, for the most part, as he's usually more concerned with what's happening in the image. Which is great when, as in Aliens or his Terminator films, what's happening on screen is actually interesting, but fails miserably in Titanic as the majority of the incident in the movie is rather dull.

Cameron's more of a technician than other directors, I feel. He doesn't, like David Fincher for instance who can make a fairly pedestrian movie like Panic Room into something that looks interesting, seem to have that much of a feel for atmosphere and visual style. I regard this something along similar lines to an author's writing style; some writers can make nothing at all seem great because of the way they put their words together, whereas others aren't that great at prose but have brilliant ideas.

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 11:30 PM

I have to disagree with you stone monkey, saying that Cameron doesn't have much feel for atmosphere. I remember watching Aliens as a kid and being scared shitless, even before the aliens jumped out stared killing every one. That was from the creepy, claustrophobic vibe, from when the marines where checking out the base. You don't create that kind tension if you don't have a feel for atmosphere.

I've been hanging out for this for a while, but could never find much info on it.
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Posted 13 July 2009 - 07:20 AM

Wanted to make a thread on this weeks ago....but there just wasnt enough info yet so elected to wait :killingme:.

Looks like this is going to be seriously groundbreaking stuff. When they say reinventing 3D i believe they have developed something along the lines of "prefect 3D" .
You will have to wear the glasses but the 3D effect is apparently exponentially better. Camerons crew have developed it, its called FUSION digital 3D camera system or somthig like that.

There are some more pics around the net ill post as soon as i have some time.
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Posted 13 July 2009 - 12:23 PM

Looks very cool.
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Posted 13 July 2009 - 12:43 PM

View Postdktorode, on Jul 13 2009, 03:20 AM, said:

Wanted to make a thread on this weeks ago....but there just wasnt enough info yet so elected to wait :killingme:.

Looks like this is going to be seriously groundbreaking stuff. When they say reinventing 3D i believe they have developed something along the lines of "prefect 3D" .
You will have to wear the glasses but the 3D effect is apparently exponentially better. Camerons crew have developed it, its called FUSION digital 3D camera system or somthig like that.

There are some more pics around the net ill post as soon as i have some time.


I think they had something approaching that tech when I went to see Journey to the Center of the Earth last year (or whenever it was out, I forget). It was clear-black lensedglasses instead of the red-and-blue ones and they were trying to really get the technology's name out there rather than just "its 3D". Of course I can't recall the name, but the 3D was a lot better than the old stuff, so this is probably (hopefully) an even further improvement on that.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 13 July 2009 - 12:50 PM

Clear lenses have been around for quite some time now.
Camerons crew have developed a better/new way of filming for 3D.
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Posted 13 July 2009 - 04:06 PM

There are a bunch of ways of doing this iirc. The simplest way is the red/green thing; another way is to plane polarise the frames that are projected for each eye at 90 degrees (or pi/2 radians, if you prefer) to one another and then have appropriately orientated polaroid lenses in the glasses. Yet another is to have shutters in the glasses that are in sync with the the frames projected for each eye.

iirc the last 3D movie I saw used the polaroid method and worked very well.
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Posted 13 July 2009 - 05:48 PM

View Poststone monkey, on Jul 13 2009, 12:06 PM, said:

There are a bunch of ways of doing this iirc. The simplest way is the red/green thing; another way is to plane polarise the frames that are projected for each eye at 90 degrees (or pi/2 radians, if you prefer) to one another and then have appropriately orientated polaroid lenses in the glasses. Yet another is to have shutters in the glasses that are in sync with the the frames projected for each eye.

iirc the last 3D movie I saw used the polaroid method and worked very well.


Ah yes, they *were* polarized, I remember taking two pairs and rotating the lenses over each other to check and see if they genuinely were polarized (they were). So yeah, I had the same thing as you stone monkey.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 13 July 2009 - 06:27 PM

Ummm....why isn't there a proper fucking trailer for this movie yet? It says it comes out Summer '09...
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Posted 13 July 2009 - 06:48 PM

It's not. Last I heard it was set for late november, maybe december.
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Posted 13 July 2009 - 07:13 PM

Yeah, I guess... A little poking around the internets has informed me that Cameron plans to show a preview/trailer/whatever of the film at Comic Con next week...no doubt resulting a hugely messy nerdgasm. Also, there will be Twilight previews, no doubt resulting in a hugely messy tweengasm.

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 07:15 PM

have seen the newer 3D movies and they are deadly fucking cool.

A sci fi that uses that technology could truly be awesome. I like the basis for the story too. Very pocahontas.
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Posted 13 July 2009 - 07:19 PM

Imagine watching the robot battles from Revenge of the Fallen in 3D I think I would be sick...

Speaking of which, it's about god damn time they made a Gundam Wing movie series.
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Posted 16 July 2009 - 12:24 AM

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Camerons crew have developed a better/new way of filming for 3D.


Yup, it's the camera system Jackson and Spielberg are using on the Tintin movies as well. Apparently del Toro just wants to use standard film for The Hobbit as he doesn't want things to get too gimmicky.

They are leaving it late to not have shown us anything at all from the movie yet. The Last Airbender is what, still over a year away and we've gotten trailers already? Avatar's only six months away, apparently.
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Posted 17 July 2009 - 10:29 AM

Comic con will have the first trailer.

And THE LAST AIRBENDER will need allot more publicity then what a James Cameron film will need... :harhar:
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