[Mockra]

Korlat and Gam, you two are being so... reasonable towards each other while attempting to appear at each others throats that I'm beginning to suspect you're cooking this up between you.

My mafia suspicion rash is burning bright red...

[Korlat]

Good luck Gamelon.

[Korlat]

Mockra, on Jul 8 2009, 04:36 PM, said:

Korlat and Gam, you two are being so... reasonable towards each other while attempting to appear at each others throats that I'm beginning to suspect you're cooking this up between you.

My mafia suspicion rash is burning bright red...

Awfully paranoid, aren't we!

[Mockra]

Am I?

[Gamelon]

Mockra, on Jul 8 2009, 08:36 AM, said:

Korlat and Gam, you two are being so... reasonable towards each other while attempting to appear at each others throats that I'm beginning to suspect you're cooking this up between you.

My mafia suspicion rash is burning bright red...

Best hide it, before your lady suspects you of cheating on her and thinking it's a side condition of a little adventure

[Gamelon]

Korlat, on Jul 8 2009, 08:37 AM, said:

Good luck Gamelon.

Merci, et au revoir.




Race you to SH?

[Korlat]

I think so; I look forward to seeing it.

[Mockra]

They might even have pictures of my rash!

[Korlat]

Mockra, on Jul 8 2009, 04:42 PM, said:

They might even have pictures of my rash!

About those... I'll be needing $10000 dollars in unmarked bills, dropped outside the Church of Pelendro...

[Mockra]

They'll be unmarked, but I will have rubbed each bill on my rash.

And where is this church of Pedobear?

[Korlat]

Damnit; why is my /b/ folder so nsfw, especially for situations like this lmao...

[Emurlahn]

So Gam, you're claiming to have vigged me twice? I dont have any BPs, so I'm not sure how that worked - even if I had one I should by rights be dead. It seems to me either you're lying (I dont understand why you would though) or attracted a guard.

[Korlat]

He killed Meanas, Emurlahn.

[Korlat]

Or so I believe

[Korlat]

Or like me he was only a one-shot vig, and hes lying.

[Rashan]

Korlat is a Grey King. We know that Liosan was a foreigner most pobably a grey king. Korlat was busy defending Liosan right before he bought it. When you add that to the fact that he is also a killer. He needs to be lynched.

Korlat, on Jul 7 2009, 06:02 AM, said:

For the moment, I am derailing the Liosan lynch. Psychologically, he doesn't play as a power role or a leader, or someone who is paired. He's being neither careful, nor logical. If he had a partner, they'd be reigning him in. Perhaps he'd be playing an aggresive Leader to try and inspire an attack on him to try and see who his allies are; but none of us in this game are new players, in fact, I see a lot of skill. I see him being someone with a useless or no power, so he's not a target for me, yet. In order to get a majority easily, the best way to play this game would be remove the power roles of opposing teams while keeping your own secure.
If I explain my motives for my above vote, it becomes an absolutely powerless gesture. I'll lynch Liosan if I don't see what I'm looking for, or anything else better, but until then, I will be on the prowl.

Here is where he admits to derailing the Liosan lynch that Kaschan was trying to start.

Liosan, on Jul 7 2009, 06:12 AM, said:

Korlat, on Jul 7 2009, 12:09 PM, said:

Devil's Advocate time, Liosan.
By putting pressure on two players, you have potentially alienated one or two factions; however, I think we can assume not every member of a faction knows everyone else, so this line of reasoning is flawed; Mockra and Kaschan are probably not aligned. Kaschan is jumping on you because your aggression is an easy play-style to use to motivate players against you; no one likes having a loose cannon wheeling about the game, and if he can portray you as such (as he's doing now, by goading you into an OMGUS vote), he makes you a much bigger target.
Also, this allows him to test and see other members of your faction.
The chance of Kaschan being in HP's team is about 3 or 4 in 17, which doesn't make you look big or clever. Deep breaths. Don't let Kaschan goad you into a lynch. Anyone who tries to play a game by dancing us around on psychological puppet strings is always dangerous to my mind.

True enough. But it makes sense that all players knows the identity of their leader. I certainly know the identity of mine. So, as such my argument makes sense with HP placed as the leader.

Now, my vote is omgus, but I do think that my reasoning is sound and that Kaschan is a power role.

Here Liosan offerers a way for Korlat to defend him with out coming totally out.

Korlat, on Jul 7 2009, 06:13 AM, said:

In other words, I'm not on your team, but Kaschan is a danger. Just don't make yourself look like an idiot and give him more credibility.

Other words you just put them in Liosans mouth but since he hasn't disagreed why by jupitor it must be true. Bullshit

Korlat, on Jul 7 2009, 06:21 AM, said:

Barghast, on Jul 7 2009, 02:15 PM, said:

Korlat, on Jul 7 2009, 10:13 PM, said:

In other words, I'm not on your team, but Kaschan is a danger. Just don't make yourself look like an idiot and give him more credibility.

Hold on, you're saying you aren't in Lio's faction? That's interesting. Because you are making yourself a potential load of enemies, there. Strange that you're being so nice and helpful to Lio, as well...

I've already guessed Liosan's faction and thus he's no danger to me (make of that what you will). On the other hand, I don't believe Kaschan's reveal, and I don't know his faction, so I am prepared to work against him with any available potential allies to determine it.

Here you go again claiming that your not on Liosans team. I think that you protest to much.

Korlat, on Jul 7 2009, 06:23 AM, said:

Kaschan, on Jul 7 2009, 02:21 PM, said:

theres gray king member number 2

Wrong again, Kaschan by picking the Grey King as an enemy faction, you are using an age-old tactic of turning the most naturally vilified and potentially dangerous team into one opposing yourself; making me think you might be Grey King yourself, or Barsavi.

I have never read the books so I don't know that the grey teams faction is the most dangerous I assume that every faction is dangerous in its own right. But you are still going to the trouble of defending liosan and attacking Kaschan.

Kaschan, on Jul 7 2009, 06:39 AM, said:

Korlat, on Jul 7 2009, 11:36 AM, said:

Kaschan, on Jul 7 2009, 02:35 PM, said:

Korlat, on Jul 7 2009, 11:31 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on Jul 7 2009, 02:28 PM, said:

Heh. Dont really know what to make of all of this. Korlat - I dont really follow why you believe Kas is lying. Not that I'm sold on his reveal. Although claiming a specific faction during the first few days of a merc game is a sure-fire way to get yourself killed, so he must really want Lio dead. Hmm.

It's the way he's playing. He's making himself into a peon with no real attack power, of a weaker faction, hunting the Gentlemen Bastards, yet he's pointing fingers at the Grey King; which makes me think either GB, or, much more likely, Barsavi (kill the guys trying to kill you, and then kill your own targets seems like a rational idea). And why would he reveal his alignment and role, and the CF of a dead member? I don't believe a word of it.

why would i not?

you people need to learn to live a little, your all so fucking tense.

Rule 1 of mafia - its a game, and should be played balls cupped and to the sound of ride of the valkyries. have fun, do some crazy shit and make people enjoy themselves. If you dont want o believe. then dont. everytime you defend the falconer you are becoming linked with him.

as the falconer is part of a named faction that makes you either the gray king, or a twin who are also possible vigs. you go girl(they are sisters :gaes-orfantal: )

The age old propaganda tactic of appealing to emotion, eh?

haha - if you defended lio anymore i think his arse would fall off. You sure you arent trying to implicate him by pushing a little hard the symp card there locke?

Hey now Kaschan has also noticed what is obvious.

Korlat, on Jul 7 2009, 07:23 AM, said:

Kaschan, on Jul 7 2009, 03:21 PM, said:

Korlat, on Jul 7 2009, 12:18 PM, said:

Kaschan, on Jul 7 2009, 03:13 PM, said:

Liosan, on Jul 7 2009, 12:04 PM, said:

moving a bit too far into meta territory now, aren't you?

you started it by calling me a leprechaun!! cheeky get

and in fact no not really. your defense is i wouldnt reveal (not really a defense), my response was, i do it all the time.

That's true, but a finder wouldn't have survived a vig last night. So I don't believe your reveal.

so you vigged me last night did you? oh this just gets better and better welcome to the party, jean.

I did vig you last night. And by calling me Jean, you admitting I am actually a vig and you are a leader?

Now not only do you not deny that you are jean but you also confirm that you are a vig. However from what people say about jean you would have to be a killer.

Now since you are a killer and belong to the Grey king faction


VOTE KORLAT

[Rashan]

Korlat, on Jul 8 2009, 10:12 AM, said:

Or like me he was only a one-shot vig, and hes lying.

You killed Meanas and are a killer.

[Sixty]

Too lazy to log into P-S:
It is Day 3. 15 hours remaining

13 Players still alive: Ampelas, Barghast, Eloth, Emurlahn, Galain, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Karatallid, Korlat, Mockra, Rashan, Silanah, Tellan

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night

2 votes for Korlat: ( Gamelon, Rashan )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Barghast, Eloth, Emurlahn, Galain, Galayn Lord, Karatallid, Korlat, Mockra, Silanah, Tellan

[Korlat]

Fucking hilarious, Rashan. I actually lolled. I'm not the Grey King, and I don't know who he is, yet, although I'm looking for him. I don't believe Gamelon about Emurlahn; he hasn't fitted the Grey King template, and he's not my leader, nor the other teams leader.

[Tellan]

Interesting bit there Rash. I didn't really get the defending-Liosan vibe from Korlat, but that could just be because he was trying not to sound like that.

However, we're sure Lio was the Falconer, so if Korlat is the GK he'd be the faction leader and would he then even know who Lio is? Maybe because the GK hired him he knows his Falconer, but maybe not. Or do all the leaders know their second-in-command?