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Mafia 48: The Lies of Locke Lamora Motherfu--

#741 User is offline   Silanah 

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 11:11 PM

Who is Roland in the book?

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 11:12 PM

He was the Spider's assistant; she was a frail old woman so she wasn't able for fieldwork. Sort of like how Topper is Surly's assistant in the Claw.

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 11:14 PM

It could be that that is the only faction that would disperse. I dunno. Then again, maybe that's why the extra victory conditions were put in. There's a chance that the one of the two factions left with a majority won't have killed the required leader yet, which could lead to an interesting leader-hunt, especially if the dispersed members of the defeated factions aren't told who their new leader is.

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I hope that made sense.


With that said, however, I am trying to decide if Korlat was telling the truth about the single vig. On one hand, why would he reveal to get Kaschan lynched if he had more kills to finish the job he started. Maybe he had two kills and new that Kaschan getting lynched would give him one more night to blow the rest of his load. On the other hand, why would he use a one-shot vig on the first night? Just because he alted dibs? I'm not sure I buy that either.

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 11:14 PM

Hrm. Solid enough role that it could support the two-leaders-to-topple theory. Sixty mentioning before that the game could take a long time leads me to think that a simple kill-one-leader from each faction wouldn't be enough to bring them down.

It also probably means the Gray King is scared shitless for his faction.

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 11:15 PM

View PostSilanah, on Jul 8 2009, 03:10 AM, said:

Well that means (obviously) that Meanas wasn't the Basarvi leader and Lio wasn't the GK leader (pretty sure everyone agrees he was the Falconer), if that logic holds true. And the GB have yet to suffer a fatality.

Which would mean they probably didn't gain anyone from the distribution of alts; I reckon the Grey King got the most, simply because the Falconer was the biggest bad-ass motherfucker in the series (he should have been in a group on his own, he was pretty much unbeatable in the book, and potentially could have had killing, guarding and healing powers).

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 11:17 PM

Is the Falconer the "Bondsmage" described in the wiki?

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 11:18 PM

View PostAmpelas, on Jul 8 2009, 03:14 AM, said:

It could be that that is the only faction that would disperse. I dunno. Then again, maybe that's why the extra victory conditions were put in. There's a chance that the one of the two factions left with a majority won't have killed the required leader yet, which could lead to an interesting leader-hunt, especially if the dispersed members of the defeated factions aren't told who their new leader is.

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I hope that made sense.


With that said, however, I am trying to decide if Korlat was telling the truth about the single vig. On one hand, why would he reveal to get Kaschan lynched if he had more kills to finish the job he started. Maybe he had two kills and new that Kaschan getting lynched would give him one more night to blow the rest of his load. On the other hand, why would he use a one-shot vig on the first night? Just because he alted dibs? I'm not sure I buy that either.

You'll have to wait for SH to find out why I used my vig; just be happy with the image of DiBs tearing his hair out in rage, and Morgoth laughing, laughing, laughing at him lol. :wallbash: But I promise, I have no action to use on anyone.

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 11:21 PM

View PostSilanah, on Jul 8 2009, 03:17 AM, said:

Is the Falconer the "Bondsmage" described in the wiki?

Yes. Yes he fucking is lmao. :wallbash: He keeps a mutated Falcon as a pet, and that thing could work as vig or wounding powers; he himself would probably be most likely to have guarding or killing powers, but healing isn't too out there, either. I think we can assume from the fact that DiBS had an almost broken ability that, if the Grey King is like he is in the books, ie he has little to no abilities and relied entirely on the Falconer, the Falconer was the main power-player of the GK's faction.

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 11:28 PM

D'riss has disappeared; if he doesn't appear in the next hour, that's fucking bad play. I can understand getting modkilled for not having access, but getting modkilled after spending a good while lurking? That irratates me.

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 11:36 PM

And now you two are quiet... Gah.

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 11:36 PM

FYI re: Driss

View PostD'riss, on Jul 6 2009, 05:46 PM, said:

@Eloth: I've posted 3 times and none of them were intended to be taken all that seriously what was sneaky about what I said?


So he's got like 1:20 to post or he gets modkilled.

edit: haha xpost

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 11:38 PM

Would piss me off a great deal if he was a leader or power player. :wallbash:

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 11:42 PM

Well why would D'riss lurk unless he IS a power player? He hasn't acted noob really, although Eloth has called him one and wanted to vote him for it.

I could maybe kinda sorta see him lurk to avoid putting his foot in his mouth if he was the GK and knows he's already in trouble, but if he doesn't post and is modkilled and his faction is split up, that would be game over for everyone else unless Basarvi gets enough to make it even... and that's still one lynch from game-over.

And besides, why not post SOMETHING rather than just sit there suspiciously if you don't want to get your faction killed?

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 11:46 PM

I know. It's bad play altogether.

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 11:47 PM

There's plenty to comment on safely today; all he needed to say was "wow, DiBs was the spider?!" or something similar, but he didn't even do that.

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 11:48 PM

I just read everything and it is still really confusing :wallbash: .... and now a couple people are moved around....and you guys are moving the game along really fast!?!

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 11:48 PM

Haha, speaking of DiBs, look who's here reading the thread.

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 11:48 PM

Eloth why are you so confused? What is confusing?

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Posted 08 July 2009 - 12:00 AM

I think hes commenting on the distribution of the Spider's team... That one is making my head hurt myself, so I'm avoiding thinking of it... As we don't even know the number of players...
A:5
B:4+X-1
C:4+Y-1 (with their main goal complete)

D:(4+Z-2)/2

So, we have 3+X and 3+Y, each getting a part of D... Just by sheer balancing of the game, I'd have to imagine that the Grey King got the numerical advantage if it exists, because 1) they are being hunted by a team who now have no natural enemy, and the team they have to kill has already achieved one victory condition. So, I would say the Grey King now have five members, and the Barsavis are back to four. Unfortunatly, that's just an assumption.

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Posted 08 July 2009 - 12:01 AM

I have to bounce for a bit. We'll see if D'riss posts in 45 mins or goes to heaven.

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