[Kaschan]

Damn forum went down in the middle of my catch up. Uh, my head is throbbing, and I'm completely mind-fucked after what was, imo, utter chaos. I don't know what heppend, but we seem to have a few experienced players who have snapped completely and have stopped making sense. I'm gonna go to sleep and try my best to make sense of what we have in the morning. Good night.

[Rashan]

Damn. Things don't look good for me. At least I'm still alive but I have some chores to do before I can try and do some begging and pleading to lynch Mockra for his quick about face. Apparently no one gave a second thought of what I brought up about Karallid. Not scummy enough to garner even a comment from anyone but galain or Karallid. Well since my case waisn't even good enough for comment I'll just have to

remove vote

[Mockra]

Rashan, on Jun 25 2009, 03:03 PM, said:

Damn. Things don't look good for me. At least I'm still alive but I have some chores to do before I can try and do some begging and pleading to lynch Mockra for his quick about face. Apparently no one gave a second thought of what I brought up about Karallid. Not scummy enough to garner even a comment from anyone but galain or Karallid. Well since my case waisn't even good enough for comment I'll just have to

remove vote

Oh look, out for his own ass again and wants to go after the other person instead of giving an original thought

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 4 hours and 15 minutes remaining

19 Players still alive: Ampelas, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Galain, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Karatallid, Kaschan, Korlat, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Rashan, Silanah, Thyrllan

10 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night

2 votes for Mockra: ( Karatallid, Liosan )
8 votes for Rashan: ( Kaschan, Omtose, Barghast, Mockra, Thyrllan, Galain, Emurlahn, Hood's Path )

Players not voted: Ampelas, D'riss, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Korlat, Meanas, Rashan, Silanah


I am tired and it is late here. In case of a lynch while you miserable lot (I also might be slightly inebriated) are modless. The person lynched is fucking dead DON"T FUCKING TALK AFTER YOUR FUCKING DEAD...Next shit will get taken care of when one of my fellow wonderful mods gets on. Also if you haven't already then GET YOUR FUCKING PROVISIONALS IN so that night doesn't last long...Also Galain should be the first voted for Rash but I was fucking around and so he is were he fucking is...But if your keeping count which Galain is then he is first...

Hugs and kisses

Vengeance

[Korlat]

Angry mod is angry, and uses teh dreaded bold.

I'm back, and caught up.

Four hours to go, I'll be on for deadline. Just want to give it a bit of room for the disinfecting. And etc.

[Liosan]

Mockra, on Jun 24 2009, 10:24 PM, said:

Damn forum downs...
Wow I wasn't expecting all this talk about me from my one post while I was checking in...
I didn't vote under pressure... I voted as I found him to be the best candidate earlier and others didn't seem to hesitate. Why should putting him at l-3 be a bad thing from my position.. its not like i am hammering him with 20 hours left. The reason I placed my vote is that I was hoping for a speed lynch on the inevitable target so the 2 infected players in play would die from not having their vote on a specific alt if that power is currently in effect. The fact that 2 people jumped on my is beginning to make me think that there is the DG forcing them to do so which gives me much more suspicions of Sil. It seems not many of you realized that I made a post with a vote that I said I would place earlier and you all begin talking about me over reacting...
Im going to leave my vote where it is and we still have 7 hours with Rash at L-2.
Copy pasta

You admit to wanting a speed-lynch? Something that is only good for scum? On the off-chance that a)the DG compelled his infected (which, as discussed earlier, is incredibly unlikely/stupid) and b)they haven't already put their votes down and wouldn't have been around later to do so either? You want to sacrifice loads of information and discussion on the stupidly small chance of outing or killing a couple infected?

Admitting to wanting a speed-lynch! I can't even wrap my head around it... Clearly, we need to put another person in the idiot box.

[Galain]

Path-Shaper, on Jun 24 2009, 08:46 PM, said:

It is Day 2. 4 hours and 15 minutes remaining

19 Players still alive: Ampelas, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Galain, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Karatallid, Kaschan, Korlat, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Rashan, Silanah, Thyrllan

10 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night

2 votes for Mockra: ( Karatallid, Liosan )
8 votes for Rashan: ( Kaschan, Omtose, Barghast, Mockra, Thyrllan, Galain, Emurlahn, Hood's Path )

Players not voted: Ampelas, D'riss, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Korlat, Meanas, Rashan, Silanah


I am tired and it is late here. In case of a lynch while you miserable lot (I also might be slightly inebriated) are modless. The person lynched is fucking dead DON"T FUCKING TALK AFTER YOUR FUCKING DEAD...Next shit will get taken care of when one of my fellow wonderful mods gets on. Also if you haven't already then GET YOUR FUCKING PROVISIONALS IN so that night doesn't last long...Also Galain should be the first voted for Rash but I was fucking around and so he is were he fucking is...But if your keeping count which Galain is then he is first...

Hugs and kisses

Vengeance

Holy shit that is one angry Venge. I was just clarifying because people look at that stuff later and people have taken a lot of things out of context in this game.

[Galain]

Also, forum back up, yay. Mockra response, wtf? And like 3 hours til lynch timer I think?

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 3 hours and 9 minutes remaining

19 Players still alive: Ampelas, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Galain, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Karatallid, Kaschan, Korlat, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Rashan, Silanah, Thyrllan

10 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night

2 votes for Mockra: ( Karatallid, Liosan )
8 votes for Rashan: ( Kaschan, Omtose, Barghast, Mockra, Thyrllan, Galain, Emurlahn, Hood's Path )

Players not voted: Ampelas, D'riss, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Korlat, Meanas, Rashan, Silanah

-(Note: per angry mod Galain's vote is the first, just a reminder. Love, Malaese.)

[Galain]

Zzzzzz

Also, if you keep saying Galain they are going to think you're in cahoots with Karat.

[Ampelas]

OK, caught up.

Interesting discussions. Despite what others have picked up I found these two recent post quite suspicious:

Mockra, on Jun 25 2009, 04:24 AM, said:

Damn forum downs...
Wow I wasn't expecting all this talk about me from my one post while I was checking in...
I didn't vote under pressure... I voted as I found him to be the best candidate earlier and others didn't seem to hesitate. Why should putting him at l-3 be a bad thing from my position.. its not like i am hammering him with 20 hours left. The reason I placed my vote is that I was hoping for a speed lynch on the inevitable target so the 2 infected players in play would die from not having their vote on a specific alt if that power is currently in effect. The fact that 2 people jumped on my is beginning to make me think that there is the DG forcing them to do so which gives me much more suspicions of Sil. It seems not many of you realized that I made a post with a vote that I said I would place earlier and you all begin talking about me over reacting...
Im going to leave my vote where it is and we still have 7 hours with Rash at L-2.
Copy pasta

I won't repeat what Liosan answered to that, but I'm quite annoyed that the choice of lynch moved back to Rashan. In three hours I don't think we can switch back.

The other one is not related:

Kaschan, on Jun 25 2009, 04:37 AM, said:

Damn forum went down in the middle of my catch up. Uh, my head is throbbing, and I'm completely mind-fucked after what was, imo, utter chaos. I don't know what heppend, but we seem to have a few experienced players who have snapped completely and have stopped making sense. I'm gonna go to sleep and try my best to make sense of what we have in the morning. Good night.

Utter chaos? Makes no sense? Leaving without a vote? Am I missing something, or is the day not that complex? Sure tons of players mention other players as suspicious, and not everyone agrees on some details, but using the "being lost" excuse to just post-to-post-without-any-opinion at this point is a bit extreme.

[Ampelas]

So Galain, are you scum who voted first because that's not a suspicious place to be on the train, and is now pissed to be moved at a suspicious spot? All your plans and efforts WASTED!

[Ampelas]

I'm going to

vote Rashan

because now is usually "very slow time" for the game, and with less than 3 hours left I want to make sure there's a lynch

[Korlat]

Right, just as long as no-one hammers...we do want people to remove their votes on other players, don't we? Or something like that.

[Liosan]

Okay, since Rashan is now fixin' to get hammered, I guess I'm going to

remove vote

as discussed earlier (making it harder for the DG to compel and all that). My vote is still on Mockra, though. In fact, I think there are, like, 3 unregistered votes on Mockra right now, just in case, I dunno, you guys wanna bag a definite scum, 'cause Mockra is scummy as shit.

[Mockra]

Well based on how the voting was going I suspected that there wouldn't be another viable lynch target for the day so I wanted to lynch before infected players could place a vote on their forced target. I know nobody else would have pushed the lynch but that is what I was hoping for as it would have gotten rid of 2 infected who would do the DG's bidding. Now the infected are either the 2 voting for me currently or are on the Rashan train and based on Kaschan not voting for anyone, it seems he might not be infected. I didn't really want to mention lynching when I placed my vote as I didn't want the infected to get their votes down in a flurry.
@Liosan, You think getting rid of 2 infected is only good for scum? I disagree but you can think what you like
Now Rashan is at L-1 so I suspect someone will hammer shortly and we will see if any infected have not placed their needed votes if the effect is in place. Right now the 2 people who I suspect are infected are the 2 voting for me and Sil as the DG.

[Mockra]

Liosan, on Jun 25 2009, 05:40 PM, said:

Okay, since Rashan is now fixin' to get hammered, I guess I'm going to

remove vote

as discussed earlier (making it harder for the DG to compel and all that). My vote is still on Mockra, though. In fact, I think there are, like, 3 unregistered votes on Mockra right now, just in case, I dunno, you guys wanna bag a definite scum, 'cause Mockra is scummy as shit.

What?
It seems my suspicions of you as an infected are lowered...

[Korlat]

Oh, and don't forget we have D'riss claiming infection, and he has no vote on anyone.

[Rashan]

Karatallid, on Jun 24 2009, 04:04 PM, said:

I think we'll struggle to win this. It's the idea of compulsion that's the problem.

Say we push to lynch a scum. Obviously, lynching a scum is never easy, and their teammates/symp will make sure there's a competing lynch. And obviously, they will try to paint the people voting for their teammate as infected. Now, a very easy way to prove this not true is to remove vote, and a player wanting to prove themself not under compulsion will do this. Like Silanah just did. Which releases the pressure. Anyone who refuses to remove vote paints themselves as infected in everyone's eyes.

The scum have such an easy way out. And the DG/infected can play at this, too, although with less effect (lack of communication).

The only solution I can think of is to not talk about compulsion unless you actually have some evidence that it's happening. And no, people voting for someone you don't think is guilty is not evidence. Most people think that compulsion today is unlikely, so why is it being suggested so much? People can disagree without being under compulsion.

This argument is crap. It's near the end of day two. Why are you still trying to confuse people with deliberatly false information? Infected can vote and remove vote as often as they want through out the day. They don't even need to have their vote on the person they are compelled to vote for by days end. They will die and lose if they don't but that still doesn't mean they have to do as they are commanded. Who knows maybe someone would be willing to lose to give their former team a chance at victory. People do some crazy stuff.

I think it will actually be fairly easy to spot infected in the coming days if the DG uses compulsion. You will see people make cases and attack certain individuals and then they will have their vote on someone else at the end of the day. That iwill not only give a heads up to everyone else as to who has been infected but it will also tell everyone who the DG is targeting and then most likely who the DG really is. Looks like I removed my vote for you too soon.

I wish I was the DG so I can compel the infected to

vote Karatallid

[Rashan]

Korlat, on Jun 25 2009, 01:45 AM, said:

Oh, and don't forget we have D'riss claiming infection, and he has no vote on anyone.

I think the DG would be stupid to use compulsion this early in the game. It would most likely out his infected and ultimately cast suspison their way.