[Silanah]

So, Rash or Tellan?
I am going to need to look back at both, but in the mean time
remove vote

[Thyrllan]

Hi guys

@Rash: ma bad, the contradictoryness was Mockra, not you. Just like the Ts and Ks, i get mockra, rash and galain mixed up cause the avatars all look at the same at a glance

@Gam: i dont think your makin much sense, man. If i was DG i sure wouldnt tip my hand by openly disiplining my inf (in this case Tellann you suppose), its just an inf i would let it die and get anotehr one without exposin myself. tellann wouldnt know who i am anyway so probly would hardly notice it. if i was an inf i wouldnt know the DG so i couldnt be symping Tellann-the-DG because I dont know him!

[Gamelon]

Thyrllan, on Jun 23 2009, 07:57 AM, said:

@Gam: i dont think your makin much sense, man. If i was DG i sure wouldnt tip my hand by openly disiplining my inf (in this case Tellann you suppose), its just an inf i would let it die and get anotehr one without exposin myself. tellann wouldnt know who i am anyway so probly would hardly notice it. if i was an inf i wouldnt know the DG so i couldnt be symping Tellann-the-DG because I dont know him!

Ive seen it happen before, and it will happen again
make sense to me.

[Silanah]

So I have looked over both Tellan and Rashan and the cases against them and tbh I am torn.
From my point of view:

Rashan:
Looks more like an idiot than anything else. His logic is flawed and his um... strategy makes no sense.

Tellan:
On the other hand we have a Tellan who is blatantly sympathetic towards the infected. Which baffles me, because he is one of those that wants as many people to win as possible or he is the infected/DG, which seems ludicrous (Yes I do try to credit my fellow players with some modicum of intelligence).

As it stands, I am more likely leaning towards Tellan.

And no I am not voting just yet, we have time and I am not convinced enough that one is a better choice than the other.

[Mockra]

Checking in, won't be back before the deadline I do not believe... ill leave my vote where it is.

[Silanah]

Mockra, on Jun 23 2009, 02:30 PM, said:

Checking in, won't be back before the deadline I do not believe... ill leave my vote where it is.

Well thats convenient, but if you are still around, have you gotten to grips with the mechanics yet?

Because from what I see you keep not understanding the information we have been given.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 3 hours and 34 minutes remaining

21 Players still alive: Ampelas, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Galain, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Karatallid, Kaschan, Korlat, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Rashan, Serc, Silanah, Tellan, Thyrllan

11 votes to lynch, 11 votes to go to night

1 vote for Galain: ( Rashan )
7 votes for Tellan: ( Liosan, Ampelas, Barghast, Emurlahn, Mockra, Korlat, D'riss )
1 vote for Eloth: ( Serc )
5 votes for Rashan: ( Tellan, Galain, Omtose, Thyrllan, Karatallid )
1 vote for Thyrllan: ( Hood's Path )

Players not voted: Eloth, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Kaschan, Meanas, Silanah

[D'riss]

I am here, but it appears the thread has died, Im not a big fan of calling players idiots based on their voting night. There is a relative noob around (he played in one other game I think), but I have to say, that at times the sheer level of intelligence in the thread was very low appearing. Of course I think this is because people are trying to hide their alts, for some reason, but thats all meta, so a pointless discussion. I will admit that at first I was assuming Rash was the first infected, and the DG had the ability to compel him to vote night, but with his removal of the vote, it appears he actually did do it on his own. I understand that it was un-likely, I just had no better reason to think anyone would vote night.

[Karatallid]

I have far more of a problem with Rashan's vote for Galain than I do with the voting for night.

[D'riss]

Karatallid, on Jun 23 2009, 09:49 AM, said:

I have far more of a problem with Rashan's vote for Galain than I do with the voting for night.

I think I missed that, hang on, I'll look.

[D'riss]

Rashan, on Jun 23 2009, 03:04 AM, said:

Thyrllan, on Jun 22 2009, 10:25 PM, said:

k, well those last few pages were a ton of back and forth between a bunch of ppl

for the tellann issue, I think hes right in his assessments of the game and right that there probly wont be an inf reveal, but it still sounds like hes discourging it, which is wrong. it might be unlikely, but on the offchance that it could hapen dont discourage it cause if it does happen thats good for us!

Eloth seemed fine to me in tryin to keep scum on the radar, i dont think he was lessening cult much at a ll and the little of his that could be takn that way is excusble

Serc sounds like a prick, real quick to point out the teeniest of commonplace erors and get mad at folk for it, but thats not necessarily scummy just annoyin

and Omtose is very cool headed through it all

glad we have tons of time left, for now i gonna

vote Rashan

because there has been no explanaton good enough to excuse voting night and nothing else catches my eye. plus thers that recent bit on him contradicting himself. ill be on this afernoon before the deadline, later!

Can you please be a bit more specific about these supposed contradictions? I also removed my vote for night like 6 hours ago. It was never a serious vote in the first place and it had no hope of ever being voted by 2 people let alone the 11 necessary to have it come to pass. If peoples reason to lynch me are based soley on the fact that I voted night then they are a bunch of idiots.

vote galain

for being a bit too overly zelous in voting to lynch me. I should put my vote in for someone that has contributed nothing but fluff to the discussion but I'm tired and I'm a bit suspious about how strongly galain reacted to my vote.

Here it is. Why is this questionable? Am I missing something, I know its OMGUS, but he admits its probably a shitty waste of a vote. Kara, what am I missing?

[Thyrllan]

D'riss, on Jun 23 2009, 03:45 PM, said:

I am here, but it appears the thread has died, Im not a big fan of calling players idiots based on their voting night. There is a relative noob around (he played in one other game I think), but I have to say, that at times the sheer level of intelligence in the thread was very low appearing. Of course I think this is because people are trying to hide their alts, for some reason, but thats all meta, so a pointless discussion. I will admit that at first I was assuming Rash was the first infected, and the DG had the ability to compel him to vote night, but with his removal of the vote, it appears he actually did do it on his own. I understand that it was un-likely, I just had no better reason to think anyone would vote night.

interesting idea, but i doubt the DG would get a compulsion pre-game start. if he did then making Rash vote night would be stupid as hell since it would imediately give away the only inf. not impossible, as rash only has to have it on night (or whatever rthe compulsion is) at the time of the lynch.

i still think its more likely rash is a scum or the DG himsef, maybe not very experienced player, who was trying to vote night and get a free kill/NA, but wquickly realized it was a bad idea and withdrew

[Gamelon]

Thyr....You dont see any merit in the case on Tellan?

[D'riss]

Thyrllan, on Jun 23 2009, 10:02 AM, said:

D'riss, on Jun 23 2009, 03:45 PM, said:

I am here, but it appears the thread has died, Im not a big fan of calling players idiots based on their voting night. There is a relative noob around (he played in one other game I think), but I have to say, that at times the sheer level of intelligence in the thread was very low appearing. Of course I think this is because people are trying to hide their alts, for some reason, but thats all meta, so a pointless discussion. I will admit that at first I was assuming Rash was the first infected, and the DG had the ability to compel him to vote night, but with his removal of the vote, it appears he actually did do it on his own. I understand that it was un-likely, I just had no better reason to think anyone would vote night.

interesting idea, but i doubt the DG would get a compulsion pre-game start. if he did then making Rash vote night would be stupid as hell since it would imediately give away the only inf. not impossible, as rash only has to have it on night (or whatever rthe compulsion is) at the time of the lynch.

i still think its more likely rash is a scum or the DG himsef, maybe not very experienced player, who was trying to vote night and get a free kill/NA, but wquickly realized it was a bad idea and withdrew

Yeah, I just think that would be too easy, welcome to WIFOM land. I thought about that compulsion thing, and it was the only reason I could honestly see Rash voting night, of course at that time, I was looking from the point of view that maybe the DG was getting pressured and at that time you had the most votes. But I think that you are probably right, its more than likely a night action. Honestly I just don't like Tellan more than I don't like Rashan, but I want to hear from Kara why Rashans vote on Galain was suspicious, any ideas there Thry?

[Karatallid]

D'riss, on Jun 23 2009, 02:52 PM, said:

Here it is. Why is this questionable? Am I missing something, I know its OMGUS, but he admits its probably a shitty waste of a vote. Kara, what am I missing?

It's OMGUS and a shitty waste of a vote, yes. No, you're not missing anything. It's questionable because it's OMGUS and a shitty waste of a vote.

[Thyrllan]

Gamelon, on Jun 23 2009, 04:06 PM, said:

Thyr....You dont see any merit in the case on Tellan?

as I see it, Rashan is saying things and making votes that are inexplicable, while Tallann is completely wrong but at least maybe understandable - dumb but understandable. if rashan goes through to tomorrow he starts making up all kidns of weird reasoning lies, if tellann goes through he can try and not making such poor decisions. i just perceive rashan as the bigger threat right now and would lynch him

[D'riss]

Barghast, on Jun 23 2009, 10:14 AM, said:

@Driss/Kara, Rashan's vote explanation is a little suspect in my mind for a couple of reasons. First, reading Galain's post, I don't get much of a sense of "overzealousness". And second, Rash gives a throwaway comment about how he should be voting for someone contributing fluff. Well, why not actually do so, or at least give an example of someone who fits the description? If it was just a lazy omgus, I would probably ignore it, but he seems to have actually thought about it - and then downplay it. Either it's a lazy omgus or a real argument, but he tries to pass it off as both.


And Thryllans right, the compulsion is a night action so I don't think the pre-selected infected can be compelled.

OK, fair enough, but I just can't seem to wrap my mind around scum/DG being so very very obvious, adding in the vote for night, which of course will possibly get him lynched. Granted, right now, I won't vote Rash because of that, again, too much WIFOM, but I'll switch closer to the deadline just to get the lynch if I have to, wouldn't be the first time I've over thought someones play.

[Thyrllan]

D'riss, on Jun 23 2009, 04:21 PM, said:

Barghast, on Jun 23 2009, 10:14 AM, said:

@Driss/Kara, Rashan's vote explanation is a little suspect in my mind for a couple of reasons. First, reading Galain's post, I don't get much of a sense of "overzealousness". And second, Rash gives a throwaway comment about how he should be voting for someone contributing fluff. Well, why not actually do so, or at least give an example of someone who fits the description? If it was just a lazy omgus, I would probably ignore it, but he seems to have actually thought about it - and then downplay it. Either it's a lazy omgus or a real argument, but he tries to pass it off as both.


And Thryllans right, the compulsion is a night action so I don't think the pre-selected infected can be compelled.

OK, fair enough, but I just can't seem to wrap my mind around scum/DG being so very very obvious, adding in the vote for night, which of course will possibly get him lynched. Granted, right now, I won't vote Rash because of that, again, too much WIFOM, but I'll switch closer to the deadline just to get the lynch if I have to, wouldn't be the first time I've over thought someones play.

heh, he better not be a secret jester!

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 2 hours and 39 minutes remaining

21 Players still alive: Ampelas, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Galain, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Karatallid, Kaschan, Korlat, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Rashan, Serc, Silanah, Tellan, Thyrllan

11 votes to lynch, 11 votes to go to night

1 vote for Galain: ( Rashan )
7 votes for Tellan: ( Liosan, Ampelas, Barghast, Emurlahn, Mockra, Korlat, D'riss )
1 vote for Eloth: ( Serc )
5 votes for Rashan: ( Tellan, Galain, Omtose, Thyrllan, Karatallid )
1 vote for Thyrllan: ( Hood's Path )

Players not voted: Eloth, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Kaschan, Meanas, Silanah