[Kaschan]

Liosan, on Jun 29 2009, 12:37 PM, said:

Most suspicious quotes from Kaschan:

Kaschan, on Jun 23 2009, 02:28 PM, said:

Hi all , sorry I missed so much of yesterday. Seriously you're on TV for less than 15 seconds, and suddenly everyone wants to throw you a party. I ended up falling asleep during my reread. So, not pleased with the result, but if I'd been around Id have been on the train too. Now, some thoughts on the day that stood out to me

Serc, on Jun 22 2009, 07:37 PM, said:

There should be a 20 question quiz on the rules before the game, if you get 70% or below, you can't play.

I agree with this, it should be mafia law.

Ampelas, on Jun 23 2009, 11:49 AM, said:

crosspost.

Saint order of ejaculation? WTF I have to read that book!

agreed, gonna hit up the library on my way home from the cottage

Liosan, on Jun 23 2009, 01:13 PM, said:

@Galain: I know you were agreeing most of the time, and maybe I misinterpreted the post I quoted, but I was looking for even the subtlest hints of nay-saying. The DG's not gonna come out and say, "don't reveal, don't reveal, don't reveal." He's more likely going to appear agreeable, but drop subtle nay-says like that.

And something relevant, I don't believe Galain is the only person to throw these subtle nay-sayings around. I remember several people mentioning the danger of an SO resulting from inf reveal, and there were at least 2 other people who subtly tried to discourage reveals by focusing on the cons, while overtly siding with the pros. Not sure who they were, but I remember more than just Galain doing it.

Now, as for Rash, I think he was no more suspicious than Tellan to me during reread, but after that post at the top of the page, I think he's gonna get my early vote for the coming day.

Finally, has anyone seen Year One? I'm trying to decide what movie to see tonight and that one intrigues me.

This is his sum-up after day one, and it's pretty indicative of his post style for the entire game. A lot of post-padding about pop-culture and nonsense, with a little serious business thrown in.

The serious part from this post raises my eyebrows, however, as he doesn't even acknowledge my giant, hard-to-miss post on all the people discouraging infected reveals. He's like, "Wait, Lio, there were others," and I'm like, "Yeah, duh." I would think that the DG would have noticed my post, but maybe he did and is just conveniently forgetting it so that he can post content without it actually being useful content. It's kinda a WIFOM analysis, but the post is curious either way.

Kaschan, on Jun 23 2009, 05:33 PM, said:

*snip useless pop-culture stuff*
And now, my conclusion about Rashan. he's not the DG. I really couldn't say why I think this, but I figure someone with that much power and that much spotlight wouldn't come out like that and be as shit-fucked stupid as Rash has been. However, as Galain so nicely pointed out, his last statement proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that he's not town. And that's really all I need to know about him at this point.

:avote: Rashan

If you read this from the point of view that he's the DG, it makes perfect sense. It's almost too obvious, though.

He then does some post summaries of the low-posters to appear useful. The end of his series of posts ends with this:

Kaschan, on Jun 23 2009, 11:25 PM, said:

Okay, seems the last person I'm gonna get to tonight it Amp. Again, role speculation is the bulk of his few posts, but I don't think that's grounds for scumminess. Uh, just to clarify I'm not looking at low posters exclusively, I know I am one, but I'm looking at them first because I could finish more reads in less time and go to bed, before I fall asleep at my keyboard again. I'll continue working my way up the ladder in the morning, but will leave my vote on Rash, because he's stuck in my mind as scummy and clearly doesn't care about the inno team. Goodnight everyone.

He admits to going after the low-posters because it's easier, which I found incredibly odd. Yes, he's not building cases per-se, but he's trying to provide content and is going for the easiest, least-wave-creating way of doing so. Also he says he'll continue the next day and never does.

Kaschan, on Jun 26 2009, 03:19 PM, said:

Oh. My. GODWUTTHEHELLWEREYOUTHINKING!!!!!!

...

Back and caught up. HP, if its true you're a moron. If its false, its not like we can disprove it beyond shadow of doubt, because if u really are infected, we won't get your name. GAH! I hate stupidity.

vote Mockra

Because I do care.

I find his reaction to HP's reveal odd, as he almost expresses a desire to lynch him, something I don't think any of us were thinking, but then is like, "no, wait, that's a bad idea, because, umm, he could be infected."

Kaschan, on Jun 27 2009, 01:31 PM, said:

*snip large Galain quote*
Well then, if your numbers are right, there's only 2-3 people I can vote for that aren't either scum or DG team. At the moment, however, any vote I could lay down just now is perfectly random. The only person currently alive whose play has so far seemed more or less detrimental to the team is Meanas, and that's because I don't remember anything at all of content from him. So, until I've finished reading over the other living people,

vote Meanas

Not much in this vote, but it does seem to be the easiest way out again. Claims earlier that he wasn't making cases against low-posters, but then votes for a low-poster; someone who is likely not going to defend himself more than "I'll post more later."

Kaschan, on Jun 28 2009, 08:57 PM, said:

Back. Barghast, since you wanted me to respond to your case, I think I mentioned it holds no merit. Its based on me not posting a lot, well, when other people are on and talking I insert myself in discussion any time I feel I have something valid to say. Most of the time, however, I'll come on, catch up, add an opinion (which is more than the other lowposters do most of the time) and notice that I'm either the only one on, or one of 2 or 3 on. And the others don't say anything for, like, an hour so I stop focusing on the individual pixels of my last post and go play CoD4, my game of the week. I'm also the only one on right now, so I'll be returning to CoD4 after I finish this post.

Now, the cases on Galain and Lio...I think Lio raises the most red flags right now, so I'll

remove vote
vote Lio

and wholeheartedly support the idea of disinfecting Galain. I'll continue to check back every hour, but I don't expect much. P-S, what time will you be starting the clock?

I might be biased, but this vote seems pretty scummy to me. Jumps on the Liosan train with what basically amounts to, "I agree." Also included is a defense of his play style, for what it's worth.

Kaschan, on Jun 29 2009, 11:22 AM, said:

Okay, caught up. You guys were busy last night. For the record, I did say that Galain was probably not scum/DG. Or at least, the case on him was shit.

Korlat, on Jun 29 2009, 12:06 AM, said:

And how come I get shit for not posting enough but everyone just glazes over Meanas? He's posted less than I have!

Dude, Meanas got his share of shit. He had 2 or 3 votes on him at one point, but they all piled on to Galain...

Emurlahn, on Jun 29 2009, 11:03 AM, said:

i think it proves they can talk off thread, but does nought for their alignment.

kaschan and meanas are two total unknowns in my view, i hope neither is roled or we could be in for a long hall.

Well, afaik, everyone is roled, but I have no night action, since that's what I suspect you mean. I'll gladly reveal if you think it would be appropriate.

My list of people are as follows:

PI:
Game
HP
Myself(Cuz I know I'm inno)

Tentative PI:
Lio
Korlat

This leaves 6 and unless we were lucky and killed a scum with one of the infs, after tonight they'll all CF anti-town.

Someone said Emu seemed PI, and while I agree he hasn't gotten much heat, I hardly believe him to be innocent.

Again, a sum-up post of his raises my eyebrows. First of all, the underline. What the hell is that? Why on earth would you hint at being roled? At night no less? And you're saying you will reveal whenever Emu feels it's appropriate? I don't even know what to make of this, but it's suspicious as hell.

Also, he does a very "duh" list of CIs and possible CIs at the end, again trying to give us content without actually giving us content.

Uh, we're all roled. We all have a name and some kind of flavour text. We simply don't all have a special ability. I wasn't specifically asking for Emu's opinion, I was asking the thread, since you all claim me to be totally unreadable and are starting to focus more and more one me, instead of the now 5 remaining scum people. I actually should move one of Lio or Korlat down to the infected list but I don't know which one. If one lover is lynched do both go?

And don't dis my list. Of course its duh, so have all the others been. But I thought since everyone else was posting theirs, I might as well post mine. We have one DG and 2 infs, because its safe to assume he's recruited every night and with HP and Game out in the open, he can't miss. I haven't been infected, nor am I scum/DG. We also have at least 2 scum, likely 3, although we can hope that one of them is also an inf. I would start my hunt with Meanas atm, but I don't really know how close he is to modkill and I'd prefer we didn't have to waste a lynch on him if he's close to that deadline. I recall a case on Barghast, I'll go review his posts, see what I see.

[Kaschan]

Emurlahn, on Jun 29 2009, 12:47 PM, said:

well his vote for me was decidedly fishy, i wonder if that was how he was trying to appear infected by giving a most preposterous case.

Wtf, when did I vote for you?

[Galayn Lord]

Killers got an infected, good.

That leaves what, a DG and 2 infected? DG 2.0 WCS?

and around 3 scum, unless we have dropped a couple as infecteds.

Gamelon, do you have any information you would care to share with us?

[Emurlahn]

time for some revealling

Gamelon, on Jun 22 2009, 08:33 AM, said:

Hey hey hey

Took me a bit of rereading to get to grips with the game specs. (still having my morning coffee)
But it think i know whats going on now.

The doppelgangers are the scum.
The infected are like in between scum and inno.
And the Ambergris peeps are town.

I was placing the doppelgangers and infected as the same thing there for a minute and was mightily confused.

Seems a decent setup, almost cult like but much more balanced with infected being abled to be cured.
I doubt we are going to get names in the CF are we?
Or what would the point be of making duncan shriek CF infected.

Emurlahn, on Jun 22 2009, 10:25 AM, said:

ages since the last game!

I almost was begin to lose hope for this one ever starting.
Imagine the heartache of another week bored in work with no mafia.

interesting set up as well. Straight in with speculation by players.

Wonders i do, where the rp is in this Wast city (perhaps you should change that), and indeed, having not read the books, what rp is appropriate?

this is how you set up a fake reveal when playing as a symp

and this is where you tell everyone your role

Emurlahn, on Jun 22 2009, 10:35 AM, said:

i must be surrounded by cause everyone just disappeared.

you guessed it i am an infected ninja symp. poor killer is about to get fucked sideways. sorry about this.

Emurlahn, on Jun 26 2009, 08:27 PM, said:

i for one welcome our new doppleganger overlord

thats how to ask for infection.

Emurlahn, on Jun 24 2009, 08:38 AM, said:

true.

i would also like to point out to any speed lynchers that it might not be in our best interest to try and purposefully catch the infected out. The chances that the DG hit a killer with infection are just as low as the chances that we lynch one so do not be so quick to hope we end day without them voting as we would be greatly benefitting the killers by shrinking the player pool. Also the infected will return to normal if we can get dg and dg2 so if we can discover who they are we can either heal them or keep them in check.

It would be very funny if a symp where to become infected I wonder how long morgy's game mechanics would stand up to that scenario.

how you foresee the future

Emurlahn, on Jun 24 2009, 08:16 AM, said:

You mean your not? And there i was getting ready to hold your hand and whisper sweet nothings in your ear while giving you directions to the bathroom and the fridge by two pieces of string... wait a minute, thats minority report...

late night movies and work do not mix.

how to tell your master what to do even though he ignores you.

and then you tell him he is scum and dont vote

Emurlahn, on Jun 24 2009, 08:24 AM, said:

Barghast, on Jun 24 2009, 08:15 AM, said:

That sounds like an omgus case.

What's the difference between making a case and saying something sounds scummy? Scum summarize, not push people, and you seem to be adverse to being pushed. Sure, I didn't vote for you, because it's just a preliminary look (which, given your number of posts is all I can do really).

As for my vote on Rashan, long-story-short I don't believe him. That's not likely to change through more discussion over the next several hours, because Rashan has yet to present anything believable despite several tries.

Sounds like or is? and you just complained about being called a noob? its not that i dont enjoy being pushed, its that i enjoy pushing back. Whats wrong with my post count? I havent been writing lots of nonesense about dragon sex or fucking porno disney so i am not saying enough?

Your vote on rashan stinks as the day has just begun and you are putting him in a position where he is the only viable lynch. We are ina game where someone can make the infected vote a specific way or risk losing them and your immeadiate course of actuion is to choose yesterdays left overs? Not only is it the easy lynch its the lazy one and if we are looking to catch out the infected or the dg by a lynch this is our best shot.

you would think he gets the fucking message.

like here

Emurlahn, on Jun 29 2009, 10:06 AM, said:

i aint being a pussy but if team evil has four players and we havent hit any and the dg hasnt hit any we are creepign up tot the point where they will have a majority. Plus it aint me i am worried about, when you have four CI sitting alive at this point its you lot who should be worried. Especially when 2 of them could also be infected (cheers korlat). If we can take out one killer then yeah we should be all gung ho about the dg, but we havent looked at killers once this game and its starting to make me worried about peoples priorities. We know there is only one infected out there and we have a pretty good idea where they are likely to be as well. So dg 2 isnt the great worry you are trying to make out.

fact is we have a dg finder out int he open and CI, maybe during the day we go for who we find suspicious and possibly BOTH and you investigate the others with your disinfect. Can you remind me of who you have disinfected?

and here, explicitly telling the pillock to take out either liosan or korlat as we are fucked while they are still there

or here when i told him i was going for hp

Emurlahn, on Jun 26 2009, 09:12 PM, said:

i am gonna vig him, someone help me please i beg you. anymroe of this and my brain will melt.

caus ei didnt vig thyrllan and i knew he was also a symp as he used the term killer everytime after driss died.

DRISS AND BARGHAST ARE THE KILLERS AND THYRLLAN AND I WERE THE SYMPS. I HAVE BEEN INFECTED. I AM A NINJA. DUNCAN, PREPARE TO DIE.

[Liosan]

I can't find any subtle hints in his posts that he was infected. He coulda been the DG, but with the BP, I think it's unlikely the DG would get NKed, unless there are more killing roles than it appears...

The scum could have hit him night 1 (along with a vig kill or something), then, after night 2 made it look like there was no healer, they went back to him because a BP means chances are good he was the DG (obviously they waited until after the festival to be sure the kill would go through). It's the best theory I can come up with for a DG death. Otherwise, it looks like it was just another random infected death (which is better than a town death, at least).

[Liosan]

Crosspost, oh my.

[Emurlahn]

that was me being subtle

[Emurlahn]

any questions before gamelon and i go splat?

[Liosan]

Yeah, so your role is like a suicide bomb? Does it end day?

[Emurlahn]

no, you can go on and lynch.

[Kaschan]

Emurlahn, on Jun 29 2009, 01:11 PM, said:

any questions before gamelon and i go splat?

Uh, yeah, is DG v2 up, or do we still have to find 1?

[Emurlahn]

i dont have that info. killing duncan will make me a symp but of course kill me. also i am now part of that faction so no info it that respect.

had fun, surprised by how little suspicion fell on me or barghast tbh.

[Liosan]

remove vote

Until this nonsense is cleared up. I dunno if Game tried to disinfect me last night, and I don't want people to keep accusing me of being compelled.

[Emurlahn]

not like i tried to play nice either.

sorry bout the ninja dk

[Emurlahn]

wheres a bloody mod when you need one?

[Liosan]

Urgh, crosspost!

I know this looks silly, but I can't edit votes, so

Vote Kaschan

since day isn't ending.

[Emurlahn]

your not going to vote of the last scum then? interesting.

[Path-Shaper]

Gimme a moment.

[Kaschan]

Uh, wtf? We have a confirmed killer and you don't wanna fix this problem? I call compulsed infected on you.

Cross, @Lio

This post has been edited by Kaschan: 29 June 2009 - 05:28 PM

[Emurlahn]

i was compelled to vote kaschan but i thought killing dunc might be a better idea.

yeah right