Most suspicious quotes from Kaschan:
Kaschan, on Jun 23 2009, 02:28 PM, said:
Hi all , sorry I missed so much of yesterday. Seriously you're on TV for less than 15 seconds, and suddenly everyone wants to throw you a party. I ended up falling asleep during my reread. So, not pleased with the result, but if I'd been around Id have been on the train too. Now, some thoughts on the day that stood out to me
Serc, on Jun 22 2009, 07:37 PM, said:
There should be a 20 question quiz on the rules before the game, if you get 70% or below, you can't play.
I agree with this, it should be mafia law.
Ampelas, on Jun 23 2009, 11:49 AM, said:
crosspost.
Saint order of ejaculation? WTF I have to read that book!
agreed, gonna hit up the library on my way home from the cottage
Liosan, on Jun 23 2009, 01:13 PM, said:
@Galain: I know you were agreeing most of the time, and maybe I misinterpreted the post I quoted, but I was looking for even the subtlest hints of nay-saying. The DG's not gonna come out and say, "don't reveal, don't reveal, don't reveal." He's more likely going to appear agreeable, but drop subtle nay-says like that.
And something relevant, I don't believe Galain is the only person to throw these subtle nay-sayings around. I remember several people mentioning the danger of an SO resulting from inf reveal, and
there were at least 2 other people who subtly tried to discourage reveals by focusing on the cons, while overtly siding with the pros. Not sure who they were, but I remember more than just Galain doing it.
Now, as for Rash, I think he was no more suspicious than Tellan to me during reread, but after that post at the top of the page, I think he's gonna get my early vote for the coming day.
Finally, has anyone seen Year One? I'm trying to decide what movie to see tonight and that one intrigues me.
This is his sum-up after day one, and it's pretty indicative of his post style for the entire game.
A lot of post-padding about pop-culture and nonsense, with a little serious business thrown in.
The serious part from this post raises my eyebrows, however, as he doesn't even acknowledge my giant, hard-to-miss post on all the people discouraging infected reveals. He's like, "Wait, Lio, there were others," and I'm like, "Yeah, duh." I would think that the DG would have noticed my post, but maybe he did and is just conveniently forgetting it so that he can post content without it actually being useful content. It's kinda a WIFOM analysis, but the post is curious either way.
Kaschan, on Jun 23 2009, 05:33 PM, said:
*snip useless pop-culture stuff*
And now, my conclusion about Rashan. he's not the DG. I really couldn't say why I think this, but I figure someone with that much power and that much spotlight wouldn't come out like that and be as shit-fucked stupid as Rash has been. However, as Galain so nicely pointed out, his last statement proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that he's not town. And that's really all I need to know about him at this point.
:avote: Rashan
If you read this from the point of view that he's the DG, it makes perfect sense. It's almost too obvious, though.
He then does some post summaries of the low-posters to appear useful. The end of his series of posts ends with this:
Kaschan, on Jun 23 2009, 11:25 PM, said:
Okay, seems the last person I'm gonna get to tonight it Amp. Again, role speculation is the bulk of his few posts, but I don't think that's grounds for scumminess. Uh, just to clarify I'm not looking at low posters exclusively, I know I am one, but I'm looking at them first because I could finish more reads in less time and go to bed, before I fall asleep at my keyboard again. I'll continue working my way up the ladder in the morning, but will leave my vote on Rash, because he's stuck in my mind as scummy and clearly doesn't care about the inno team. Goodnight everyone.
He admits to going after the low-posters because it's easier, which I found incredibly odd. Yes, he's not building cases per-se, but he's trying to provide content and is going for the easiest, least-wave-creating way of doing so. Also he says he'll continue the next day and never does.
Kaschan, on Jun 26 2009, 03:19 PM, said:
Oh. My. GODWUTTHEHELLWEREYOUTHINKING!!!!!!
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Back and caught up. HP, if its true you're a moron. If its false, its not like we can disprove it beyond shadow of doubt, because if u really are infected, we won't get your name. GAH! I hate stupidity.
vote Mockra
Because I do care.
I find his reaction to HP's reveal odd, as he almost expresses a desire to lynch him, something I don't think any of us were thinking, but then is like, "no, wait, that's a bad idea, because, umm, he could be infected."
Kaschan, on Jun 27 2009, 01:31 PM, said:
*snip large Galain quote*
Well then, if your numbers are right, there's only 2-3 people I can vote for that aren't either scum or DG team. At the moment, however, any vote I could lay down just now is perfectly random. The only person currently alive whose play has so far seemed more or less detrimental to the team is Meanas, and that's because I don't remember anything at all of content from him. So, until I've finished reading over the other living people,
vote Meanas
Not much in this vote, but it does seem to be the easiest way out again. Claims earlier that he wasn't making cases against low-posters, but then votes for a low-poster; someone who is likely not going to defend himself more than "I'll post more later."
Kaschan, on Jun 28 2009, 08:57 PM, said:
Back. Barghast, since you wanted me to respond to your case, I think I mentioned it holds no merit. Its based on me not posting a lot, well, when other people are on and talking I insert myself in discussion any time I feel I have something valid to say. Most of the time, however, I'll come on, catch up, add an opinion (which is more than the other lowposters do most of the time) and notice that I'm either the only one on, or one of 2 or 3 on. And the others don't say anything for, like, an hour so I stop focusing on the individual pixels of my last post and go play CoD4, my game of the week. I'm also the only one on right now, so I'll be returning to CoD4 after I finish this post.
Now, the cases on Galain and Lio...I think Lio raises the most red flags right now, so I'll
remove vote
vote Lio
and wholeheartedly support the idea of disinfecting Galain. I'll continue to check back every hour, but I don't expect much. P-S, what time will you be starting the clock?
I might be biased, but this vote seems pretty scummy to me. Jumps on the Liosan train with what basically amounts to, "I agree." Also included is a defense of his play style, for what it's worth.
Kaschan, on Jun 29 2009, 11:22 AM, said:
Okay, caught up. You guys were busy last night. For the record, I did say that Galain was probably not scum/DG. Or at least, the case on him was shit.
Korlat, on Jun 29 2009, 12:06 AM, said:
And how come I get shit for not posting enough but everyone just glazes over Meanas? He's posted less than I have!
Dude, Meanas got his share of shit. He had 2 or 3 votes on him at one point, but they all piled on to Galain...
Emurlahn, on Jun 29 2009, 11:03 AM, said:
i think it proves they can talk off thread, but does nought for their alignment.
kaschan and meanas are two total unknowns in my view, i hope neither is roled or we could be in for a long hall.
Well, afaik, everyone is roled, but I have no night action, since that's what I suspect you mean.
I'll gladly reveal if you think it would be appropriate.
My list of people are as follows:
PI:
Game
HP
Myself(Cuz I know I'm inno)
Tentative PI:
Lio
Korlat
This leaves 6 and unless we were lucky and killed a scum with one of the infs, after tonight they'll all CF anti-town.
Someone said Emu seemed PI, and while I agree he hasn't gotten much heat, I hardly believe him to be innocent.
Again, a sum-up post of his raises my eyebrows. First of all, the underline. What the hell is that? Why on earth would you hint at being roled? At night no less? And you're saying you will reveal whenever
Emu feels it's appropriate? I don't even know what to make of this, but it's suspicious as hell.
Also, he does a very "duh" list of CIs and possible CIs at the end, again trying to give us content without actually giving us content.
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