Mafia 47 - City of Saints and Madmen Festival of the Squid, and other horros
#1421
Posted 28 June 2009 - 04:15 PM
Cause unfortunately Galain do you think that anyone will be willing to follow me on a case on Liosan, while at the same time Gamelon is leading a lynch on you?
#1422
Posted 28 June 2009 - 04:47 PM
Galain, on Jun 28 2009, 05:08 PM, said:
Also, Ampelas, if you think a FM, then how does that compare with Emur's reveal that he vigged Thyr?
He's a FM. Look at his recent posts : no caps to start the sentences, like Thyrllan.
vote Emurlahn
This post has been edited by Ampelas: 28 June 2009 - 04:48 PM
#1423
Posted 28 June 2009 - 04:54 PM
Hood's Path, on Jun 28 2009, 09:15 AM, said:
Cause unfortunately Galain do you think that anyone will be willing to follow me on a case on Liosan, while at the same time Gamelon is leading a lynch on you?
Uh, Game hasn't found any scum any better than I have, or you have, or Liosan has. All he is is VPI with theories.
Besides, do you honestly think I am the DG (yes, I realize Game thinks I am scum)? Here's the math: Today is D-Day for the DG if we lynch a non-inf, non-DG, and the killers do not kill an inf. The DG only controls 3 of 12 votes right now. But if you lynch me, or anyone but an infected/DG (again, I'd wager the game on Lio being the DG), the DG WINS the game.
Here's how I'm pretty sure it is
Today (DG has 3 of 12 votes)
3 DG/Inf (Lio +2)
3/4 Scum
6/5 Town
Tomorrow if you lynch a non DG/Inf (DG has 4 of 10 votes)
4 DG/Inf (Lio + 3) (one person infected)
6 Scum OR Town (doesn't matter which gets lynched today TBH, math works the same)
Next day if you lynch the DG (DG has 4 of 8 votes because the new DG takes over and recruits someone else)
4 DG/Inf (Whoever + 3) (one person infected)
4 Scum OR Town.
And the DG wins with a lynch majority.
Now the killers may wait to see what the CF is today and if it's town, they may try to take out an infected to keep themselves in the game, and that could throw off the DG's math quite a bit, so it's not 100% D-Day for sure, but I personally would rather not rely on the killers to take out an inf, even if I'm confident that Eloth is one, simply because that's error-prone speculation.
For Town, today is essentially D-Day.
edit: phrasing
This post has been edited by Galain: 28 June 2009 - 04:57 PM
#1424
Posted 28 June 2009 - 04:58 PM
Ampelas, on Jun 28 2009, 09:47 AM, said:
Pretty sure all special roles were stated at the start of the game... why the hell would a FM randomly be in the game except to stupidly fuck with town? Even if it is a FM, does that mean the FM has been around all game? Did he jump Night 2 as well as Night 4?
#1425
Posted 28 June 2009 - 05:39 PM
If there was going to be a FM, I would think there would have been mention.
Also if you were fm wouldn't you learn how to mimic the person you were going to jump to.
Also if you were fm wouldn't you learn how to mimic the person you were going to jump to.
#1426
Posted 28 June 2009 - 05:48 PM
I got the timing wrong in my previous post. Only 3 nights so far.
I don't really buy the FM argument and now I'm wondering if Amp is trying to divert off of Liosan.
I don't really buy the FM argument and now I'm wondering if Amp is trying to divert off of Liosan.
#1427
Posted 28 June 2009 - 05:52 PM
#1428
Posted 28 June 2009 - 05:54 PM
Emurlahn, on Jun 24 2009, 03:57 PM, said:
Hood's Path, on Jun 24 2009, 03:51 PM, said:
I'm not sure, Rashan attitude is so obviously anti inno it could be to the point that he could be inno.
I have come across very few scum that come out intentially and say they are out for themselves, I have come across players who rather survive to the end of the game even if there actions are detrimental to their team. Which is stupid.
I have come across very few scum that come out intentially and say they are out for themselves, I have come across players who rather survive to the end of the game even if there actions are detrimental to their team. Which is stupid.
That seems to happen a lot, and its always very detrimental to our team. People seem to think being inno gives you the kudos to just be an asshole and somehow everyone else has to just know that your an inno cause it says so in your pm

At the end of the day i will switch to rashan if my vote is needed and it becomes inevitable, or i will follow through with gamelons idea and remove my vote to prove i havent been compulsed if i dont think i will be back before night falls.
@ampelas - i had to go back five days to find a post i started with a capital you prat

#1430
Posted 28 June 2009 - 08:59 PM
I suppose it makes sense to try and lynch the DG today. I can see liosan being the DG and would probably be willing to change my vote...
Sigh...
Sigh...
#1431
Posted 28 June 2009 - 09:06 PM
We have till tomorrow. Clock stopped? Good call morgy
ill see you all then. Ice a long day. Bed time for moi

#1433
Posted 28 June 2009 - 09:08 PM
i still think we are ignoring the low posters too much, but if you try disinfecting galain tonight and we lynch liosan i could go for that.
#1434
Posted 28 June 2009 - 09:16 PM
Depending on what Galain's disinfect comes back as we can then hopefully consider the low posters.
#1435 Guest_Barghast_*
Posted 28 June 2009 - 10:10 PM
You know, after reading Liosan's case and defense, I really get the sense of a smooth criminal*. A lynch of Liosan and a disenfect of Galain seems to be a good way to cover our bases based on the info we have.
Fancy that, Emur and I agree on something.
Vote Liosan
*Can't believe no one has used Michael Jackson in context yet. :'(
Fancy that, Emur and I agree on something.
Vote Liosan
*Can't believe no one has used Michael Jackson in context yet. :'(
#1436 Guest_Barghast_*
Posted 28 June 2009 - 10:18 PM
Gamelon, on Jun 29 2009, 08:59 AM, said:
I suppose it makes sense to try and lynch the DG today. I can see liosan being the DG and would probably be willing to change my vote...
Sigh...
Sigh...
Actually... if the argument is that Galain is scum and Liosan is DG, maybe I should be voting the other way around. WCS makes lynching the DG a major priority though... hard decision. I'll leave my vote where it is for the moment.
I've gotta head out the door for a bit, but I'll be back on in an hour or so.
#1437 Guest_Barghast_*
Posted 28 June 2009 - 11:36 PM
Well, ok then. One hour later, no posts, and no one else on.
I guess it'll pick up tomorrow. I'd still like to know what time the timer is supposed to start though.
I guess it'll pick up tomorrow. I'd still like to know what time the timer is supposed to start though.
#1438
Posted 29 June 2009 - 12:57 AM
Back. Barghast, since you wanted me to respond to your case, I think I mentioned it holds no merit. Its based on me not posting a lot, well, when other people are on and talking I insert myself in discussion any time I feel I have something valid to say. Most of the time, however, I'll come on, catch up, add an opinion (which is more than the other lowposters do most of the time) and notice that I'm either the only one on, or one of 2 or 3 on. And the others don't say anything for, like, an hour so I stop focusing on the individual pixels of my last post and go play CoD4, my game of the week. I'm also the only one on right now, so I'll be returning to CoD4 after I finish this post.
Now, the cases on Galain and Lio...I think Lio raises the most red flags right now, so I'll
remove vote
vote Lio
and wholeheartedly support the idea of disinfecting Galain. I'll continue to check back every hour, but I don't expect much. P-S, what time will you be starting the clock?
Now, the cases on Galain and Lio...I think Lio raises the most red flags right now, so I'll
remove vote
vote Lio
and wholeheartedly support the idea of disinfecting Galain. I'll continue to check back every hour, but I don't expect much. P-S, what time will you be starting the clock?
#1439
Posted 29 June 2009 - 01:13 AM
Just here a few mins before dinner and I want to say that I heartily embrace a disinfect tonight, even though I am pretty sure Eloth and either Meanas or Korlat are the infected (more sure about Eloth than Korlat). But if Lio's CF's infected and you still want to be sure, I'll gladly take it.
#1440
Posted 29 June 2009 - 02:21 AM
Okay, well, this exciting.
I hop on for a bit and see two others have bought into the fact that I'm so innocent, I must be guilty.
Lynching me and disinfecting Galain is kind of silly, by the way, as he could just as easily be a killer desperate to get another inno lynch off. Maybe he even actually thinks I am the DG, but for the life of me, I can't figure out why you guys are more suspicious of me then a guy who calls a case "meager" one day and "decent" the next. He's slipping up all over the place and you'd rather lynch off the guy who's just playing too well for his own good.
I don't even know how to respond to that.
Fine, fuck it. Because I don't know how much time there is left in the day and I don't know when Korlat is likely to show up again, I'm gonna reveal that we're inno powerless lovers.
I coded his name back in my second post (last letter of every other word):
Ok, couple of possibilities popped in my head:
Infected person comes forward and is then killed.
Infected person comes forward but scum crosses him off the list of potential threats and kills someone else.
Either killer or possible symp claiming infection, but very unlikely cause all it takes is the infected to come forward. This only works if the infected stays quiet for some reason.
The second possibility seems the most likely.
I think so, too. If their possible kill on a player might happen anyway (because of SO), they'd be much more likely to kill someone else.
I don't think Korlat coded my name, though, because, well, he hasn't done much of anything... I figure I might as well reveal it while we're both still alive since I wouldn't be able to prove it if he died.
So it doesn't prove we're not paired killers, of course, and I can't speak as to whether he's been infected, but whenever Korlat comes back, it will at least prove to you nub-heads that I'm not the DG.
And since this comment:
was so nonsensical it pissed me off,
Vote Galain
I hop on for a bit and see two others have bought into the fact that I'm so innocent, I must be guilty.
Lynching me and disinfecting Galain is kind of silly, by the way, as he could just as easily be a killer desperate to get another inno lynch off. Maybe he even actually thinks I am the DG, but for the life of me, I can't figure out why you guys are more suspicious of me then a guy who calls a case "meager" one day and "decent" the next. He's slipping up all over the place and you'd rather lynch off the guy who's just playing too well for his own good.
I don't even know how to respond to that.
Fine, fuck it. Because I don't know how much time there is left in the day and I don't know when Korlat is likely to show up again, I'm gonna reveal that we're inno powerless lovers.
I coded his name back in my second post (last letter of every other word):
Liosan, on Jun 22 2009, 10:42 AM, said:
Hood's Path, on Jun 22 2009, 10:25 AM, said:
Liosan, on Jun 22 2009, 07:14 AM, said:
Holla! Liosan in da house!
As per the discussion, I think the order of actions is a clear indication that either a) there is no healer, or
the heal doesn't work on synapse overload, since, as someone said above, it would just be too easy otherwise. If those are our two choices, though, I'm hoping for the latter.
Nonetheless, I think we should test it out to be sure. Could the first infected person please identify themselves so you can be our guinea pig?
As per the discussion, I think the order of actions is a clear indication that either a) there is no healer, or

Nonetheless, I think we should test it out to be sure. Could the first infected person please identify themselves so you can be our guinea pig?
Ok, couple of possibilities popped in my head:
Infected person comes forward and is then killed.
Infected person comes forward but scum crosses him off the list of potential threats and kills someone else.
Either killer or possible symp claiming infection, but very unlikely cause all it takes is the infected to come forward. This only works if the infected stays quiet for some reason.
The second possibility seems the most likely.
I think so, too. If their possible kill on a player might happen anyway (because of SO), they'd be much more likely to kill someone else.
I don't think Korlat coded my name, though, because, well, he hasn't done much of anything... I figure I might as well reveal it while we're both still alive since I wouldn't be able to prove it if he died.
So it doesn't prove we're not paired killers, of course, and I can't speak as to whether he's been infected, but whenever Korlat comes back, it will at least prove to you nub-heads that I'm not the DG.
And since this comment:
Galain, on Jun 28 2009, 12:01 PM, said:
WIFOM or no, I think there is ENOUGH WIFOM that I am pretty confident now that you are the DG.
was so nonsensical it pissed me off,
Vote Galain