[Emurlahn]

Yeah, but if Cult has been recruiting each night, minus the two current dead, that means they've got 5 recruits +/- the recruiter. That's how many again? O.o

Oh, that's right. That's more than enough to lynch. They'd fucking train today easy as piss, and game over.

[Korvalain]

Emurlahn, on Jun 15 2009, 04:36 AM, said:

Yeah, but if Cult has been recruiting each night, minus the two current dead, that means they've got 5 recruits +/- the recruiter. That's how many again? O.o

Oh, that's right. That's more than enough to lynch. They'd fucking train today easy as piss, and game over.

That's why I get the sense Meanas doesnt' "fit". The cult has not been able to recruit every night IMO, and I don't see anyone siding with him.

And HP... man... I get no respect for going after Fener and to a lesser extent Gamelon. Me and Rashan blah blah blah. Being ignored sux.

[Hood's Path]

liosan seems to not know why people think he couldd be cult....here is why
Here is liosan stating that Gamelon must have been "sucked into the limelight"
He doesnt even consider that gamelon could have been cult.

Liosan, on Jun 10 2009, 05:29 PM, said:

huh

so, mesmerists are doing the recruiting.

having read the book fully now, it makes sense.

it would seem Gamelon got tricked by morgy's reveal. ouch, sucks to be drawn into the limelight like that.

of course, there's always the possibility that Fener WAS heshette who got recruited.

hmm

This post seems like liosan has realized Gamelons mistake and is a fake attempt at looking like he is pissed off.
Just looks very contrived to me.

Liosan, on Jun 10 2009, 05:54 PM, said:

so, to clarify

Mesmerists are evil, spawn of hell type people.
Heshette are nomad tribesmen who worship the goddes of Heaven. They've been fighting Deepgate for ages, and now the rest of them, led by Ramnir took Cospinol's ship to the far western lands to fight the King of Hell there.

Gamelon, you realize what you've done by revealing,, right?
now tomorrow we will all be in the position knowing that you are a lowly symp, and thus a great recruit target. Meaning, people will want to lynch you a la fener.

and for the record: we have two dead Cohl's shades. But unlike what we're used to, these mercenaries work on personal basis. thus, they don't necessarily have to be on same team, and one of them was probably associated with the Mesmerists.

and am I the only one to notice Emu hasn't posted in a while?

More of this "sighing" and shit....like he has realized his team member has gamelon made a grave error.
If he were not cult he should be all happy that he has potentially found more cult ...no?

Liosan, on Jun 10 2009, 05:58 PM, said:

sigh
dude, if you're gonna throw a tantrum every time people are adamnt in not believing you, this may not be a game for you.

the only way this could be seen as differently is if liosan himself is heshette and he also got conned by fener.
This actually could be the case.
But I just thought i would lay out the reason why allot of people thought looking at liosan would be a good place to finish off the cult.
Liosan could easily be cult. Just allot more subtle with his symping.
Looks upset at his recruit...and at the same time is "distancing" because he knows there is going to be a strong case against him.

[Hood's Path]

Korvalain, on Jun 15 2009, 01:53 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on Jun 15 2009, 04:36 AM, said:

Yeah, but if Cult has been recruiting each night, minus the two current dead, that means they've got 5 recruits +/- the recruiter. That's how many again? O.o

Oh, that's right. That's more than enough to lynch. They'd fucking train today easy as piss, and game over.

That's why I get the sense Meanas doesnt' "fit". The cult has not been able to recruit every night IMO, and I don't see anyone siding with him.

And HP... man... I get no respect for going after Fener and to a lesser extent Gamelon. Me and Rashan blah blah blah. Being ignored sux.

you were right there with your votes i just noticed it now.

You never made any great big cases, but i was JUST there getting quotes on liosan and was JUST going to say that i think you are less likely to be a recruiter aswell.

and then you come out and say this...talk about timing.

[Hood's Path]

Emurlahn, on Jun 15 2009, 01:36 AM, said:

Yeah, but if Cult has been recruiting each night, minus the two current dead, that means they've got 5 recruits +/- the recruiter. That's how many again? O.o

Oh, that's right. That's more than enough to lynch. They'd fucking train today easy as piss, and game over.

I am pretty confident that cult cannot recruit every night...this game would be over fast with a cult victory of that was the case

[Korvalain]

I'll be back in 2 hours or so.

Edit: crosspost with HP. Nice. I came out on day...3? with my case on Fener. It was ignored by everybody.

This post has been edited by Korvalain: 15 June 2009 - 09:00 AM

[Hood's Path]

Ruse, on Jun 15 2009, 01:35 AM, said:

Look, I saw something I thought was suspicious and I pursued it. But what really concerned me was the inference that because Rashan had a case on me I wasn't permitted to look elsewhere, nor was I supposed to defend myself. You have to see that would make me push harder, and if it was to the detriment at looking at for any other cases then so be it.

At this moment I have no idea about anyone, there simply isn't enough info. We started off in the dark about our factions and the recruiter has made it so I can't trust anyone.

That said, I have to go out for a while. But I will be back!

All that is between you and rashan, i dont mind yoi looking elsewhere or you defending yourself. You are the one that has brought me into this with what to me seems a OMGUS counter case, so your elsewhere ended up being a on the very people that were looking at you. There is a reason the term OMGUS was invented you know.

You say there is no info...what about the liosan case?
let me see if i can dig it up.

Edit - refer to previous post 1283

I dug up the case and forgot to post this.....FUCIGN DUMB
pretend this post is before the liosan post one

This post has been edited by Hood's Path: 15 June 2009 - 09:01 AM

[Hood's Path]

Korvalain, on Jun 15 2009, 01:58 AM, said:

I'll be back in 2 hours or so.

Edit: crosspost with HP. Nice. I came out on day...3? with my case on Fener. It was ignored by everybody.

Its just that for some reason i have been "coupled" with rashan by others, there seems to be some kind of agenda behind this coupling.
You have been there and doing just what we have and have been ignored by every one is proof that its not only myself and rashan. We are just the most verbose and are getting pigeon holed because of it.

[Hood's Path]

how much time left?

[Emurlahn]

Well, I'm heading off to bed now. No way am I voting just yet - not with more than 24 hours left in the day. I kind of want to vote Meanas just to end the damn game, but that would be...silly and impulsive.

I will be back on in 8 hours. Willing to hammer then if the votes haven't swung, or if no-one else has. But I still want to look elsewhere...even though I haven't had time to do that today.

[Hood's Path]

Emurlahn, on Jun 15 2009, 02:54 AM, said:

Well, I'm heading off to bed now. No way am I voting just yet - not with more than 24 hours left in the day. I kind of want to vote Meanas just to end the damn game, but that would be...silly and impulsive.

I will be back on in 8 hours. Willing to hammer then if the votes haven't swung, or if no-one else has. But I still want to look elsewhere...even though I haven't had time to do that today.

I still havent voted so i can hammer aswell.
Also feel like just hammering to get the game moving...


I find it very revealing that you are all too keen to follow rashan now that he is not voting for ruse or liosan.
Shows i was right about you talking bs about rashan herding the sheep and more about you trying to protect someone.

heh heh


edit tight becomes right

This post has been edited by Hood's Path: 15 June 2009 - 10:33 AM

[Korvalain]

Emurlahn, on Jun 15 2009, 05:54 AM, said:

Well, I'm heading off to bed now. No way am I voting just yet - not with more than 24 hours left in the day. I kind of want to vote Meanas just to end the damn game, but that would be...silly and impulsive.

I will be back on in 8 hours. Willing to hammer then if the votes haven't swung, or if no-one else has. But I still want to look elsewhere...even though I haven't had time to do that today.

Well, I'm back. Not much happened obviously.

Does this underlined part mean you're party to some kind of endgame information? Mafia paranoia maybe, but stuff like that makes me nervous.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 8. 16 hours and 8 minutes remaining

9 Players still alive: Emurlahn, Hood's Path, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Rashan, Ruse, Telas, Tennes

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night

4 votes for Meanas: ( Liosan, Telas, Rashan, Korvalain )

Players not voted: Emurlahn, Hood's Path, Meanas, Ruse, Tennes

D'rek here. Going to start adding in new players with faceless men and jester abilities if you guys let it go to night without a lynch again...

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 15 June 2009 - 12:37 PM

[Meanas]

OK, well seems like I wasn't able to head off the speedlynch pileup in time .

Might as well give everyone a little info before you kill me off:

I am a guard, and have made the following actions:

Night 1: Hood's Path
Night 2: Korlat
Night 3: Hood's Path (wanted to see if there were no kills if I guarded him again...but there were two)
Night 4: Rashan
Night 5: Tennes
Night 6: D'riss
Night 7: Korvalain

Now, whether these guards were actually useful, I don't know. I figure I probably blocked something from Korlat on Night 2. The lack of NKs means that I really have no way to gauge how effective I was. I don't know, I guess you probably won't look at this and say "Oh, there's no way he's not cult now", but I figure it's a start.

[Korvalain]

No one has a comment on this? My instinct is to remove my vote, but at the same time that's what we did on Fener and ended up with a day 2 no lynch.

Unfortunately, those guard actions don't mean anything to me, yay or nay.

[Liosan]

hmm
Meanas, a character reveal may probably be more prudent. Claming you're a guard leaves us neither here nor there, as we have no real way to confirm/disprove that without lynching you.

[Meanas]

I was considering a character reveal, but I didn't see how that would help me - it immediately reveals anyone who removes their votes as in my faction, and is still no guarantee that I'm not cult.

I mean, if I'm recruited cult, then I give you the name I had before I got recruited (I'm making the assumption that Cult CFs are changed to "The Mesmerist"), then you won't be able to tell if I'm telling the truth or not unless you lynch me and I CF as something other than "The Mesmerist" anyway. The same thing happens if I'm not recruited cult. So I don't see that I gain much from a character reveal...

[Meanas]

Korvalain, on Jun 15 2009, 07:57 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on Jun 15 2009, 05:54 AM, said:

Well, I'm heading off to bed now. No way am I voting just yet - not with more than 24 hours left in the day. I kind of want to vote Meanas just to end the damn game, but that would be...silly and impulsive.

I will be back on in 8 hours. Willing to hammer then if the votes haven't swung, or if no-one else has. But I still want to look elsewhere...even though I haven't had time to do that today.

Well, I'm back. Not much happened obviously.

Does this underlined part mean you're party to some kind of endgame information? Mafia paranoia maybe, but stuff like that makes me nervous.

Yeah, that sounds kind of bad to me...

Vote Emurlahn

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 8. 20 hours and 46 minutes remaining

9 Players still alive: Emurlahn, Hood's Path, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Rashan, Ruse, Telas, Tennes

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night

1 vote for Emurlahn: ( Meanas )
4 votes for Meanas: ( Liosan, Telas, Rashan, Korvalain )

Players not voted: Emurlahn, Hood's Path, Ruse, Tennes

[Telas]

Meanas, on Jun 13 2009, 09:49 PM, said:

Ruse, on Jun 13 2009, 05:55 PM, said:

July eh? Which year?

Seriously, do you think it's the lack of night kills that have slowed it down? If so, do you think any killers are now dead, or are there some super smart other roles? Or is that all irrelevant?

The lack of NKs definitely stretches out the game. If there had been one a night, we'd be down to what, 6 players now? And in the endgame people have to plead their cases a bit harder. As for the reasons why there aren't any, I have no idea. Seems unlikely that it's just tons of guards and healers though, because you'd expect them to have got it wrong a few times by now...probably some kind of odd mechanic in play. My understanding of the books leads me to believe that Carnival was a killer, so we're likely to be one down after Korlat's death, but you'd still expect some deaths at night by this point. Probably some kind of weird mechanic in play regarding the kills, not going to try to guess what it is because the possibilities are pretty much limitless.

So this is just a random quote of Meanas complaining about the lack of NKs and the length of the game. I gotta wonder why at this point you're even putting in guards every night. If I were a guard, I think I would have stopped a few nights ago in the hopes of speeding up the game, since the act of guarding gets you zero information from one night to the next when there are never any kills. It gives you *some* control of the game if you don't guard you leader and you expect him to make good decisions with his night actions, but then, if your list is truthful, you've pretty much just pointed to your leader. I mean, it's not me, and the only other people you haven't blocked are Liosan and Emur. Emur's the more likely choice as he came to your defense after Lio's and my vote today (I believe it said in the setup that even leaders are given the name of someone in their faction, so it's plausible that he knows who you are). Or you could be a leader yourself and just not blocked the other power role on your team (again, probably Emur).

Also, I just wanted to point out, for what it's worth, that if I were to make a fake list of people I have supposedly guarded over the nights, I'm not sure I could come up with a better one. You've got a big string of names of people who are still alive (plus Korlat on a night with no kills to add credibility) in the hopes of getting lucky and somebody actually having their action fail on the night you listed them. Given the lack of killing at night, I can only assume there are definitely people having failed actions, but I don't think it's necessarily due to guarding.