[Hood's Path]

Korvalain, on Jun 11 2009, 06:04 AM, said:

If Gam comes up tribesman, my head will asplode.

yea....would be some shocking play right there.

[D'riss]

Korvalain, on Jun 11 2009, 03:04 PM, said:

D'riss, on Jun 11 2009, 07:52 AM, said:

So Fener was the recruiter? Seems to be the consensus. This leaves me very confused as to why he had so much support on day 3.

Lynching Gam does seem like the obvious choice for today - HP's words ring very true. That said we shouldn't be too hasty. Does anyone think there may be a back-up recruiter? Like I said before - Gam's reveal sounded pretty believable, so he's more than likely just a recruit. I would also expect there to be one or two other recruits, it definitely wouldnt hurt to start looking for them, I think the first few days deserve a good reread in light of the new information we have.

??? If Gam's reveal is believable? I thought the idea was that Gam would likely only stick his neck out was if Fener was a cult leader and Gam was recruited. Which is what you concluded...but I can't wrap my head around that sentence. If we assume Gam was recruited, how could his reveal be believable?

If Gam comes up non-cult...do we have to assume the possibility that power roles can become cult? I wouldn't think so, since Fener seemed so worried about Korlat. However, I just dont understand why Gam would wig out about a lesser team member getting lynched. He had to know Fener was important in some capacity -either as his former tribal leader or as cult leader.
If Gam comes up tribesman, my head will asplode.

I meant that the information that Gam put forward in his reveal (the tribesmen following Anchor) hadnt been mentioned anywhere in thread before that. Granted Fener was one of the people who confirmed it, but I think Lio did too. So unless Gam actually does know what's happening in the books and has been keeping the fact secret all game, then it's likely he was told that in his role PM. Meaning that as likely as it is that he is part of the cult now, he was recruited into it and is not one of the original members. Hence my thoughts about looking around while the day is still young.

[Hood's Path]

D'riss, on Jun 11 2009, 06:17 AM, said:

Korvalain, on Jun 11 2009, 03:04 PM, said:

D'riss, on Jun 11 2009, 07:52 AM, said:

So Fener was the recruiter? Seems to be the consensus. This leaves me very confused as to why he had so much support on day 3.

Lynching Gam does seem like the obvious choice for today - HP's words ring very true. That said we shouldn't be too hasty. Does anyone think there may be a back-up recruiter? Like I said before - Gam's reveal sounded pretty believable, so he's more than likely just a recruit. I would also expect there to be one or two other recruits, it definitely wouldnt hurt to start looking for them, I think the first few days deserve a good reread in light of the new information we have.

??? If Gam's reveal is believable? I thought the idea was that Gam would likely only stick his neck out was if Fener was a cult leader and Gam was recruited. Which is what you concluded...but I can't wrap my head around that sentence. If we assume Gam was recruited, how could his reveal be believable?

If Gam comes up non-cult...do we have to assume the possibility that power roles can become cult? I wouldn't think so, since Fener seemed so worried about Korlat. However, I just dont understand why Gam would wig out about a lesser team member getting lynched. He had to know Fener was important in some capacity -either as his former tribal leader or as cult leader.
If Gam comes up tribesman, my head will asplode.

I meant that the information that Gam put forward in his reveal (the tribesmen following Anchor) hadnt been mentioned anywhere in thread before that. Granted Fener was one of the people who confirmed it, but I think Lio did too. So unless Gam actually does know what's happening in the books and has been keeping the fact secret all game, then it's likely he was told that in his role PM. Meaning that as likely as it is that he is part of the cult now, he was recruited into it and is not one of the original members. Hence my thoughts about looking around while the day is still young.

well....where shall we look.
Liosan?...he seemed to try and clear gamelon.

Maybe we should have a look at feners trains...he had two...we could narrow it down as his second in charge would NOT have voted i dont think.


edit - added NOT

This post has been edited by Hood's Path: 11 June 2009 - 01:37 PM

[Korvalain]

@Driss

Ok, that makes sense. I'm going to leave my vote where it is, but I'm not closing my mind to other possibilities. I'm around for a bit now, so I'll keep my promise and go back and look at some other people.

[Korvalain]

Hood's Path, on Jun 11 2009, 09:21 AM, said:

D'riss, on Jun 11 2009, 06:17 AM, said:

Korvalain, on Jun 11 2009, 03:04 PM, said:

D'riss, on Jun 11 2009, 07:52 AM, said:

So Fener was the recruiter? Seems to be the consensus. This leaves me very confused as to why he had so much support on day 3.

Lynching Gam does seem like the obvious choice for today - HP's words ring very true. That said we shouldn't be too hasty. Does anyone think there may be a back-up recruiter? Like I said before - Gam's reveal sounded pretty believable, so he's more than likely just a recruit. I would also expect there to be one or two other recruits, it definitely wouldnt hurt to start looking for them, I think the first few days deserve a good reread in light of the new information we have.

??? If Gam's reveal is believable? I thought the idea was that Gam would likely only stick his neck out was if Fener was a cult leader and Gam was recruited. Which is what you concluded...but I can't wrap my head around that sentence. If we assume Gam was recruited, how could his reveal be believable?

If Gam comes up non-cult...do we have to assume the possibility that power roles can become cult? I wouldn't think so, since Fener seemed so worried about Korlat. However, I just dont understand why Gam would wig out about a lesser team member getting lynched. He had to know Fener was important in some capacity -either as his former tribal leader or as cult leader.
If Gam comes up tribesman, my head will asplode.

I meant that the information that Gam put forward in his reveal (the tribesmen following Anchor) hadnt been mentioned anywhere in thread before that. Granted Fener was one of the people who confirmed it, but I think Lio did too. So unless Gam actually does know what's happening in the books and has been keeping the fact secret all game, then it's likely he was told that in his role PM. Meaning that as likely as it is that he is part of the cult now, he was recruited into it and is not one of the original members. Hence my thoughts about looking around while the day is still young.

well....where shall we look.
Liosan?...he seemed to try and clear gamelon.

Maybe we should have a look at feners trains...he had two...we could narrow it down as his second in charge would have voted i dont think.

Um...grammar nazi says what?

[Gamelon]

Good morning folks.

I see the train brigade has already started to pile. Somewhat understandable, yes, but I'd at least like to get my word in before I get buttraped...

I was convinced by Fener's reveal for a few reasons, although one would out my team more than I already have -.-

But I saw his second post and right at the beginning thought it was a signal. I guarantee that my PM will be in SH, stating, "hey I think I found one of my teammates" when he asks where the skyscraper-sized angel is. John Anchor, the sky-scraper sized giant. Might be I'm just a gullible fuck, but I saw that as a signal essentially asking, "HEY MASTER DONDE ESTA" but I guess not. Or he got recruited.

[Hood's Path]

Korvalain, on Jun 11 2009, 06:23 AM, said:

Um...grammar nazi says what?

look again

[Hood's Path]

busy dwnloading something....leaving snail trails all over my desk... computer

[Hood's Path]

busy dwnloading something....computer leaving snail trails all over my desk...

[Hood's Path]

wtf??!!!

[Gamelon]

Hood's Path, on Jun 11 2009, 09:34 AM, said:

busy dwnloading something....computer leaving snail trails all over my desk...

lolwut?

[Hood's Path]

Korvalain, on Jun 11 2009, 06:23 AM, said:

Um...grammar nazi says what?

look again

[Gamelon]

HP, you've completely lost me.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 5. 27 hours and 59 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: D'riss, Emurlahn, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Rashan, Ruse, Telas, Tennes

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night

3 votes for Gamelon: ( Hood's Path, Rashan, Korvalain )

Players not voted: D'riss, Emurlahn, Gamelon, Liosan, Meanas, Ruse, Telas, Tennes

[Hood's Path]

goddamn internet

[Korvalain]

Meanas' hammer could act as a perfect distancing ploy to keep him untouched for a while. You gotta believe Fener would've been hammered by someone/anyone in the end.

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It is not retarded in the slightest. Some people simply don't believe you, and if you can't accept that sometimes people will distrust what you say, you shouldn't be playing this game.

Fener's presence has been rather distracting. I find the likelihood that he has been recruited somewhat higher today, given that people were shying away from voting for him yesterday. However, having someone willing to back his reveal makes me pause - I'm not sure I can reconcile Fener's play with that of a Cult recruiter, who I imagine he'd have to be if Gamelon were to know to try and defend him. For that reason, I'm going to hold off for now, although if no other avenues for a lynch present themselves today I'd be willing to vote for him in order to get a lynch.

Up until the hammer, Meanas plays cool towards the case. He doesn't offer any idea where he might put his vote instead, but makes sure it's known he'll vote in order to "get a lynch".

Meanas, on Jun 10 2009, 04:09 PM, said:

Hood's Path, on Jun 10 2009, 03:50 AM, said:

Meanas, on Jun 9 2009, 06:06 PM, said:

With Hood's Path, there is obviously going to be differences between the first half of his posts (pre-weekend) and the latter half (post-weekend). But I notice that in pretty much every single contentful post since he got back he has been talking about the cult. He does seem very single minded in that respect. Also, I have an automatic suspicion of people complaining like this:

Arent we all obsessed with the cult?
They are the single biggest problem, and now that I know that we will never know if we ever actually hit cult its so much more difficult

Meanas, on Jun 9 2009, 06:06 PM, said:

Hood's Path, on Jun 9 2009, 10:24 AM, said:

Fener, on Jun 9 2009, 07:18 AM, said:

I thought Lish said that roles were not as the general rule tied to the character name. So the name is more for fluff than anything. Mind you, Carnival had to be a killing role of some kind, but then that was revealed right away wasn't it?

I'm home, so I'll go get the book to check Kesso's name anyway

oh...

so the names are pointless for discovering if someone is cult?
How can you make a cult game like this lish veryangry.gif

Cult always bloody wins...now its near impossible for them to lose!

bah...BAH i tell ya

Complaints like this tend to get expressed in PMs to Spoilers more than in thread. So whenever I see something like this, it feels like the player is trying to prove something about their mindset - in this case, that Hood's Path is trying very hard to be diligent in hunting the Cult at every turn. It feels like he's trying a bit hard in that respect...

Actually i can also now see how this could look....bad.
Well...I was just venting.
I hadnt realised till this point that we would get no info from the names given.
I was under the impression that the names PS was suplying actually had some sort of info attached to it.
Someone mentioned that its not....and i was pissed off.

Meanas, on Jun 9 2009, 06:06 PM, said:

Rashan's Day 1 case on Hood's Path was kind of weak, and by addressing it HP dealt with the case's major focus point: him being too agreeable. Still, there was only one person who really commented on the case at all that I could find were Korlat and Emurlahn. Everyone else seems to have just ignored it as far as I can tell...somewhat strange, given that Day 1 is really a scramble for cases with even a shred of plausibility behind them.

This would only make sense if the majority of players were cult already and they were ignoring rashans case.
As you should know cult would have had most likely only 2 players on day one...so this point is nonesense.

Meanas, on Jun 9 2009, 06:06 PM, said:

So, there's not much there, I guess, but I still feel a little nervous about him for the reasons stated above. Not enough to toss a vote down for, but I still have this niggling suspicion that could have been recruited over the weekend and since then has tried to blend in by focusing on the cult as much as possible.

Huh?
Im not sure what you are saying here, first you start off your little "case" saying i am focusing on the cult allot.
Now at the end you say i am trying to "blend in" by focussing on the cult as much as possible? Thats would imply that everyone else is focussing on the cult to?...so why am i different?

Also you will notice i talk about the cult before the weekend too...in fact i was the first person to bring it up. So your going in circles here.

Now i think it should be pretty obvious why i am focussing on the cult...Because they are the single biggest threat to my faction.
They are the single biggest threat to EVERY faction actually.
On top of that now we will never know if we hit cult and its makes them so much more dangerous.

So...Let me see?...you want us to NOT focus on the cult? Rather focus more on eliminating other factions?...I wonder why?
Which factions shall we focuss on? ....hmmmm?...pray tell?

OK, so my point was that the general sentiment in the game is that the Cult are the evil enemy that must be dealt with at all costs. By focusing so much on that, you are essentially telling the people what they want to hear, which is the blending in I was talking about.

I take your point that you were the first to bring the cult up, so I guess your behavior has been reasonably consistent both pre- and post- weekend.

And while the cult are the biggest threat, they are not the only threat. One would hope that in a balanced game, the other factions were dangerous too, no? I have no problem with the idea of going after the cult first, but I do feel like we should at least be looking for power roles on the side.

Here he is also cool towards focusing on the cult. And he parrots Fener's line from earlier (the part I underlined).

Admittedly it's not much, but there it is.
I'll look at Lio next.

edit: my own grammar fail

This post has been edited by Korvalain: 11 June 2009 - 01:47 PM

[Hood's Path]

Gamelon, on Jun 11 2009, 06:28 AM, said:

Good morning folks.

I see the train brigade has already started to pile. Somewhat understandable, yes, but I'd at least like to get my word in before I get buttraped...

I was convinced by Fener's reveal for a few reasons, although one would out my team more than I already have -.-

But I saw his second post and right at the beginning thought it was a signal. I guarantee that my PM will be in SH, stating, "hey I think I found one of my teammates" when he asks where the skyscraper-sized angel is. John Anchor, the sky-scraper sized giant. Might be I'm just a gullible fuck, but I saw that as a signal essentially asking, "HEY MASTER DONDE ESTA" but I guess not. Or he got recruited.

SO why did YOU reveal?

I mean that is fucked up...

[Gamelon]

Hood's Path, on Jun 11 2009, 09:49 AM, said:

Gamelon, on Jun 11 2009, 06:28 AM, said:

Good morning folks.

I see the train brigade has already started to pile. Somewhat understandable, yes, but I'd at least like to get my word in before I get buttraped...

I was convinced by Fener's reveal for a few reasons, although one would out my team more than I already have -.-

But I saw his second post and right at the beginning thought it was a signal. I guarantee that my PM will be in SH, stating, "hey I think I found one of my teammates" when he asks where the skyscraper-sized angel is. John Anchor, the sky-scraper sized giant. Might be I'm just a gullible fuck, but I saw that as a signal essentially asking, "HEY MASTER DONDE ESTA" but I guess not. Or he got recruited.

SO why did YOU reveal?

I mean that is fucked up...

Because some of the people on that train should've seen that signal, and I was fucking pissed that they kept pushing when it seemed completely obvious.

I was wrong, of course, but hindsight's 20/20.

edit: to clarify, at that point I thought my team was almost half the remaining # of players.

This post has been edited by Gamelon: 11 June 2009 - 01:56 PM

[Gamelon]

@Korvalain: That seems possible, although if Meanas did that wouldn't it be more likely that he was a recruit? I don't see any other possibility, unless there were paired recruiters (which I think would be OP).

[Korvalain]

Liosan, on Jun 10 2009, 08:54 PM, said:

so, to clarify

Mesmerists are evil, spawn of hell type people.
Heshette are nomad tribesmen who worship the goddes of Heaven. They've been fighting Deepgate for ages, and now the rest of them, led by Ramnir took Cospinol's ship to the far western lands to fight the King of Hell there.

Gamelon, you realize what you've done by revealing,, right?
now tomorrow we will all be in the position knowing that you are a lowly symp, and thus a great recruit target. Meaning, people will want to lynch you a la fener.

and for the record: we have two dead Cohl's shades. But unlike what we're used to, these mercenaries work on personal basis. thus, they don't necessarily have to be on same team, and one of them was probably associated with the Mesmerists.

and am I the only one to notice Emu hasn't posted in a while?

Ok, Lio has an annoying habit of making juicy claims and then not explaning what he's on about.
He either believes, or is making it look like he believes, that Gamelon was not cult at the time of the reveal. I have trouble buying that. Essentially, Lio needs to explain the whole 'big slip' thing.