[Tellan]

here for a little bit. let me reread korlat. i'm not sure i'm willing to give hood's path a 3 day pass just in case he set us up before the game in case he drew a good role/recruiter. i know it's bad form in normal game, but in a faction game it's a rather neutral lynch.

[D'riss]

@ Fener - what makes you so sure he has a power role?

@ Tellan - I can understand your reasoning, but HP (it's obvious enough who is behind the alt) is always away over weekends. I dont see how who is behind alt has anything to the role they might have. We definitely shouldnt forget about him though.

[Tellan]

@ d'riss i know what you are saying, but i'm sure peanutbutta or whoever gets lynched today and tomorrow, would have liked a free pass until day 4 of the game.

edit - syntax

This post has been edited by Tellan: 06 June 2009 - 02:56 PM

[Fener]

D'riss, on Jun 6 2009, 04:34 PM, said:

@ Fener - what makes you so sure he has a power role?

@ Tellan - I can understand your reasoning, but HP (it's obvious enough who is behind the alt) is always away over weekends. I dont see how who is behind alt has anything to the role they might have. We definitely shouldnt forget about him though.

First because of his posting. In an inno vs evil game, the killers quite often post summaries etc to be seen to contribute and be visible while at the same time not having any impact on the game that can lead back to them. Korlat's extensive descriptions of the books were in essence the same thing. As a power role it's important that you stay alive in order to keep your faction strong, and a way to accomplish that is to hide in plain sight, like I believe Korlat was trying to do.

Then, when I brought this up his reaction said quite a bit I think. Ergo, my suspicion, if not perhaps confirmed, was at least strengthened quite a bit.

so, to get some action going

korlat

This post has been edited by Fener: 06 June 2009 - 02:57 PM

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 20 hours and 35 minutes remaining

15 Players still alive: D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Rashan, Ruse, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night

1 vote for Korlat: ( Fener )
1 vote for Fener: ( Liosan )

Players not voted: D'riss, Emurlahn, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Meanas, Rashan, Ruse, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

[Kessobahn]

Well then, good morning Kess.

Hullo Kess, how are you this morning.

Not bad Kess, but we seem to be alone here. It isn't a nice way to be.

Does it feed your multiple personality disorder.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

No?

Lets kill him, he said no.

*Kessobahn strangles himself near to death in an effort to kill one of his personalities. fortunately, he passes out first, waking up to find the fourth fellow nicely compliant at last.*

Well, hello dead thread. I noticed HP said something last night that resonated with me in an odd way. Korlat is an interesting possibility as well, though I'll have to look into that again as well. For myself, now that there's a little more stuff to go on than cockiness, I won't vote Fener, but IGMEOH.

I also noticed that Tennes and Emu both returned after long posting droughts withing 30 mins of dawn. Possible roles?

[Ruse]

Fener, on Jun 6 2009, 02:59 PM, said:

*snort*, that makes no sense in a merc game, Ruse.

No, I'd say my favoured target for today's lynch is Korlat as I'm quite confident he's got a power role, and I'd rather not have those around

*snort* back at you. You're confident he has a power role, like you were confident about Sil being obsessed with the king of hell.

Fener, on Jun 6 2009, 03:56 PM, said:

D'riss, on Jun 6 2009, 04:34 PM, said:

@ Fener - what makes you so sure he has a power role?

@ Tellan - I can understand your reasoning, but HP (it's obvious enough who is behind the alt) is always away over weekends. I dont see how who is behind alt has anything to the role they might have. We definitely shouldnt forget about him though.

First because of his posting. In an inno vs evil game, the killers quite often post summaries etc to be seen to contribute and be visible while at the same time not having any impact on the game that can lead back to them. Korlat's extensive descriptions of the books were in essence the same thing. As a power role it's important that you stay alive in order to keep your faction strong, and a way to accomplish that is to hide in plain sight, like I believe Korlat was trying to do.

Then, when I brought this up his reaction said quite a bit I think. Ergo, my suspicion, if not perhaps confirmed, was at least strengthened quite a bit.

so, to get some action going

korlat

To quote someone very wise...oh, that would be you Fener - that makes no sense in a merc game.

But to throw your own argument back to you. The one who keeps on about a role must be a power player...no? I should be smelling bacon, but all I smell is something fishy.

Vote Fener

[Gamelon]

Ruse, could you clarify how he's supposed to be keeping on about a particular role? I feel like he's talking about power roles in general, which makes sense IMO.

[Meanas]

Hey everyone.

I had a look back over the very early postings, and noticed that Hood's Path was the first one to bring up the cult. Ordinarily, I'd push on him for that, but I'm not sure it's worth with him not being around to defend himself...

Apart from things like that, does anyone have any suggestions about how to find cultists? It's been a while since I've played in a game with one.

[Fener]

Ruse, on Jun 6 2009, 06:15 PM, said:

Fener, on Jun 6 2009, 02:59 PM, said:

*snort*, that makes no sense in a merc game, Ruse.

No, I'd say my favoured target for today's lynch is Korlat as I'm quite confident he's got a power role, and I'd rather not have those around

*snort* back at you. You're confident he has a power role, like you were confident about Sil being obsessed with the king of hell.

Fener, on Jun 6 2009, 03:56 PM, said:

D'riss, on Jun 6 2009, 04:34 PM, said:

@ Fener - what makes you so sure he has a power role?

@ Tellan - I can understand your reasoning, but HP (it's obvious enough who is behind the alt) is always away over weekends. I dont see how who is behind alt has anything to the role they might have. We definitely shouldnt forget about him though.

First because of his posting. In an inno vs evil game, the killers quite often post summaries etc to be seen to contribute and be visible while at the same time not having any impact on the game that can lead back to them. Korlat's extensive descriptions of the books were in essence the same thing. As a power role it's important that you stay alive in order to keep your faction strong, and a way to accomplish that is to hide in plain sight, like I believe Korlat was trying to do.

Then, when I brought this up his reaction said quite a bit I think. Ergo, my suspicion, if not perhaps confirmed, was at least strengthened quite a bit.

so, to get some action going

korlat

To quote someone very wise...oh, that would be you Fener - that makes no sense in a merc game.

But to throw your own argument back to you. The one who keeps on about a role must be a power player...no? I should be smelling bacon, but all I smell is something fishy.

Vote Fener

I think you missed something there. I showed how killers tend to act in regular games and stipulated that a power role would act much the same way in a merc game for the same reasons.

[Tennes]

Um since I'm not intimate with the theme, why is Korlat considered to have power role? Especially pointed at Fener.

[Liosan]

I find it odd that Fener's obcessed about power roles, when he should be worried about the cult.

Methinks we've got our first recruited player....

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 17 hours and 52 minutes remaining

15 Players still alive: D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Rashan, Ruse, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night

1 vote for Korlat: ( Fener )
2 votes for Fener: ( Liosan, Ruse )

Players not voted: D'riss, Emurlahn, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Meanas, Rashan, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

[Fener]

Liosan, on Jun 6 2009, 07:34 PM, said:

I find it odd that Fener's obcessed about power roles, when he should be worried about the cult.

Methinks we've got our first recruited player....

you do realise of course that the cult leader would be a power role, yes?

[Liosan]

then why not say it the way people woud be sure to show more interest--"i think Korlat's cult", instead of this "power role" crap?

[Meanas]

I don't see a problem with looking for power roles. It's very difficult to play a Merc game without labeling at least one team as Target #1, and in this game we already have a ready-made faction to go after - the cult. And the lack of faction CF is going to mean that that is the Cult tag is going to be the one people will be trying to avoid for the vast majority of the game. But there are 2 other enemy factions in play for each of us who would be getting a free ride if we focus on the cult too much.

Granted, going after the cult first seems like a good idea before they get too big, but I'm not averse to taking out an enemy power role if the opportunity presents itself. Having said that, I'm not entirely convinced by Fener's reasoning. As a counterexample, I seem to remember Shinrei being very helpful with setting information in the Masquerade game, but he was RI. So I don't see the evidence he has put forward as particularly strong. If you could explain why you felt his reactions were particularly telling, perhaps?

[Liosan]

Shin wasn't RI
he had a BP, and i'd take one less vote to lynch him.

Other htan that, I agree with your point on helpfulness.

it's a merc game. you attack people, and try to fish out the leaders by seeing who'll defend them. that's the basis of how you play a merc game. not "looking for inconspicuous people"

[Fener]

Liosan, on Jun 6 2009, 08:43 PM, said:

Shin wasn't RI
he had a BP, and i'd take one less vote to lynch him.

Other htan that, I agree with your point on helpfulness.

it's a merc game. you attack people, and try to fish out the leaders by seeing who'll defend them. that's the basis of how you play a merc game. not "looking for inconspicuous people"

well now, what have I been doing you think?

[Fener]

Meanas, on Jun 6 2009, 08:33 PM, said:

I don't see a problem with looking for power roles. It's very difficult to play a Merc game without labeling at least one team as Target #1, and in this game we already have a ready-made faction to go after - the cult. And the lack of faction CF is going to mean that that is the Cult tag is going to be the one people will be trying to avoid for the vast majority of the game. But there are 2 other enemy factions in play for each of us who would be getting a free ride if we focus on the cult too much.

Granted, going after the cult first seems like a good idea before they get too big, but I'm not averse to taking out an enemy power role if the opportunity presents itself. Having said that, I'm not entirely convinced by Fener's reasoning. As a counterexample, I seem to remember Shinrei being very helpful with setting information in the Masquerade game, but he was RI. So I don't see the evidence he has put forward as particularly strong. If you could explain why you felt his reactions were particularly telling, perhaps?

It's difficult to lay out exactly. When I read Korlat's posts I imediatly thought power role. Then, when I raised this point he first tried to wave me away by calling me an idiot and then ignoring the whole thing. When that didn't work he got aggressive enough I felt my hypothesis had been given a stronger foundation.

[Fener]

Liosan, on Jun 6 2009, 07:57 PM, said:

then why not say it the way people woud be sure to show more interest--"i think Korlat's cult", instead of this "power role" crap?

Because I have no way of knowing whether his role is that of a cult master, or something else like say Costipol, John Anchor, Carnival, or Hasp, to mention some.