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PANDORIUM deep space horror
#1
Posted 29 May 2009 - 11:32 AM
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Why dont they make the whole plane out of that black box stuff?
Why dont they make the whole plane out of that black box stuff?
#2
Posted 29 May 2009 - 04:10 PM
Looks good 
I'd like to see some Alastaire Reynolds books made as movies as well, they would kick arse.

I'd like to see some Alastaire Reynolds books made as movies as well, they would kick arse.
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#3
Posted 30 May 2009 - 11:44 AM
Looking at something like this, the film they really should have made is Al Reynolds' Chasm City... though I guess it might be too long for one movie

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#4
Posted 01 June 2009 - 12:37 PM
It looks good but I wonder if it is anything original or unique. I mean as far as I can tell the story looks similar to other sci-fi horror movies...
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#5
Posted 01 June 2009 - 03:02 PM
Any deep space horror flic is going to be compared inevitably to Alien and Aliens as the bar-setting films of the genre respectively in the sf suspence/horror and thriller/action/horror granddaddies of the genre.
This trailer really, REALLY invokes those films, esp ALIEN right down to the scene in when the Capn is hunting the beasty in the tunnels and the 'we're becoming like them' bits.
That said, i have a soft spot for the genre and while most (many) films like this tend to mediocrity at best (EVENT HORIZON) and suck at worse (GHOSTS OF MARS) tho with the odd high point (PITCH BLACK), if initial buzz is good i'd take a look on the big screen.
- Abyss, .....fan of the "I don't see anythin..." "Hsst!" "AAAAHHHH"....
This trailer really, REALLY invokes those films, esp ALIEN right down to the scene in when the Capn is hunting the beasty in the tunnels and the 'we're becoming like them' bits.
That said, i have a soft spot for the genre and while most (many) films like this tend to mediocrity at best (EVENT HORIZON) and suck at worse (GHOSTS OF MARS) tho with the odd high point (PITCH BLACK), if initial buzz is good i'd take a look on the big screen.
- Abyss, .....fan of the "I don't see anythin..." "Hsst!" "AAAAHHHH"....
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#7
Posted 01 June 2009 - 03:10 PM
Same...
Damn, though, I'd love to see Alastair Reynold's Chasm City as a movie...


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#8
Posted 01 June 2009 - 05:28 PM
Slumgullion Spitteler, on Jun 1 2009, 11:08 AM, said:
I like Event Horizon more than Aliens 

Lisheo, on Jun 1 2009, 11:10 AM, said:
Same... 

You. do. NOT?!?
Seriously? I thought EH was 'HELLRAISER in space' with a dose of every mediocre spaceship episode of THE OUTER LIMITS even done. FFS, they did the 'people are confronted by their greatest fears' trope. Poorly. If a film is going to do 'metaphysical crazy dimension in space' then go for it, balls out. This could have taken place in a strip mall for all the difference the setting made.
Whereas ALIENS had smartguns and colonial marines and Sigourney Weaver with a BFG.
- Abyss, ...notes maybe you're both just cold and dead inside like the peoples in the movie???

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#9
Posted 01 June 2009 - 07:07 PM
Just to set the record straight. Aliens was cool in the... uhm, late 70? early 80s? Hell Raiser in Space, sorry, Event Horizen... was awesome in the... uhm, late 90s? Early 00s?
Alien One is a classic and can't really be compared, Event Horizen was a really cool space horror that I haven't seen topped since. That whole decompresion/kid turning inside out bit, the awesome black hole generating pendulum of scary, the videoclips of the crazy people, Sam Neil tearing out his eyes, all that jazz was awesome. I will how ever agree with Abyss that the whole "we're hunted by the past" deal was not so well implemented and should probably have not been used.
As for this film, Pandorium. Is it based on some book I don't know? Is it supposed to be a well known sci-fi?
Because I thought the trailer looked like an awfull film, B-quality, straight to DVD fair. It's a couple of astronaughts who wake up on their giant spaceship and there's evil alien like humanoids hunting people, and there's savage looking hunter like people hunting/being hunted by the alien humanoids.
I can already guess that it's something ala the ship having been on the move for thousands of years, somebody woke up early, they've been surviving for centuries in the bowels of the ship, maybe some experiemental "specimens" broke free, maybe the ship has actually been travelling so long people evolved, bla. bla.
It looks stupid and unoriginal.
Alien One is a classic and can't really be compared, Event Horizen was a really cool space horror that I haven't seen topped since. That whole decompresion/kid turning inside out bit, the awesome black hole generating pendulum of scary, the videoclips of the crazy people, Sam Neil tearing out his eyes, all that jazz was awesome. I will how ever agree with Abyss that the whole "we're hunted by the past" deal was not so well implemented and should probably have not been used.
As for this film, Pandorium. Is it based on some book I don't know? Is it supposed to be a well known sci-fi?
Because I thought the trailer looked like an awfull film, B-quality, straight to DVD fair. It's a couple of astronaughts who wake up on their giant spaceship and there's evil alien like humanoids hunting people, and there's savage looking hunter like people hunting/being hunted by the alien humanoids.
I can already guess that it's something ala the ship having been on the move for thousands of years, somebody woke up early, they've been surviving for centuries in the bowels of the ship, maybe some experiemental "specimens" broke free, maybe the ship has actually been travelling so long people evolved, bla. bla.
It looks stupid and unoriginal.
This post has been edited by Aptorian: 01 June 2009 - 07:08 PM
#10
Posted 01 June 2009 - 07:51 PM
Jesus guys I do not understand how you can compare a film like Event Horizon (1997) to Aliens(1986). Trying to leave aside whether you like them or not. Aliens was genuinely groundbreaking, cutting edge film with highly original ideas (at least in cinema) and great special effects. The design, the concepts etc still stand up now and the interplay between the marines and weaver is excellent, the tech is believable and the cinematography excellent.
Event Horizon has one of the dumbest pretenses for a film ever, I mean I liked it but I can't see the comparison really.
Event Horizon has one of the dumbest pretenses for a film ever, I mean I liked it but I can't see the comparison really.
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#11
Posted 01 June 2009 - 08:23 PM
Hmm. I only think you could compare the first alien film and Event Horison. Aliens (the sequel) was a whole different kind of film. Its more action than horror or suspense. Probably why must guys love Aliens (the sequel) so much. Also there was a giant alien versus mech suit wrestling match and that makes the film worth a nobel price.
#12
Posted 01 June 2009 - 08:57 PM
I love Alien, and the sequels, don't think I dislike them (I own every Alien on dvd, even the abyssmally bad AvP movies, and once inflicted them all on the missus... That was funny... Until the consequences...).
While I enjoy Alien (the facehugger in the original makes my skin crawl EVERY time), I think some of the actual horror stuff of Event Horizon was done better than Alien.
Also, I haven't seen Event Horizon half as many times, Alien's appeal has sorta dimmed over time.
Anyway, enough off-topic.
Tbh, I dunno if I see this as being mediocre or just bad... As Apt says, it's gonna be they were all frozen during the journey, some alien thing got on board, now we have zombie-esque monsters (VERY original, from the guys who cocked up Resident Evil), now a few of the crew are waking up, etc... It looks like it could have had some real potential, actually. If they had kept with the idea of the one person venturing off alone, with someone else staying behind in the vent used in the description, and them having to deal with the psychological horror, instead of turning it into what appears to be the usual crappy action-horror. I mean, no offence to ye Americans, but does EVERYTHING have to have guns and explosions?!
While I enjoy Alien (the facehugger in the original makes my skin crawl EVERY time), I think some of the actual horror stuff of Event Horizon was done better than Alien.
Also, I haven't seen Event Horizon half as many times, Alien's appeal has sorta dimmed over time.
Anyway, enough off-topic.
Tbh, I dunno if I see this as being mediocre or just bad... As Apt says, it's gonna be they were all frozen during the journey, some alien thing got on board, now we have zombie-esque monsters (VERY original, from the guys who cocked up Resident Evil), now a few of the crew are waking up, etc... It looks like it could have had some real potential, actually. If they had kept with the idea of the one person venturing off alone, with someone else staying behind in the vent used in the description, and them having to deal with the psychological horror, instead of turning it into what appears to be the usual crappy action-horror. I mean, no offence to ye Americans, but does EVERYTHING have to have guns and explosions?!

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#13
Posted 02 June 2009 - 12:00 PM
agree about event horizon being a flaming hunk of deep-space alien shit.
I just couldn't get into it. They were trying to be all symbolic and deep, but it just came off like another dumbass gorefest, except set in space. Abyss' quote about EH being the sum of all the shitty space-themed outer limits episodes is correct IMO. Watching it was like banging some chick, trying your damndest to get off but failing, then having to walk away blueballed. Cool moments to be sure but on the whole...unsatisfying.
As for pandorum, I'll definitely check it out. It could go either way judging by the trailer, but space movies is space movies in the end ya know.
I just couldn't get into it. They were trying to be all symbolic and deep, but it just came off like another dumbass gorefest, except set in space. Abyss' quote about EH being the sum of all the shitty space-themed outer limits episodes is correct IMO. Watching it was like banging some chick, trying your damndest to get off but failing, then having to walk away blueballed. Cool moments to be sure but on the whole...unsatisfying.
As for pandorum, I'll definitely check it out. It could go either way judging by the trailer, but space movies is space movies in the end ya know.
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Posted 02 June 2009 - 12:27 PM
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Posted 02 June 2009 - 01:06 PM
Arguably, ALIENS, being made when it was made, is still superior to the vast majority of CGI infused tripe we've gotten since then. The work they did with animatronics and dudes in rubber suits and sharp editting clever lighting and just rarely ever showing the beasties went a long way towards making that movie awesome. Watch the first time the marines go up against the aliens under the power plant - you don't even completely see an alien until they've had their asses kicked and are running like scared little girls (albeit scared little girls with automatic weapons) and by then you're a believer that yes, these things are fucking deadly. The whole 'watch the massacre on the helmet cams' bit set the stage for virtually every sf flic since then that's done any sort of 'watch what the characters are watching on the screen' bit since.
EVENT HORIZON - eminently forgettable. It's HELLRAISER-In-SPACE, meaning it can't even set itself from the ripped off source material. SF flics have been doing the decompression thing, better, clear back to (2001 A SPACE ODYSSEY and beyond!).
As for PANDORIUM, i agree - colony ship is perverted by alien organism. Untainted humans try to survive against infected. Cue lots of running thru dark tech corridors, narrow tunnels and stabby stabby. And if it's well done, i'm in.
Yes. She wears it like a suit and uses it to kick alien moster queen ass.
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- Abyss, isn't american but could still answer that one easy.
EVENT HORIZON - eminently forgettable. It's HELLRAISER-In-SPACE, meaning it can't even set itself from the ripped off source material. SF flics have been doing the decompression thing, better, clear back to (2001 A SPACE ODYSSEY and beyond!).
As for PANDORIUM, i agree - colony ship is perverted by alien organism. Untainted humans try to survive against infected. Cue lots of running thru dark tech corridors, narrow tunnels and stabby stabby. And if it's well done, i'm in.
Slumgullion Spitteler, on Jun 2 2009, 08:27 AM, said:
Yes. She wears it like a suit and uses it to kick alien moster queen ass.
Lisheo, on Jun 1 2009, 04:57 PM, said:
.... I mean, no offence to ye Americans, but does EVERYTHING have to have guns and explosions?! 

Yes. And bacon.
- Abyss, isn't american but could still answer that one easy.
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