Mafia 46 - Monastery Murders Game Thread
#761
Posted 31 May 2009 - 12:44 AM
Well I see that you all tried to get a lynch on me in the final minutes of day.. thank god its the weekend...
If someone would like to show me where a case is I will gladly defend myself as it seems you all sort of think im doing something wrong...
I was going to look into Meanas today but it seems that ship has sailed.. time to do a re read..
If someone would like to show me where a case is I will gladly defend myself as it seems you all sort of think im doing something wrong...
I was going to look into Meanas today but it seems that ship has sailed.. time to do a re read..
#762
Posted 31 May 2009 - 12:49 AM
Gamelon, on May 31 2009, 12:44 AM, said:
Finally got some time to post now. Thread is still pretty slow, but we got about 8 or so hours to go.
I see we got cases on D'riss and Mockra. I think I prefer the Mockra one more, the D'riss one doesn't seem to have any evidence, its a lack of evidence one. Although the Mockra one is only slightly better. I still don't like his Day 1 vote on Telas which started things off.
Anyway going to go look back at Tellan first and see how my time goes. Seems a good time for case building. That said there isn't a lot of evidence on anyone.
I see we got cases on D'riss and Mockra. I think I prefer the Mockra one more, the D'riss one doesn't seem to have any evidence, its a lack of evidence one. Although the Mockra one is only slightly better. I still don't like his Day 1 vote on Telas which started things off.
Anyway going to go look back at Tellan first and see how my time goes. Seems a good time for case building. That said there isn't a lot of evidence on anyone.
You don't like my vote on Telas? I don't see how you can not like it.. I was going offline and I felt he was a liable day 1 lynch subject and surprisingly he was lynched. I didn't need to convince anyone and I wasn't suspecting that at all...
#763
Posted 31 May 2009 - 12:51 AM
Korvalain, on May 31 2009, 03:55 AM, said:
Mockra has been pushed into confrontations, and has not shied away from them. As inno, do we look for confrontational players? No. We look for smooth operators. People who hide in the mix without making too much noise.
This post is interesting.. you are trying to make yourself look more inno by making categorys for how people should play.
#764
Posted 31 May 2009 - 12:53 AM
Shadow, on May 31 2009, 04:11 AM, said:
I feel Mockra and his incessant "I'm going to go look at this person" and then does nothing is worse then anything D'riss has done.
Vote Mockra
Vote Mockra
I look at people's posts. If there is nothing there worthy of a case I don't need to say it, that discourages people looking into that player. If that happens, there may have been something I overlooked or might be seen in different light by another person which will then go unnoticed.
#765
Posted 31 May 2009 - 12:56 AM
Ampelas, on May 31 2009, 05:19 AM, said:
looks like there are two cases that are hot at the moment - this part of the D'riss case popped out at me, it's from HP's case post:
I think that comment from D'riss that hp points out is enough to vote for him.
the Mockra case is heavy too I think - Mockra is gliding along, not doing anything or sticking their neck out - he could be a duck with his little feet paddling under the surface, could be a killer duck. I am prepared to vote for either and I've got some time right now, so I'll hang around to see which option is the hottest, then vote. we've got 2 hours, correct?
Edit: added 'that hp points out' for clarification
Hood's Path, on May 30 2009, 01:24 AM, said:
He was catching up, yes, but who doesn't read the night scene before they start posting? It's almost like he was looking for an excuse to pull out a "lol, whoops, Emur's dead" post.
I think that comment from D'riss that hp points out is enough to vote for him.
the Mockra case is heavy too I think - Mockra is gliding along, not doing anything or sticking their neck out - he could be a duck with his little feet paddling under the surface, could be a killer duck. I am prepared to vote for either and I've got some time right now, so I'll hang around to see which option is the hottest, then vote. we've got 2 hours, correct?
Edit: added 'that hp points out' for clarification
Not sticking my head out? Based on how nks have gone, that should be considered a good thing...
I believe that I was the first vote on a lynch and made a case on someone which I abandoned due to time constraints. What have you done that is productive or worth something to anyone?
#766
Posted 31 May 2009 - 12:57 AM
D'riss, on May 31 2009, 05:31 AM, said:
Mockra, on May 30 2009, 04:31 AM, said:
Well Fener that seems to be an interesting look into me. So far I have been the first vote on a lynch train and made a case on Emur which I abandoned so we could reach a lynch. I never said I didn't want to vote for Sil, I just prefered Emur. If I didn't say anything when I say I looked into someones posts, generally thats because I could not find anything... who can blame me at this point, we seem to be going around in circles. It is looking like today we will be lynching D'riss in a mad rush near the end of day though Im not too sure on what the case is...
Today I decided I wouldn't make any outstanding suspicions as it seems to be a homocide post for the one I talk of
Today I decided I wouldn't make any outstanding suspicions as it seems to be a homocide post for the one I talk of
Psychic or just eager to rush me under the train? Also, Fener mentioned that I am 'lynch' happy earlier, but Mockra's just as lynch happy as I am. He voted for Sil after changing from Emur (like me) and I believe he started the Telas train. If you're willing to vote me you have to be equally willing to vote Mockra.
Well I based that on the votes at the time and the activity of the forum. Considering how it turned out, I believe I was right as of course I wouldn't include myself as a liable lynch target
#767
Posted 31 May 2009 - 01:03 AM
Korvalain, on May 31 2009, 03:19 AM, said:
Just sliding by, contributing some, without causing any problems. A perfect slide-by killer.
Vote Fener
Vote Fener
Korvalain, on May 31 2009, 04:01 AM, said:
Remove Vote.
I'm on my own again.
Between Mockra and D'riss, I side on D'riss.
I'm on my own again.
Between Mockra and D'riss, I side on D'riss.
Korvalain, on May 31 2009, 04:19 AM, said:
Vote D'riss.
Hood's Path has only a few posts, but at least they are worthwhile.
Hood's Path has only a few posts, but at least they are worthwhile.
Korvalain, on May 31 2009, 05:15 AM, said:
D'riss, on May 30 2009, 12:59 PM, said:
Korvalain, on May 30 2009, 09:19 AM, said:
Vote D'riss.
Hood's Path has only a few posts, but at least they are worthwhile.
Hood's Path has only a few posts, but at least they are worthwhile.
Kind of ridiculous that you're hopping on the wagon because I'm pretty confident you're innocent. I actually think HP is innocent too, but Mockra/Fener I'm pretty dubious about, TBH.
I haven't had a lot of time to contribute but I try to at least get votes in and add to the discussion even when I'm not able to spend a lot of time constructing my own cases.
I agree. I'm pretty worthless. I'm all sorts of fucking drugged up (medicine). I probably shouldn't be voting. I can change my vote though, at any point. I'll be here for a long time.
So...
Remove Vote.
I'm a hot damn ghetto mess, right now. I am not the avatar you are looking for, move along. Move along.
Korvalain, on May 31 2009, 06:42 AM, said:
Alright, I've made up my mind.
1. I hate you all.
2. I would like to see a case on Fener (who is squeeky clean) and Gamelon (who is non-existant).
3. Vote Mockra.
1. I hate you all.
2. I would like to see a case on Fener (who is squeeky clean) and Gamelon (who is non-existant).
3. Vote Mockra.
Don't know what the hell Korv was doing yesterday but he was all over the place. Pointing fingers at everyone.. placing and removing votes within the hour. Seems unusual to me.
#768
Posted 31 May 2009 - 01:07 AM
Right now Im more inclined to start a case on Korv. He seems to be pointing fingers at anything that moves but im not too sure how many fingers have been pointing at him. Seems like he could be scum hiding in plain sight based on how he thinks roles should be played and how he tries to CI himself..
Oh and octuple post
Oh and octuple post
#769
Posted 31 May 2009 - 01:31 AM
Feel free to start that case. I have nothing to hide.
I was all over the place today, due to the medicine I was on making me fairly loopy.
So, whoever nailed that Shaper, good job!
Edit: Just to add, I included myself on the player's on both lynch list, and also included myself as someone who hasn't been pressured, yet. So, somebody needs to do it. Might as well be you.
I was all over the place today, due to the medicine I was on making me fairly loopy.
So, whoever nailed that Shaper, good job!
Edit: Just to add, I included myself on the player's on both lynch list, and also included myself as someone who hasn't been pressured, yet. So, somebody needs to do it. Might as well be you.
This post has been edited by Korvalain: 31 May 2009 - 01:34 AM
#770
Posted 31 May 2009 - 02:05 AM
It is Day 4. 34 hours and 3 minutes remaining
11 Players still alive: Ampelas, D'riss, Fener, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korvalain, Liosan, Mockra, Ruse, Shadow, Tellan
6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night
Players not voted: Ampelas, D'riss, Fener, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korvalain, Liosan, Mockra, Ruse, Shadow, Tellan
As it is Saturday night for this Mod I am going to be heading off....You will be modless unless someone else gets on....
Carry on
Vengeance
11 Players still alive: Ampelas, D'riss, Fener, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korvalain, Liosan, Mockra, Ruse, Shadow, Tellan
6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night
Players not voted: Ampelas, D'riss, Fener, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korvalain, Liosan, Mockra, Ruse, Shadow, Tellan
As it is Saturday night for this Mod I am going to be heading off....You will be modless unless someone else gets on....
Carry on
Vengeance
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
#771
Posted 31 May 2009 - 02:10 AM
Good stuff good stuff! One down, unknown number to go!
#772
Posted 31 May 2009 - 02:34 AM
Well I'm not the best at picking up symp clues, but looking back over all of Meanas' posts, he rarely agrees with anyone. The only 2 I'd say he supported in any argument are Sil and Ruse, and the Ruse bit was a trivial matter, not really a sign of any collaboration between 'em.
#773
Posted 31 May 2009 - 03:22 AM
ow, shit mother FUCK
mea culpa on lurking in the second half of the day today, footy ended disastrous for my health, so I haven't been capable of posting.
great job on getting the shaper, Bent played a really smooth game, good job vig.
mea culpa on lurking in the second half of the day today, footy ended disastrous for my health, so I haven't been capable of posting.
great job on getting the shaper, Bent played a really smooth game, good job vig.
#774
Posted 31 May 2009 - 04:39 AM
D'riss, on May 30 2009, 10:23 AM, said:
Just gonna go through HP's argument one bit at a time.
I don't know if I ever responded to you because the case was stupid. Here's my reasoning for voting Emur:
He didn't vote for a case based on principle but then voted a second case based upon another principle. That is no way to play the game and I thought it was scummy.
Hood's Path, on May 29 2009, 11:24 PM, said:
All right, nothing's going on, so let's talk about D'riss.
I got highly suspicious of him after his vote on Emur. I made a case at post #505, and I think D'riss still hasn't clarified his reasoning on that vote. He just kind of switched it like nothing was wrong.
I got highly suspicious of him after his vote on Emur. I made a case at post #505, and I think D'riss still hasn't clarified his reasoning on that vote. He just kind of switched it like nothing was wrong.
I don't know if I ever responded to you because the case was stupid. Here's my reasoning for voting Emur:
D'riss said:
Busy day and pretty tied up tonight, so I can't offer much, but I should be on before the lynch.
I've been suspicious of Emur for the non-vote for a while now, and his recent post indicates he's voting based on principle, which is retarded considering he didn't vote for Telas because he thought the case was bad. So... he makes a case on someone that involves nothing actually related to the game but his notion on how the game should be played?
Vote Emurlahn
Echoing what Mockra says, too, if all roles played the game you thought it should be played, we'd win the game easy every time over scum.
I've been suspicious of Emur for the non-vote for a while now, and his recent post indicates he's voting based on principle, which is retarded considering he didn't vote for Telas because he thought the case was bad. So... he makes a case on someone that involves nothing actually related to the game but his notion on how the game should be played?
Vote Emurlahn
Echoing what Mockra says, too, if all roles played the game you thought it should be played, we'd win the game easy every time over scum.
He didn't vote for a case based on principle but then voted a second case based upon another principle. That is no way to play the game and I thought it was scummy.
So maybe I'm a little slow at this and you need to explain yourself in a little greater detail.
Emur didn't vote the first day because he didn't think the case was good (i.e. there was nothing really on the guy). He did vote for Sil day two because he did think the case was good (i.e. Sil post was kinda scummy). So I'm confused. How else are we supposed to play this game?
To me, it still looks like you were trying to start a train based on bullshit.
#775
Posted 31 May 2009 - 06:06 AM
@HP
The whole point about Emur was he claimed he was voting based on principle, NOT based on game play and the principle applied in one case but not the other, implying a contradiction to me.
The whole point about Emur was he claimed he was voting based on principle, NOT based on game play and the principle applied in one case but not the other, implying a contradiction to me.
#776
Posted 31 May 2009 - 07:01 AM
Okay, I didn't ask you to repeat yourself. Allow me to show you exactly what I'm talking about.
Here is Emur's non-vote day 1:
And his vote day 2:
In both cases, he gives valid reasons for performing the actions he performs. He does use the word "principles," but follows it with a clear explanation of what he means by the word.
Then, after D'riss votes him, he explains himself even more:
Wow, none of that makes any sense. You really haven't read anything I've written.
I didn't vote for Telas, because it was a really stupid non-case.
I'm voting for Silanah because they pushed an asinine case at a crucial time without any substantial argument, conviction, or rationale. And now, I'm supposedly suspicious for not pretending that it was all a great thing.
I've already said all this.
I feel like I might be making a big thing about something small, but I can't figure out why D'riss continues to claim that he feels he made the right call, when it seems clear to me just from looking at Emur's posts that there was no basis for D'riss' vote on him.
And the more D'riss continues to claim that his vote made sense, the more it raises alarm bells.
edit: underlines to make sure what I'm talking about is clear
Here is Emur's non-vote day 1:
Emurlahn, on May 27 2009, 10:03 AM, said:
All right, out of bed and caught up ...
The Telas case is inane, and I refuse to vote for it purely on those grounds. The lynch will quite likely go through, but I don't care for it.
The Telas case is inane, and I refuse to vote for it purely on those grounds. The lynch will quite likely go through, but I don't care for it.
And his vote day 2:
Emurlahn, on May 28 2009, 06:25 PM, said:
Well, at the risk of OMGUS:
Vote Silanah
That's based on principles, not turnabout, mind you. I don't like your pivot-vote part in the idiotic Telas lynch.
EDIT: A quick vote because I'll be headed out for a while, and I didn't realize there was so little time left in the Day.
Vote Silanah
That's based on principles, not turnabout, mind you. I don't like your pivot-vote part in the idiotic Telas lynch.
EDIT: A quick vote because I'll be headed out for a while, and I didn't realize there was so little time left in the Day.
In both cases, he gives valid reasons for performing the actions he performs. He does use the word "principles," but follows it with a clear explanation of what he means by the word.
Then, after D'riss votes him, he explains himself even more:
Emurlahn, on May 28 2009, 08:19 PM, said:
D'riss, on May 28 2009, 06:37 PM, said:
Busy day and pretty tied up tonight, so I can't offer much, but I should be on before the lynch.
I've been suspicious of Emur for the non-vote for a while now, and his recent post indicates he's voting based on principle, which is retarded considering he didn't vote for Telas because he thought the case was bad. So... he makes a case on someone that involves nothing actually related to the game but his notion on how the game should be played?
Vote Emurlahn
I've been suspicious of Emur for the non-vote for a while now, and his recent post indicates he's voting based on principle, which is retarded considering he didn't vote for Telas because he thought the case was bad. So... he makes a case on someone that involves nothing actually related to the game but his notion on how the game should be played?
Vote Emurlahn
Wow, none of that makes any sense. You really haven't read anything I've written.
I didn't vote for Telas, because it was a really stupid non-case.
I'm voting for Silanah because they pushed an asinine case at a crucial time without any substantial argument, conviction, or rationale. And now, I'm supposedly suspicious for not pretending that it was all a great thing.
I've already said all this.
I feel like I might be making a big thing about something small, but I can't figure out why D'riss continues to claim that he feels he made the right call, when it seems clear to me just from looking at Emur's posts that there was no basis for D'riss' vote on him.
And the more D'riss continues to claim that his vote made sense, the more it raises alarm bells.
edit: underlines to make sure what I'm talking about is clear
This post has been edited by Hood's Path: 31 May 2009 - 07:04 AM
#777
Posted 31 May 2009 - 07:06 AM
The D'riss vote has raised suspicions for a while. We have all seen it, thus D'riss being an obvious target for lynch. Today was between Mockra & D'riss. I voted it during one of my high-stages today, before switching to Mockra.
Your suspicions are not going unnoticed.
Your suspicions are not going unnoticed.
#778
Posted 31 May 2009 - 07:08 AM
Never said I made the right call but thanks for the painfully overdone elaboration?
#779
Posted 31 May 2009 - 07:11 AM
Well, I'd rather have overkill than what was going on during the work week.
#780
Posted 31 May 2009 - 07:13 AM
/shrug the case HP has made on me is about as flimsy as the one I agreed with on Telas and I had claimed on Emurlahn. I vote to get information with the time I have, I don't have ages to analyze every post ever made for secret clues. So yes, I vote with the majority as much as I can. I can't afford to spend all of my time researching new cases when there are often several presented in front of me.

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