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#721 User is offline   Shadow 

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 04:11 PM

I feel Mockra and his incessant "I'm going to go look at this person" and then does nothing is worse then anything D'riss has done.

Vote Mockra

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 04:13 PM

Hmm I haven't seen anything in the D'riss case that suggest he's being symped by Ruse. Hoods Path makes some comments about it, but it looks like he's reading way to much into it. Did you read it Tellan or just read what Hoods Path said?

Has anyone done a Hoods Path reread? He has slipped under my radar completely.

I think I'll stick with Mockra for the moment.

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 04:18 PM

t is Day 3. 3 hours and 41 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Ampelas, D'riss, Fener, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Ruse, Shadow, Tellan

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night

4 votes for D'riss: ( Hood's Path, Fener, Tellan, Gamelon )
2 votes for Mockra: ( D'riss, Shadow )
1 vote for Ampelas: ( Liosan )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Kessobahn, Korvalain, Meanas, Mockra, Ruse
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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#724 User is offline   Korvalain 

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 04:19 PM

Vote D'riss.

Hood's Path has only a few posts, but at least they are worthwhile.

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 04:26 PM

For clarification purposes:

Gamelon are you voting for D'riss or Mockra? Your latest post makes it sound like you are voting for Mockra, and yet, PS has you down as D'riss.

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 04:27 PM

View PostGamelon, on May 30 2009, 06:13 PM, said:

Hmm I haven't seen anything in the D'riss case that suggest he's being symped by Ruse. Hoods Path makes some comments about it, but it looks like he's reading way to much into it. Did you read it Tellan or just read what Hoods Path said?

Has anyone done a Hoods Path reread? He has slipped under my radar completely.

I think I'll stick with Mockra for the moment.


I was putting D'riss and Ruse together in my mind before I saw HP's case, though perhaps not in the same terms as he did. I'm not sure if they're symp and master, but I am getting an odd feeling from them. Admittedly, more so from Ruse than D'riss, personally, but that's probably because Ruse has stuck his neck out a little more than D'riss. As the case suggests D'riss as killer, I'll go with that, but depending on what happens after this day, I plan, if I can, to look at Ruse a bit more.

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 04:28 PM

Ha good question. I had to go and check. I'm voting Mocka at the moment.

I actually looked through Fener and I can kind of see where you are coming from there as well. Not sure what lynch we are going to get today though.

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 04:59 PM

View PostKorvalain, on May 30 2009, 09:19 AM, said:

Vote D'riss.

Hood's Path has only a few posts, but at least they are worthwhile.


Kind of ridiculous that you're hopping on the wagon because I'm pretty confident you're innocent. I actually think HP is innocent too, but Mockra/Fener I'm pretty dubious about, TBH.

I haven't had a lot of time to contribute but I try to at least get votes in and add to the discussion even when I'm not able to spend a lot of time constructing my own cases.

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 05:02 PM

It is Day 3. 2 hours and 58 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Ampelas, D'riss, Fener, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Ruse, Shadow, Tellan

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night

4 votes for D'riss: ( Hood's Path, Fener, Tellan, Korvalain )
3 votes for Mockra: ( D'riss, Shadow, Gamelon )
1 vote for Ampelas: ( Liosan )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Kessobahn, Meanas, Mockra, Ruse
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 30 May 2009 - 05:08 PM

Well I am off unfortuntately. Currently 4 - 3, and its tempting to go to D'riss but I still prefer Mockra at the moment - the D'riss case has nothing the Mockra something so thats all I got to go on. I hope we have enough people to go either one way or the other.

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 05:15 PM

View PostD'riss, on May 30 2009, 12:59 PM, said:

View PostKorvalain, on May 30 2009, 09:19 AM, said:

Vote D'riss.

Hood's Path has only a few posts, but at least they are worthwhile.


Kind of ridiculous that you're hopping on the wagon because I'm pretty confident you're innocent. I actually think HP is innocent too, but Mockra/Fener I'm pretty dubious about, TBH.

I haven't had a lot of time to contribute but I try to at least get votes in and add to the discussion even when I'm not able to spend a lot of time constructing my own cases.


I agree. I'm pretty worthless. I'm all sorts of fucking drugged up (medicine). I probably shouldn't be voting. I can change my vote though, at any point. I'll be here for a long time.

So...

Remove Vote.

I'm a hot damn ghetto mess, right now. I am not the avatar you are looking for, move along. Move along.

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 05:19 PM

looks like there are two cases that are hot at the moment - this part of the D'riss case popped out at me, it's from HP's case post:

View PostHood's Path, on May 30 2009, 01:24 AM, said:

He was catching up, yes, but who doesn't read the night scene before they start posting? It's almost like he was looking for an excuse to pull out a "lol, whoops, Emur's dead" post.

I think that comment from D'riss that hp points out is enough to vote for him.

the Mockra case is heavy too I think - Mockra is gliding along, not doing anything or sticking their neck out - he could be a duck with his little feet paddling under the surface, could be a killer duck. I am prepared to vote for either and I've got some time right now, so I'll hang around to see which option is the hottest, then vote. we've got 2 hours, correct?



Edit: added 'that hp points out' for clarification

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 05:23 PM

Just gonna go through HP's argument one bit at a time.

View PostHood's Path, on May 29 2009, 11:24 PM, said:

All right, nothing's going on, so let's talk about D'riss.

I got highly suspicious of him after his vote on Emur. I made a case at post #505, and I think D'riss still hasn't clarified his reasoning on that vote. He just kind of switched it like nothing was wrong.


I don't know if I ever responded to you because the case was stupid. Here's my reasoning for voting Emur:

D'riss said:

Busy day and pretty tied up tonight, so I can't offer much, but I should be on before the lynch.

I've been suspicious of Emur for the non-vote for a while now, and his recent post indicates he's voting based on principle, which is retarded considering he didn't vote for Telas because he thought the case was bad. So... he makes a case on someone that involves nothing actually related to the game but his notion on how the game should be played?

Vote Emurlahn

Echoing what Mockra says, too, if all roles played the game you thought it should be played, we'd win the game easy every time over scum.

He didn't vote for a case based on principle but then voted a second case based upon another principle. That is no way to play the game and I thought it was scummy.


Hood's Path said:

Fener then made a good analysis of his posts in posts #564 and #566.

Okay, since then, D'riss did the annoying "talk about someone like they're still alive...oh, whoops, I guess their dead series of posts" shtick that also rubbed me the wrong way.

*snip*

He was catching up, yes, but who doesn't read the night scene before they start posting? It's almost like he was looking for an excuse to pull out a "lol, whoops, Emur's dead" post.


Uh, I leave my browser window open when I go to bed and then when I get a chance, I check it right at the exact point where I left off the next day. I just refresh the page and continue reading where I left off (checking to make sure I wasn't NKd as indicated by a PM from P-S right when I start). I prefer to see the story unfold for me so I have proper context when I read deaths.

Hood's Path said:

In addition to this, we have Ruse, who really seems to be doing a master job of symping D'riss. On two occasions today he chimes in saying that he's going to look at D'riss' (and others') posts and then proceeds to get everyone talking about all the other suspects except D'riss:

View PostRuse, on May 29 2009, 12:35 AM, said:

View PostTellan, on May 29 2009, 03:31 AM, said:

Ah, another lynch missed, sigh. Sorry I haven't been around anywhere near enough, finding it hard to find time to access the internet at the moment.

I raised my eyebrows a bit at how quickly the train on Silanah developed. Perhaps not so much in terms of time, but in terms of people not explaining themselves fully before voting that way. I don't disagree with the lynch per se, but my spider sense is tingling for one or two scum hoppers there.


there was another train before the silanah one that also picked up speed pretty quickly...then it quickly shifted to silanah...
Maybe need to look at that....i think it was on ehmur

D'riss was a main part of that train, but Ruse doesn't bring it up again.


Uh... horse shit? Ruse says NOTHING in this post about me. He only discusses the mild train in Emur which, by the way, never had any steam.

Hood's Path said:

View PostRuse, on May 29 2009, 01:32 AM, said:

View PostTellan, on May 29 2009, 03:54 AM, said:

Silanah, D'riss and Mockra voted for Emurlahn before the train got going on Silanah instead. Obviously, Sil didn't change their vote.

D'riss voted for Emur because he felt Emur wasn't voting based on what's been happening in the game. D'riss is the first to switch over from Emur to Sil. I'm not really sure from his post why he decided to change his mind, perhaps D'riss can expand upon that?
As it is, right now I just get the feeling he felt the tide was turning that way, rather than overt suspicion of Sil.

As for Mockra, he puts his vote on Emur "unless something with substance turns up", which is his only explanation. It's also an interesting one given that his next post is this:

View PostMockra, on May 29 2009, 04:15 AM, said:

View PostKessobahn, on May 29 2009, 02:06 PM, said:

Huh, 15 minutes and no answer. Well, I'm going to leave now, probably for the night. I may check back before heading for bed. I doubt if I'll be casting a vote this day, as there has been nothing to vote on. I still think Meanas has been symping Silanah, but I have no evidence to back up a vote. Which means, probably no lynch. I'm gonna go pray for a more productive day tomorrow. Adios muchachos.


Well I find it interesting that you don't want to cast a vote on Emur but you won't cast it on anybody else..
If you don't like the case in front of you, vote for someone else..


Interesting because I got the feeling from Mockra's post where he votes for Emure that he didn't like that case, i.e. 'till something with substance turns up.' So if these are your principles, then why put your vote on a case you didn't like. Why didn't you vote for someone else who you felt might be more deserving of it? Also, Mockra hasn't exactly been foremost in attempting to find something to go on 'till something with substance turns up' sounds like he's waiting for others to do the legwork.

Mockra changed his vote to Silanah in order to, according to them, get the chance of a lynch. No real suspicion of Sil then, and no effort made to look elsewhere - though admittedly by this point time was running short.



interesting....

Since i have some time...ill go have a look at mockras posts....i think fener just had a gander at driss like a few posts up...maybe ill have another look at driss too.

It's like he's all, "Don't worry, guys, I got this D'riss thing. Don't worry about it." And then he goes and does something else. And it's not like there's a lot else to do around here. It just seems like he's misdirecting.

With that in mind, I shall

Vote D'riss

Yes, Ruse DOES say he's going to look into me but how many other incidents of that in this thread can you find? I bet I could find one on Fener in 5 minutes if I looked. Does that mean Fener's symping the guy he will look into but never does?

Your case is bogus BUT I still think you're innocent so no hard feelings. I honestly think you should look at Fener or Mockra.

edit: I looked and didn't find one on Fener after all, silly me. But I still believe Ruse is not the only person to say they will offer a case and then disappear. If he is a symp then it's fake-symping me to protect someone else.

This post has been edited by D'riss: 30 May 2009 - 05:36 PM


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Posted 30 May 2009 - 05:23 PM

Approximately 2 and a half hours left til lynch, by P.S.'s last post which I think includes the 4 hours forumbrokium.

Edit: Cross post with D'riss.
Double edit; Correct time.

This post has been edited by Korvalain: 30 May 2009 - 05:28 PM


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Posted 30 May 2009 - 05:31 PM

View PostMockra, on May 30 2009, 04:31 AM, said:

Well Fener that seems to be an interesting look into me. So far I have been the first vote on a lynch train and made a case on Emur which I abandoned so we could reach a lynch. I never said I didn't want to vote for Sil, I just prefered Emur. If I didn't say anything when I say I looked into someones posts, generally thats because I could not find anything... who can blame me at this point, we seem to be going around in circles. It is looking like today we will be lynching D'riss in a mad rush near the end of day though Im not too sure on what the case is...
Today I decided I wouldn't make any outstanding suspicions as it seems to be a homocide post for the one I talk of B)

Psychic or just eager to rush me under the train? Also, Fener mentioned that I am 'lynch' happy earlier, but Mockra's just as lynch happy as I am. He voted for Sil after changing from Emur (like me) and I believe he started the Telas train. If you're willing to vote me you have to be equally willing to vote Mockra.

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 05:38 PM

I'm pretty much punch-drunk. I am happy that the game is moving forward today. Mockra's precognition is actually in his favor, D'riss. He can't be blamed for Lynch 1. He can be blamed for starting a bad lynch, but it was day one. 99.9% are bad lynches. Day two is slightly different, and I've already done my fair share of being pissed off at him.

Is Mockra actually your favored target, or somebody else? That post seems kind of vote him not me (which, believe, me I understand, just asking).

Edit: Yes, I am watching the National Scholastic Spelling Bee.

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 06:05 PM

View PostKorvalain, on May 30 2009, 10:38 AM, said:

I'm pretty much punch-drunk. I am happy that the game is moving forward today. Mockra's precognition is actually in his favor, D'riss. He can't be blamed for Lynch 1. He can be blamed for starting a bad lynch, but it was day one. 99.9% are bad lynches. Day two is slightly different, and I've already done my fair share of being pissed off at him.

Is Mockra actually your favored target, or somebody else? That post seems kind of vote him not me (which, believe, me I understand, just asking).

Edit: Yes, I am watching the National Scholastic Spelling Bee.


I already voted Mockra on the grounds that it's him or me at this point and I'm not scum. I do agree with enough of the case on him to this point now that I would also add my vote on him if I were not on the block and it was someone else (like you, for example).

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 06:10 PM

Thanks for that encouragement, D'riss. :)

About two hours left to vote (slightly less I think ~1:50 or so). I'm going to look at both cases again.

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 06:19 PM

It is Day 3. 1 hour and 41 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Ampelas, D'riss, Fener, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Ruse, Shadow, Tellan

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night

3 votes for D'riss: ( Hood's Path, Fener, Tellan )
3 votes for Mockra: ( D'riss, Shadow, Gamelon )
1 vote for Ampelas: ( Liosan )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Kessobahn, Korvalain, Meanas, Mockra, Ruse
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 30 May 2009 - 06:22 PM

Mostly going to be touch and go at this point until the lynch.

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