[Meanas]

Where the hell is everyone?

[Ampelas]

the case on telas is that he's a spammer? he's got 5 posts, which constitutes as a low poster imo, albeit with no content. Lio's comment that it's okay to lynch low posters - if that's in fact what he meant - is the closest we have to a case. granted, anyone thinking we actually have a case on telas would be suspicious aswell, by that standard - but it is entirely possible I have misunderstood the case.
The options are between Lio and Telas and I think the case on Lio is the best, although admittedly it's not much. I think I will be here before the deadline - but just in case-

vote Liosan

[Gamelon]

Back and around for a few hours. Looks like a bit of action now at last.

I'll need to go back and reread Telas, I don't recall anything about his posts at all.

[Meanas]

Ampelas, on May 27 2009, 09:33 AM, said:

the case on telas is that he's a spammer? he's got 5 posts, which constitutes as a low poster imo, albeit with no content. Lio's comment that it's okay to lynch low posters - if that's in fact what he meant - is the closest we have to a case. granted, anyone thinking we actually have a case on telas would be suspicious aswell, by that standard - but it is entirely possible I have misunderstood the case.
The options are between Lio and Telas and I think the case on Lio is the best, although admittedly it's not much. I think I will be here before the deadline - but just in case-

vote Liosan

While I am more than happy to lynch Lio, I want to clarify why I (and I think Mockra) is voting Telas. He hops on and says, nothing to make a case on, this day sucks. Then I (and Shadow I think it was) showed him, that there is in fact info out there, although granted it was very weak, and he says, meh I am leaving. My point is, its not for spamming (at least on my part) its more for not contributing, you can spam and still contribute to the discussion. But TBH either lynch would be fine with me, I feel more strongly about the Lio thing, although its in itself is very weak.

[Silanah]

Oh please. Liosan speculated on options, weighed the benefits/disadvantages out loud on thread, and now there's suddenly a case on him?

Also, the case on Telas is only that he showed up, said he was going to post a case or something, then disappeared before said case. And seeing as how there's nothing to make a case on, I'm not surprised.

I'm now inclined to look at the people grasping at straws...

[Ampelas]

Silanah, it's not as much grasping at straws as it is the imminent need to get a lynch before time runs out. We only got 5 hour'ish.

Meanas, thanks for the clarification, I'll take a look.


Edit: Sil, if you can find a better lynch option, go ahead and tell us, it's very convenient to come on and start accusing everyone of grasping straws when you haven't a better choice yourself.

This post has been edited by Ampelas: 27 May 2009 - 01:41 PM

[Ampelas]

Found the posts you were referring to, Meanas:

Telas, on May 26 2009, 04:23 PM, said:

i was intending to do a quick analysis and maybe try my hand at a case but i cant see a single thing worthy of it atm

Meanas, on May 26 2009, 04:28 PM, said:

Telas, on May 26 2009, 05:23 PM, said:

i was intending to do a quick analysis and maybe try my hand at a case but i cant see a single thing worthy of it atm

Sure there is. For instance, Korlat appears to be fake-sympig me for some reason. Notice how he pops in and says hes not a Monk. I say, why not Shoalin (spelled wrong for accuracy) he says "yeah I'll be Bruce Lee" Then I throw on a joke vote onto Hood's Path. (Which by the way, he agreed with). The he throws out a joke vote of his own, a few minutes later. I can't figure it out, but I don't like it.

See, its a rubbish case, but its there if you look. And no, I don't feel its worth voting for at this time. And yes, I'll be watching to see who else he appears to be symping, but for now, I'll watch and listen.

Telas, on May 26 2009, 04:36 PM, said:

Hmmm... I'm off for the time being. May be back later.

I agree that it looks like he doesn't even care what is going on.

[Shadow]

Silanah, on May 27 2009, 09:22 AM, said:

Shadow, on May 27 2009, 08:06 AM, said:

Morning everyone!

I don't want to lynch a low-poster day 1! True we never do it, but that's because there are plenty of good reasons why someone might be a low-poster on day 1 and could still be roled or be a great contributor later on. If there's anything else to go on, it just makes sense to use that. I agree with Korlat, though, that if there was ever absolutely nothing to go on at all, then it could be as good a reason as any to pick a lynch target. Not the case here, though, we have some arguments floating around already.

The Liosan case is weak, he's just speculating courses of action where there were no cases ("oh, those were the good ol' days"), he wasn't super-advocating it or even really pursuing the idea.

The Telas case might have something to it. Actually, when he was on yesterday he wasn't logged in anonymous and was actually still in the thread for about 15 minutes after he posted that he was leaving!

edit (took a while to write, x-post with the last 5 or so posts)

On that point, the thing that shows people who are currently viewing the thread retains them for the next 15 minutes (or if they switch to another thread). The board index, for example, says right now:
49 user(s) active in the past 15 minutes

I didn't know that, wonderful what you learn in these crazy mafia games! My point is henceforth retracted!

[Silanah]

5 hours is plenty...we've speedlynched in under an hour before.

The best thing I found was potential signaling between Meanas and Telas (when Meanas places a joke vote shortly after beginning to seem semi-serious, then promptly removes a few minutes later) but that's about as weak as the other two on the table.

Tbh what irks me is less the lynch itself but a lynch/vote for a reason that isn't even true/correct... =/

[Ampelas]

for me both cases are weak, so it's more about what option gives us more information, which isn't easy to discern. at this time I am willing to vote for either.


Edit: Sil, a speed lynch might be possible if we had a remotely active game, but it's pretty slow.

Edit: Sil, if what you say is correct, I think we would get most information from lynching Telas then, would you agree?

This post has been edited by Ampelas: 27 May 2009 - 01:51 PM

[Korlat]

Grasping at straws it may be, but that's all there really is at the moment. I don't feel like anyone is being overly pushy on any of the cases but that's just my impression. As I said before, I see what Meanas is saying about Lio, but I don't interpret it as being as particularily waffly.

Telas is slightly better IMO just because he seems to put up an appearance of being helpful but doesn't actually do anything.

[Korlat]

Ampelas, on May 27 2009, 06:48 AM, said:

for me both cases are weak, so it's more about what option gives us more information, which isn't easy to discern. at this time I am willing to vote for either.

Yeah, who knows what information we'll get. Hopefully "He was scum".

BTW Amp, you're appearing a bit eager to get the train moving IMO...

edit: cross post with your edits Amp, which make you sound more measured

This post has been edited by Korlat: 27 May 2009 - 01:54 PM

[Ampelas]

I have to go, so I am going to change my vote, since Telas has more votes on him - and people seem to be leaning the most towards that option. hopefully I will be able to get on before the deadline.laters.

remove vote

vote Telas

Edit: Korlat, I'm just a bit stressed out, because I have to run.

This post has been edited by Ampelas: 27 May 2009 - 01:54 PM

[Silanah]

Ampelas, on May 27 2009, 09:48 AM, said:

for me both cases are weak, so it's more about what option gives us more information, which isn't easy to discern. at this time I am willing to vote for either.


Edit: Sil, a speed lynch might be possible if we had a remotely active game, but it's pretty slow.

Edit: Sil, if what you say is correct, I think we would get most information from lynching Telas then, would you agree?

Hmm fair enough. I gotta go, so just in case

Vote Telas

Hopefully I won't regret this.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 4 hours and 10 minutes remaining

18 Players still alive: Ampelas, D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Ruse, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

10 votes to lynch, 9 votes to go to night

4 votes for Telas: ( Mockra, Meanas, Ampelas, Silanah )
2 votes for Shadow: ( Liosan, Ruse )

Players not voted: D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Shadow, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

[Korlat]

Silanah, on May 27 2009, 06:56 AM, said:

Ampelas, on May 27 2009, 09:48 AM, said:

for me both cases are weak, so it's more about what option gives us more information, which isn't easy to discern. at this time I am willing to vote for either.


Edit: Sil, a speed lynch might be possible if we had a remotely active game, but it's pretty slow.

Edit: Sil, if what you say is correct, I think we would get most information from lynching Telas then, would you agree?

Hmm fair enough. I gotta go, so just in case

Vote Telas

Hopefully I won't regret this.

Well, you are the 4th vote on Telas, which means Emur is going to be watching you.

I'm not going to vote yet since I'll be around for a bit, and wouldn't mind hearing from Telas. I may or may not be here for deadline so I'll be sure to vote before I leave though.

[D'riss]

Good morning everyone. I'm heading to work and will be able to add to the discussion in an hour or so.

[Meanas]

Silanah, on May 27 2009, 09:47 AM, said:

5 hours is plenty...we've speedlynched in under an hour before.

The best thing I found was potential signaling between Meanas and Telas (when Meanas places a joke vote shortly after beginning to seem semi-serious, then promptly removes a few minutes later) but that's about as weak as the other two on the table.

Tbh what irks me is less the lynch itself but a lynch/vote for a reason that isn't even true/correct... =/

You do realize that at the point of your post above, I have had my vote on Telas for a while, right?

Silanah, on May 27 2009, 09:56 AM, said:

Ampelas, on May 27 2009, 09:48 AM, said:

for me both cases are weak, so it's more about what option gives us more information, which isn't easy to discern. at this time I am willing to vote for either.


Edit: Sil, a speed lynch might be possible if we had a remotely active game, but it's pretty slow.

Edit: Sil, if what you say is correct, I think we would get most information from lynching Telas then, would you agree?

Hmm fair enough. I gotta go, so just in case

Vote Telas

Hopefully I won't regret this.

What the hell is that supposed to mean?

[Tennes]

I'm hear.

Reading up on what I assume are 4 pages of spam.

[Liosan]

Good morning, all
wow, talk about desperately stringing a case out of nothing, Meanas.


yes, I presented two options.
yes, I explained why we never follow the first one. At no point did I "push" for either.
In fact, I've made it clear I was voting for shadow for being overly jumpy, i.e, gut feeling, i.e, option 2.

I will probably vote someone else soon, but first, it's breakfast time.