[Kessobahn]

Uhhhh, Mockra, you probably won't find anything like that reading Fener's posts...

[Mockra]

Kessobahn, on Jun 2 2009, 01:15 PM, said:

Uhhhh, Mockra, you probably won't find anything like that reading Fener's posts...

I meant you
I iz sleepy..

[Kessobahn]

Mockra, on Jun 1 2009, 09:11 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on May 29 2009, 04:24 AM, said:

Alright, so after reviewing I suppose Mockra's been a little bit annoying but its nothing to put a vote on, imo. I was never a fan of Shadow, right from that first comment about les auto (that's French dontcha know) and after he seemed to make you think I was his symp, I think its worth looking at him a little closer. Its possible he is scum trying to attach himself to an inno and get me lynched...hmm, I'm gonna go re-read him and see what I find.

Kessobahn, on May 29 2009, 04:52 AM, said:

Well, not as much on Shadow as I'd hoped. He's mostly middle of the road, with a padded post count do to his activity during the spam phase. nothing overtly scummy, imho, but maybe I'm just missing something. I've still got a lot to learn about case construction.

Meanas, on May 29 2009, 05:12 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on May 28 2009, 01:01 PM, said:

Meanas, on May 28 2009, 12:57 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on May 28 2009, 12:52 PM, said:

Well, not as much on Shadow as I'd hoped. He's mostly middle of the road, with a padded post count do to his activity during the spam phase. nothing overtly scummy, imho, but maybe I'm just missing something. I've still got a lot to learn about case construction.

Busy at work right now, but Kess, (sarcasm) that post doesn't make you look like a symp on Shadow, nope, not even a little bit (/sarcasm)

I'll be sporadic for the rest of the day, but with the thread moving at a snails pace, shouldn't have any trouble keeping up.

Well, no more than you look like Sil's symp. I mean, come on, you look at virtually everyone on the train yesterday and conveniently forget to mention the most suspicious one? I suppose if you're an experienced player forced to symp a newb you can only work with what you've got, but you should've at least mentioned it!

HA! Now I'm the symp? thats hilarious, I explained why I left Sil's name off that list. I was asking questions based on that train, Sil had pre-emptivley responded, I also left Mockra's name off for starting the train, you failed to mention that. Want to know why? Its because he was the first vote, the train grew AROUND him not BECAUSE of him. Does any of this mean I am CIing anyone? Of course not, keep trying Kess, but you need to do more than that to save you're master.

In fact

Vote Shadow

Kessobahn, on May 29 2009, 05:16 AM, said:

vote Shadow

I got nothing to hide. I am looking forward to uncovering your plot with Sil though.

These are the first few posts of relevance from Kess after night ended. The fact that he brought up suspicions on Shadow shows true to his word but the fact that he votes Shadow directly after his master puts it in a bad light.. He either is a smart symp with a back up plan or a naive inno with no insight into anything with his useless ability.

Well, I like to think I have some insight...but as you may recall I had no real info to back a Shadow lynch, so I took the first opportunity to hopefully start a train there. Didn't pan out, and that may yet be for the best. But it may not.

[Mockra]

Kessobahn, on Jun 2 2009, 01:31 PM, said:

Mockra, on Jun 1 2009, 09:11 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on May 29 2009, 04:24 AM, said:

Alright, so after reviewing I suppose Mockra's been a little bit annoying but its nothing to put a vote on, imo. I was never a fan of Shadow, right from that first comment about les auto (that's French dontcha know) and after he seemed to make you think I was his symp, I think its worth looking at him a little closer. Its possible he is scum trying to attach himself to an inno and get me lynched...hmm, I'm gonna go re-read him and see what I find.

Kessobahn, on May 29 2009, 04:52 AM, said:

Well, not as much on Shadow as I'd hoped. He's mostly middle of the road, with a padded post count do to his activity during the spam phase. nothing overtly scummy, imho, but maybe I'm just missing something. I've still got a lot to learn about case construction.

Meanas, on May 29 2009, 05:12 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on May 28 2009, 01:01 PM, said:

Meanas, on May 28 2009, 12:57 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on May 28 2009, 12:52 PM, said:

Well, not as much on Shadow as I'd hoped. He's mostly middle of the road, with a padded post count do to his activity during the spam phase. nothing overtly scummy, imho, but maybe I'm just missing something. I've still got a lot to learn about case construction.

Busy at work right now, but Kess, (sarcasm) that post doesn't make you look like a symp on Shadow, nope, not even a little bit (/sarcasm)

I'll be sporadic for the rest of the day, but with the thread moving at a snails pace, shouldn't have any trouble keeping up.

Well, no more than you look like Sil's symp. I mean, come on, you look at virtually everyone on the train yesterday and conveniently forget to mention the most suspicious one? I suppose if you're an experienced player forced to symp a newb you can only work with what you've got, but you should've at least mentioned it!

HA! Now I'm the symp? thats hilarious, I explained why I left Sil's name off that list. I was asking questions based on that train, Sil had pre-emptivley responded, I also left Mockra's name off for starting the train, you failed to mention that. Want to know why? Its because he was the first vote, the train grew AROUND him not BECAUSE of him. Does any of this mean I am CIing anyone? Of course not, keep trying Kess, but you need to do more than that to save you're master.

In fact

Vote Shadow

Kessobahn, on May 29 2009, 05:16 AM, said:

vote Shadow

I got nothing to hide. I am looking forward to uncovering your plot with Sil though.

These are the first few posts of relevance from Kess after night ended. The fact that he brought up suspicions on Shadow shows true to his word but the fact that he votes Shadow directly after his master puts it in a bad light.. He either is a smart symp with a back up plan or a naive inno with no insight into anything with his useless ability.

Well, I like to think I have some insight...but as you may recall I had no real info to back a Shadow lynch, so I took the first opportunity to hopefully start a train there. Didn't pan out, and that may yet be for the best. But it may not.

Well if you find scum you really should fight for a lynch.. even if it becomes day 2 and your second find comes up scum..

[Kessobahn]

I don't play finder like that. I wasn't about to reveal myself to the killers, knowing there would have to be at least one other, by pushing too hard and forcing myself into a reveal.

[Mockra]

Kessobahn, on Jun 2 2009, 01:57 PM, said:

I don't play finder like that. I wasn't about to reveal myself to the killers, knowing there would have to be at least one other, by pushing too hard and forcing myself into a reveal.

But if you has 2 confirmed scum finds, you should have thought you had foud both killers and should have revealed then... it all doesn't make sense

[Liosan]

sorryz, all, I was playing a very addictive game...

erm, HP, about my dislike of Amp--it's still there, but it's nothing concrete beyond the possible symp act from Silanah.

so istead, I'm looking at more recent funny reveals.

[Kessobahn]

Mockra, on Jun 1 2009, 10:09 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on Jun 2 2009, 01:57 PM, said:

I don't play finder like that. I wasn't about to reveal myself to the killers, knowing there would have to be at least one other, by pushing too hard and forcing myself into a reveal.

But if you has 2 confirmed scum finds, you should have thought you had foud both killers and should have revealed then... it all doesn't make sense

I've said it before, the fact that I had two scum finds in two nights was what didn't make sense to me. I've played in games with paranoid finders and what was the other one called, ?merciful finders? before and so I began to suspect that I might be that. The Meanas CF threw me a little and I began to hope, but after D'riss' reveal as normal finder I new it was useless to put any thought into my finds, so I just send in a name at the beginning of the day and focus on cases and scum hunting.

[Liosan]

the word you're looking for is "naive finders"

sigh

both Kesso's and Shadow's stories have holes and things that confuse me. for both of them, fake-revealing like that doesn't seem too productive.
therefore, both are probably innos telling the truth.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 5. 23 hours and 4 minutes remaining

8 Players still alive: Ampelas, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Liosan, Mockra, Ruse, Shadow, Tellan

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night

1 vote for Mockra: ( Kessobahn )
2 votes for Kessobahn: ( Ampelas, Shadow )

Players not voted: Hood's Path, Liosan, Mockra, Ruse, Tellan

It's either very early or very late here, I'm off to bed. You may be modless for a couple of hours, if there's a lynch you know the drill.

[Kessobahn]

Liosan, on Jun 1 2009, 10:30 PM, said:

the word you're looking for is "naive finders"

sigh

both Kesso's and Shadow's stories have holes and things that confuse me. for both of them, fake-revealing like that doesn't seem too productive.
therefore, both are probably innos telling the truth.

Yes, naive, thank you. I'd love to try and clear up any other holes if I can.

[Kessobahn]

I'm off to bed in 10-15, so after that any questions will have to wait until tomorrow. Real time, not necessarily game time.

EDIT: Actually unless you guys are hyper active tonight, we should have plenty of time tomorrow to discuss things before day times out.

This post has been edited by Kessobahn: 02 June 2009 - 02:49 AM

[Kessobahn]

Alright then, I'm off to bed. See you tomorrow.

[Liosan]

Kessobahn, on Jun 1 2009, 10:39 PM, said:

Liosan, on Jun 1 2009, 10:30 PM, said:

the word you're looking for is "naive finders"

sigh

both Kesso's and Shadow's stories have holes and things that confuse me. for both of them, fake-revealing like that doesn't seem too productive.
therefore, both are probably innos telling the truth.

Yes, naive, thank you. I'd love to try and clear up any other holes if I can.

well, it's just that other people have brought up numerous questions regarding your reveal.
you've answered them, and the answers sound plausible. But that doesn't mean you aren't just making the whole thing up. same can be said about Shadow--honestly, I can see him asking PS about a modkill extension due to RL issues, and then using that as cover for the silenced reveal 2 days later.

in both cases, however, I don't really see what you'd gain by fake-revealing. Which leads me to lean towards believing both of you.
meaning, I must look for scum elsewhere....

[Hood's Path]

Kessobahn, on Jun 1 2009, 07:48 PM, said:

I'm off to bed in 10-15, so after that any questions will have to wait until tomorrow. Real time, not necessarily game time.

EDIT: Actually unless you guys are hyper active tonight, we should have plenty of time tomorrow to discuss things before day times out.

I'm not putting a vote down until Tellan comes back or is modkilled, so I'm just waiting around for that to happen. (I believe the modkill should happen in 9 hours or so.)

[Liosan]

bedtime for me. see y'all later.

[Ruse]

WEll well...interesting reveals.

I must say my initial impression is that shadow is way too sure of himself....im not sure were he is getting his "info" from and how he could possibly be so sure he is right all the time, i dont know. It stinks to me off someone trying to railroad us all into doing what he wants....and ampelas looks like a great little side kick there as well...
Amo has seemed to all of the sudden become allot more animated all of the sudden...i dont know if its me but thats what it feels like.

Kessoh's reveal is somewhat interesting, i am inclined to somewhat believe him for now, firstly because there really wasnt any call for revealing such a pointless role at such a pointless time.
And secondly.... thing is.... this game is supposed to be a "role heavy" TMDI 6 , and until his reveal i there hasnt been much indication that it is anything but a normal meat and potatoes game...barring a potential silencer role wich would make it a TMDI 2 in my books.

So confusing innos with crazy roles like that is what would make this game a 6 in my eyes.

[Ruse]

Another possibility is that the silencer silencing his own team mate (shadow), knowing that the mod kill clock will stop making the target seem more inno because silencer would never silence his own killers thats just stupid right?....not really...rather clever if you ask me.
Could also be shadow is the silencer and has silenced himself...making himself seem more PI in everyones eyes. He can make it so that it looks like any number off people "did it to him" and then turn that into his own advantage.

I just dont get how he is so cock sure about himself unless he himself has set this all up all along.
As there are these possibilities to consider aswell...

Plus we still have no solid proof there really even is a silencer in play...

[Ruse]

I see im alone yet again...

[Mockra]

Ruse, on Jun 2 2009, 08:02 PM, said:

Another possibility is that the silencer silencing his own team mate (shadow), knowing that the mod kill clock will stop making the target seem more inno because silencer would never silence his own killers thats just stupid right?....not really...rather clever if you ask me.
Could also be shadow is the silencer and has silenced himself...making himself seem more PI in everyones eyes. He can make it so that it looks like any number off people "did it to him" and then turn that into his own advantage.

I just dont get how he is so cock sure about himself unless he himself has set this all up all along.
As there are these possibilities to consider aswell...

Plus we still have no solid proof there really even is a silencer in play...

Since generally the rules are copied from the previous game, none of the previous ones seem to show Silencer. Seems like it has been added specifically for this game which makes it pretty certain its in play..