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Mafia 45.5 Spoiler Thread The inner warren

#121 User is offline   Path-Shaper 

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 12:30 AM

View PostKhellendros, on May 13 2009, 08:27 PM, said:

View PostKorlat, on May 14 2009, 12:57 AM, said:

If I wind up getting lynched, it's because some of you have played this game WAY TOO FUCKING MUCH, and have no goddamned perspective any more.

There a lot of you who not only can't see the forest for the trees, you sit around masturbating while analyzing individual needles. This is why some recent Day One's have been so fucked up - someone points out the obvious, or expresses irritation at the way a player is playing, and blam! Lynched for disrupting the circle jerk.


I can totally understand his frustration here. This was much like when they just wouldn't leave me alone a couple of games ago, picking up, stripping down, analysing, and seeing the worst in every little thing I said, with the killers cheering them on the whole way. Adding insult to injury, Korlat's even on the ball when he said ages ago that he thought at least one of the scum was on his train - and yep, there's Gamelon, happily sitting there. And now Ruse has joined him.

I just don't understand what PB is trying to achieve. He's gone totally stark raving rabid bonkers - his accusations make absolutely no sense, which everyone there can see, but they all want some kind of lynch. And who are the two saying he makes some kind of sense? Ruse and Gamelon.


All comes down to whether people actually analyze what went on today. Will someone step up to the plate and say: "That case was bullshit, and anyone who thinks otherwise must be scum"? I doubt it, unfortunately :).


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Posted 14 May 2009 - 12:32 AM

I think Town wants a lynch. ANY lynch. Why? The odds of hitting scum are terribly bad.
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 12:33 AM

Korlat/Kurt has made no slip whatsoever. I've read over what PB says a million times and it makes no sense at all! He's just convinced himself he's managed to find something out of nothing, which has happened to us all I suppose. If I was Kurt, I'd be ripping my hair out at this. He could try and pick up on the fact that Gamelon/Ruse have said that he hasn't helped and made no cases himself, which is blatantly untrue as he's pointed out more than a thousand times why he thinks D'riss is scummy, but it's likely too late now.
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 12:34 AM

well, Korlat is dead.
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 12:37 AM

Welcome to Heaven! Lol.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 12:37 AM

Unlucky Kurt, you didn't deserve your fate. You made no 'slip' and a lot of what you said was taken totally out of context, but hey, for better or worse, a lot of Mafia's like that. As PS/Sir T said above, at least now we can hope that someone (Meanas perhaps) steps up to the plate, sees that Ruse and Gamelon were in there supporting the bullshit case, and goes after them.

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 12:39 AM

Unless Ruse silences Meanas....
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 12:41 AM

Right, I'm posting the scene now - but first, I need to make a minor adjustment to take into account Vengeance's explosion.

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 12:43 AM

View PostMentalist, on May 14 2009, 01:39 AM, said:

Unless Ruse silences Meanas....


Not sure if that would be smart or not. The innos might look for reasons behind that silencing, and Meanas was the only one to express real doubt over the Korlat lynch (before voting anyway, sigh). Then again, the innos might then just hop on Meanas' suspicions of Silanah, I suppose. It's not easy being innocent in an evil world :)
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 12:55 AM

Holy fuck ... PB is the new Bent. Which is bad, because the old Bent is still around.

That was a really stupid lynch. With Venge already dead, there was no goddamned reason to lynch anyone.

I'm glad this'll be my last game until late fall.
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 01:00 AM

yeah, I agree, the inno imposipns have gotten too frequent of late.

thing is, it's not newbs that do them, most of the time.
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 01:01 AM

Obdi confirms the vig.

Meanas said:

Fener said:

Nice drive-by hammer though, lol


Hey Thanks!

Path-Shaper, I believe we are agreed to VIG Hood's Path, even though I believe Fener already ok'ed whoever I decided.


Not sure why they're doing this on Day 1, seems better to at least wait until tomorrow before popping one of these babies off. Plus, it'll make all the innos confused about the number of NKs...*sigh*


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Posted 14 May 2009 - 01:02 AM

nah, they'll know there had to be a vig.
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 01:03 AM

Confirmation from Gamelon.

Gamelon said:

I would like to confirm the kill on Kessobahn please. My first kill as a killer EVAH. I hope I chose a particularily worthwhile one! (and that I'm not vigged)

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 01:06 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on May 14 2009, 02:03 AM, said:

Confirmation from Gamelon.

Gamelon said:

I would like to confirm the kill on Kessobahn please. My first kill as a killer EVAH. I hope I chose a particularily worthwhile one! (and that I'm not vigged)



That's Gem right? Well, at least she'll be pleased she can leave the roleless inno role early :)
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 01:07 AM

View PostMentalist, on May 13 2009, 09:02 PM, said:

nah, they'll know there had to be a vig.


Oh wait you're right, was still thinking in terms of the last one where you weren't told how many kills there would be.


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Posted 14 May 2009 - 01:09 AM

So, we're just waiting on Sixty - all other NAs are in (although the Guard and Finder ones are only provisionals).
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 01:14 AM

meh
once all actions are in, provs are confirmed automatically.
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 01:17 AM

Sixty just chose to silence Obdi (Liosan).

Not really modding, so I'll leave the in-thread stuff to you guys ...

Also, for the sake of those of us who enjoy following behind the scenes, how about leaving all the messages in the Inbox undeleted? That's sort of been standard procedure in the past, so that those of us who get here after dying can poke through old messages and get a feel for why people did what they did.

EDIT: I'm of course referring to the P-S Inbox.

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 01:22 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on May 13 2009, 09:17 PM, said:

Sixty just chose to silence Obdi (Liosan).

Not really modding, so I'll leave the in-thread stuff to you guys ...

Also, for the sake of those of us who enjoy following behind the scenes, how about leaving all the messages in the Inbox undeleted? That's sort of been standard procedure in the past, so that those of us who get here after dying can poke through old messages and get a feel for why people did what they did.

EDIT: I'm of course referring to the P-S Inbox.


All the PMs are posted in SH, so there's no need to leave them in the Inbox because you can read them here :). Doing it this way ensures that noone responds to a PM twice.



Here are some thoughts from our rookie killer:

Gamelon said:

Too early to feel anything remotely like smugness, but it's wild watching the accusations fly when you're the one with the info on who's inno and who isnt. When I was playing inno, I KNEW that the cases being made had to be making someone smile in the dark. And here I am, smiling in the dark. :D

BTW, I meant what I said about Vengeance though. Yeah, it helps team scum and the practical side of me thinks woo-hoo! but in terms of fair play, I would rather beat everyone straight up. (and yes, that is backhanded trashtalk).
Veng had to be roleless though, no roled inno would ask to be modkilled like that. Too bad.

Finally, people are going to start looking at me with my tiny post count. Time to step it up on day 2. Honestly, I've been posting as much as I've been on though, my post count isn't a deliberate tactic by any means.


EDIT: For completeness, here is Sixty's NA submission:

Ruse said:

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Still waiting to hear from you regarding who you are going to silence for tomorrow.


Sir Thursday

Liosan

May as well just fuck with Obdi. D'riss is only helping us, and I can't think of anyone really hurting us, and I'm still confident in my shitty alting skills.


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