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Mafia 45.5: Benses III, The Mage Showdown. Game thread

#1121 User is offline   Telas 

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 04:26 PM

View PostTennes, on May 15 2009, 12:21 PM, said:

Edit - search under construction? Radar, flight?


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Posted 15 May 2009 - 04:26 PM

Under the radar. Gotcha. Wouldnt say that applies to Sil in the earlt parts of yesterday, but I agree on the other two.

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 04:42 PM

View PostTennes, on May 15 2009, 12:26 PM, said:

Wouldnt say that applies to Sil in the earlt parts of yesterday

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#1124 User is offline   D'riss 

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 04:42 PM

Well, that sucks. If we lynch BB, does the newly possessed person immediately get a NK that night? If so, here's the best and worst I can see for us to win:

BCS
  • Lynch BB1 + NK (7 alive)
  • Lynch BB2 (6 alive)
  • Lynch UB (Win at 5 players alive)

WCS
  • Lynch inno + NK (7 alive)
  • Lynch BB1/UB + NK (5 alive)
  • Lynch UB/BB1 + NK (3 alive)
  • Lynch BB2 (Win at 2 players alive)


So if Telas is telling the truth and isn't BB hiding, worst case scenario is if we lynch an inno today, we have to lynch scum (in any order) on the next three days to win. Best case scenario is if we can lynch BB twice in a row, we'll be at 6 players alive with 1 of them scum and can afford to make 4 lynch mistakes before it's 1 inno : 1 scum town loss.

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edit2: Wait, if BB is lynched the second time, UB doesn't get a kill does he? Let me fix this.

edit 3: Doesn't affect the WCS, but heavily affects BCS if we lynch BB twice in a row.

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#1125 User is offline   Telas 

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 04:45 PM

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 04:51 PM

Two Scum Cancel/No Lynch Uncle Ben?

You're saying we really need to double-lynch BB, right?

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 04:52 PM

View PostD'riss, on May 15 2009, 06:42 PM, said:

Well, that sucks. If we lynch BB, does the newly possessed person immediately get a NK that night? If so, here's the best and worst I can see for us to win:

BCS
  • Lynch scum + NK (7 alive)
  • Lynch scum + NK (5 alive)
  • Lynch scum (Win at 4 players alive)

WCS
  • Lynch inno + NK (7 alive)
  • Lynch scum + NK (5 alive)
  • Lynch scum + NK (3 alive)
  • Lynch scum (Win at 2 players alive)


So if Telas is telling the truth and isn't BB hiding, we can make only one more lynch mistake throughout the rest of this game.

edit: Format fail

edit2: Wait, if BB is lynched the second time, UB doesn't get a kill does he? Let me fix this.


Technically we only need to lynch both incarnations of BB. But yes, it is getting close to do or die time.

@Telas - you think Sil overreacted? He was pretty calm until Ruse showed up.

Edit, or at least I think that's how it works, will go check op

Edit two, yup:

View PostPath-Shaper, on May 12 2009, 11:59 AM, said:

This shifting happens ONCE, so if the second Big Ben dies the evil team loses.

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#1128 User is offline   Telas 

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 04:54 PM

View PostD'riss, on May 15 2009, 12:51 PM, said:

Two Scum Cancel/No Lynch Uncle Ben?

You're saying we really need to double-lynch BB, right?


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Posted 15 May 2009 - 04:55 PM

View PostTennes, on May 15 2009, 12:52 PM, said:

View PostD'riss, on May 15 2009, 06:42 PM, said:

Well, that sucks. If we lynch BB, does the newly possessed person immediately get a NK that night? If so, here's the best and worst I can see for us to win:

BCS
  • Lynch scum + NK (7 alive)
  • Lynch scum + NK (5 alive)
  • Lynch scum (Win at 4 players alive)

WCS
  • Lynch inno + NK (7 alive)
  • Lynch scum + NK (5 alive)
  • Lynch scum + NK (3 alive)
  • Lynch scum (Win at 2 players alive)


So if Telas is telling the truth and isn't BB hiding, we can make only one more lynch mistake throughout the rest of this game.

edit: Format fail

edit2: Wait, if BB is lynched the second time, UB doesn't get a kill does he? Let me fix this.


Technically we only need to lynch both incarnations of BB. But yes, it is getting close to do or die time.

@Telas - you think Sil overreacted? He was pretty calm until Ruse showed up.

Edit, or at least I think that's how it works, will go check op


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Posted 15 May 2009 - 04:56 PM

View PostTennes, on May 15 2009, 12:52 PM, said:

@Telas - you think Sil overreacted?

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 04:58 PM

View PostTelas, on May 15 2009, 12:42 PM, said:

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 05:00 PM

Haha looks like now I'm the one who missed the game mechanics. FAIL D'RISS.

edit: Okay, so lynching BB is the priority, but obviously if we lynch him today, any logic we can devise is going to go bye bye for the second one =/

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 05:02 PM

Telas- Over-reacting gives the illusion of being under the radar for Silanah?

#1134 User is offline   Telas 

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 05:03 PM

View PostD, on May 15 2009, 01:02 PM, said:

Telas- Over-reacting gives the illusion of being under the radar for Silanah?
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Posted 15 May 2009 - 05:03 PM

Actually Drissed raised a valid point - Does BB2 get a kill the night that BB1 is lynched? Mod clarification please.

Telas, you think sil gave up the illusion of being under the radar?

Cross post nvm the second part

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 05:04 PM

My eyes are still spinning from the illusion lol.

what the hell, you totally changed from a bowing smile to a big cancel sign, Telas? LOL

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#1137 User is offline   D'riss 

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 05:06 PM

I missed a 'not sign.' Is it:

Over-reacting gives Silanah the illusion of NOT being under the radar?

Which would imply that he's "hiding in plain sight." Is that your point?

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#1138 User is offline   Telas 

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 05:07 PM

View PostD'riss, on May 15 2009, 01:06 PM, said:

Over-reacting gives Silanah the illusion of NOT being under the radar?


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Posted 15 May 2009 - 05:09 PM

View PostD'riss, on May 15 2009, 01:04 PM, said:

what the hell, you totally changed from a bowing smile to a big cancel sign, Telas? LOL

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 05:16 PM

View PostD'riss, on May 15 2009, 01:00 PM, said:

Okay, so lynching BB is the priority, but obviously if we lynch him today, any logic we can devise is going to go bye bye for the second one =/

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