[Galain]

So I don't see why Anomander was so pissed, his mistake didn't get Liosan lynched - Liosan got NKed.

Who gets so annoyed just because they vote an inno by misinterpreting someone's play? I was serious when I asked if he prepared this post after deciding to NK Liosan. It's the kind of thing that you think "sounds inno" when it really doesn't, and sometimes the killers make mistakes like this.


I looked at Anomander's posts towards the end of day yesterday

I saw this one:

Anomandaris, on May 8 2009, 08:13 PM, said:

Okay, best get serious.

As has been said a vote for Mockra at this stage will be a waste given the modkill...oh, wait, will that happen before the weekend break, because if not then it puts a different light on it?

HP? Really don't see the case there. In fact he made the most sense today.

Amp ~ well, we have to wait and see, but I will be shocked if he is scum after today's shenanigins.

Korv ~ If he is scum then he is playing a crazy, crazy game...so not inclined to go that way at the moment.

Gamelon ~ I need to reread the case, can't remember that one...other than the link with Galain, and like I said I worry my view might be skewed by his (Gal's) disbelief at my distress yesterday.

Tennes ~ his behaviour is odd, but once again I find myself in WIFOM land. Would scum play that erratically?

I guess, depending on the modkill thing, my vote would go for Tennes. Bit of a wait and see at the moment though, because of the Tellan/Amp thing.


Edit: Cross post ~ including with Amp ~ exciting!

Going through the "candidates" for the lynch, basically saying why he doesn't feel like voting any of them. Scum trying to make some inno friends?

And finally:

Anomandaris, on May 8 2009, 11:27 PM, said:

Am here - just got back from dinner. Finished quick read through, am going back through. But jic (given how slow I am - and there's not a lot of choice)

Vote Ruse


Edit: by that I mean there's lots of choices, but we are running out of time, and I won't hold up the lynch.

That's the extent of Ano's participations in choosing yesterday's lynch. Not much there, looks like day 1 where he went along with the best candidate, D'riss. Only on day 2 did he "stand out" with his vote on Liosan, and look how he reacted.

vote Anomander.

This post has been edited by Galain: 09 May 2009 - 04:11 PM

[Kessobahn]

yawn
moring all

gonna be pretty damn busy today, of the afk variety.
Apologies in advance for that.

[Kessobahn]

yawn
moring all

gonna be pretty damn busy today, of the afk variety.
Apologies in advance for that.

[Rashan]

Yeah, busy day here too. The good news for me is once I get all the crap and chores accomplished I get to go see Star Trek which looks fantastic.

Not too much occured during the night it seems, have Galain's case on Ano (though it is Anomandaris not Anomander) and another on Kesso. Of the two I prefer the one on Ano but not prepared to vote on it yet. I believe there is still plenty of time left so I'd like to see Ano's reaction to it.

I'll be in and out throughout the afternoon.

[Anomandaris]

Back and find three votes on me. Not terribly surprised. Game and Korv's votes are mad, at least Galain had the decency to make a case.

Game and Korv, would you explain why you are voting for me…and don't argue Galain's case, unless you can see into the future…or there are other reasons??

We can't afford to lose another member of the town today. I realise I have made mistakes (really I do) but the reason for my outburst had very little to do with my vote on Lio. My post was written as it stands. It isn't hard to underline etc, and years of proof reading generally means my grammar etc tends to be automatic, unless I am relaxed…I wasn't relaxed when I wrote that.

It's pretty hard to defend the fact that you made a mistake. And I made two, misunderstanding Tellan and getting so involved that my emotions took over. I would never normally post like that, but when I saw what had happened in the night I was mortified.

And Galain, you've been pushing this since it happened, and yet I have never tried to jump on the various cases put against you. In fact I have defended you, precisely because of the fact you were pushing a case when no-one else seemed interested.

I really do not know what else to say. I know it's weak, but really, if I was a cool and detached killer composing that post, why on earth would I draw attention to myself like that? I wasn't under any pressure. It was emotion pure and simple. And scum can't afford to get so emotional.

I will say one thing - and that's sorry - to the town. I realise I have brought this on myself and in so doing damaged our chances of victory. And no, I'm not being a martyr.

[Ampelas]

I'm dropping in briefly to post a thought or two. IMO possible killers are either Galain or Kessobahn or maybe both. Both of them have made few mistakes and basically taken no heat at all. I will try to take a closer look at them and make cases later. if more of you could help it would be much appreciated.

I really don't see how Ano has done anything that warrants a lynch. It seems simply to be the latest random lynch target. If we keep up this nonsense play we are definitely going to loose the game to scum. Lets get real. No more being scared of getting lynched, no more panic, no more sheep votes. We need to hit a killer soon.

If we don't find anything scummy in time for a lynch, I say we lynch off the people not participating and with lowest post count. bad timing with the weekend, yeah I know, but it can't be helped. No more stupid sheep lynches.

Kthxbai.

[Omtose]

Kessobahn, on May 9 2009, 05:33 PM, said:

yawn
moring all

gonna be pretty damn busy today, of the afk variety.
Apologies in advance for that.

Any remarks about my case on you?

[Omtose]

Ampelas, on May 9 2009, 07:36 PM, said:

I'm dropping in briefly to post a thought or two. IMO possible killers are either Galain or Kessobahn or maybe both. Both of them have made few mistakes and basically taken no heat at all. I will try to take a closer look at them and make cases later. if more of you could help it would be much appreciated.

I really don't see how Ano has done anything that warrants a lynch. It seems simply to be the latest random lynch target. If we keep up this nonsense play we are definitely going to loose the game to scum. Lets get real. No more being scared of getting lynched, no more panic, no more sheep votes. We need to hit a killer soon.

If we don't find anything scummy in time for a lynch, I say we lynch off the people not participating and with lowest post count. bad timing with the weekend, yeah I know, but it can't be helped. No more stupid sheep lynches.

Kthxbai.

Hmm. You say we have to hit a killer, but if we find nothing scummy we should just start with the lowest poster?

Ampelas, do you honestly believe that the person with the lowest vote count (Tennes at the moment) is scum? And what if he spams the thread, and we end up lynching someone else, do you believe they are scum? Because as you say, today is very important lynch-wise. I can't believe you can say that and then just turn around and say that a pretty much random lynch (i.e. lowest poster) is a good idea.

[Omtose]

So ronery!

[Galain]

*hugs Omtose some more*

[Galain]

Anomandaris, on May 9 2009, 08:07 PM, said:

And Galain, you've been pushing this since it happened, and yet I have never tried to jump on the various cases put against you. In fact I have defended you, precisely because of the fact you were pushing a case when no-one else seemed interested.

Err, well, I appreciate that, but that's more of that "appeal to friendship" that you've been doing a lot. Call me a cold bastard, but just because you don't find me scummy doesn't mean it has to be reciprocal.

I'm not dead set on that vote, I'm just a bit not sure what new lead to explore (unless I fall back to voting Korvalain but at this point I'm almost inclined to give up. Pressuring Korvalain is... unpleasant, I can't imagine what it will feel like to lynch him. Emurlahn suggests this is our last chance to lynch well, I don't agree, but if I did I would make the effort to get Korvalain lynched - symp is better than nothing)

[Galain]

My other candidate would be Rashan for his BUSTED "caught up" comment.

If he was bullshitting there, I'm guessing he's been bullshitting the whole game.

[Emurlahn]

The following quote scares me greatly:

Galain, on May 9 2009, 11:06 AM, said:

Hmmm, I just realized something, it's that there's nothing in the rules that says the symps can't be paired

Path-Shaper, on May 4 2009, 04:24 PM, said:

The following roles could be present for both town and scum. Roles can also be paired.
Guard, BP, Vig, Healer, Finder, Symp, Killer.

Just putting this out there to mess with the killers' brainz. biggrin.gif

It just oozes "Haha, I'm actually scum being clever" to me. And as I've said already, so many of Galain's posts have that ring to them, more so than any other player I've looked at. When I've got the time to look harder, I will, and I'll probably make a fresh case, but in the mean time, please refer to this. Couple that with how cleanly he has played the game, and how it seems like he has really stepped out of the shadows to try and take a grip on the game in the last day or so, and he seems like a good bet for scum to me.

Vote Galain


EDIT: Crosspost with Galain.

This post has been edited by Emurlahn: 09 May 2009 - 07:09 PM

[Galain]

I answered to your "this" case, you even said you were happy with my answers.

I tried to "take a grip on" the game? What the hell does that even mean?

This post has been edited by Galain: 09 May 2009 - 07:11 PM

[Galain]

... and he skipped


typical.

[Tennes]

Vote Fener

Admittedly, I haven't posted much. Lets see if I can make a case on Fener. Just spent quite a bit of time revieiwng all of the thread.

• Fener has consistently made cases against folks who are innocent.
  
• He has never voted for anyone who is still on the suspicious list.
  
• Reviewing his posts and although he has a lot of them, he has revealed less about himself than I have in my < 10 posts.
  
• He hasn't played any meta-cards which nearly everyone else has done. This stikes me as something scum would do cause they wouldn't want to get disqualified.

[Emurlahn]

'Taken a grip' as in becoming more active and attempting to exert more influence on the direction the game is moving. Now is when a killer would want to do that, after all. If they are approaching a majority, then they'd be trying for that last push to get them over the finish line.

While I was satisfied with your answers at the time, the niggle in the back of my head about you didn't go away. And when you made another statement that seemed like it could fit the "I'm a killer trying to be cute" type mold so easily, it brought it back to the fore.

The more I think about it, the weirder that quote I just posted is. Why would the possibility of the symps being paired mess with the killers' brains? It's not like it causes a problem for them or anything.


EDIT: Crosspost with Tennes. @Galain

This post has been edited by Emurlahn: 09 May 2009 - 07:28 PM

[Galain]

Emurlahn, on May 9 2009, 10:27 PM, said:

The more I think about it, the weirder that quote I just posted is. Why would the possibility of the symps being paired mess with the killers' brains? It's not like it causes a problem for them or anything.

It does, considering they just killed one

[Galain]

As for this

Emurlahn, on May 9 2009, 10:27 PM, said:

'Taken a grip' as in becoming more active and attempting to exert more influence on the direction the game is moving. Now is when a killer would want to do that, after all. If they are approaching a majority, then they'd be trying for that last push to get them over the finish line.

Getting a lynch is more than making a case, voting and skipping until after the day time out.

You have to get gritty with the red iron and start sizzling some skin. As for starting now, it's not true. I've been in the thick of things since day 1, not just recently. I started the pressure on Silanah and D'riss, go back and check, very early, like page 5-10 or something.

You're accusing me of playing, basically. You're not saying how my play is scummy, so what can I say to my defense? As for not having killed killers until now, well besides Silanah, all the players I've been arguing to lynch are still alive, so the only blame I'll take is to not be convincing enough.

[Emurlahn]

Galain, on May 9 2009, 08:29 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on May 9 2009, 10:27 PM, said:

The more I think about it, the weirder that quote I just posted is. Why would the possibility of the symps being paired mess with the killers' brains? It's not like it causes a problem for them or anything.

It does, considering they just killed one

It makes no sense for Tellan to make that play if he's a symp. It was quite obvious that the codes were going to draw NKs - and Team Evil does far better out of the situation if they aren't targetting their own symps at night.