[Silanah]

Fact is, scum are rarely found in the first three days by crafty deduction.. It normally comes down to the wire...

[Korvalain]

I am not sure going for serc is wise, right now. This happens alot here, why do we lynch the symp? Why not look at the symps posts and determine who hes trying to signal and who he is ignoring completely.

[Kessobahn]

because that would be clever play,

some of Shadow's posts make me think he may be symping Silanah...

[Silanah]

Or why not get rid of him now, before the other scum come up with something that "clears" him and ruins our chances?
He slipped up, badly. He's either a newish player, and if you are a n00b, I apologise, but if he's experienced, he's making deliberate mistakes

[Kessobahn]

vote Silanah

[Tellan]

Silanah, on May 6 2009, 11:34 AM, said:

Fact is, scum are rarely found in the first three days by crafty deduction.. It normally comes down to the wire...

I see why people keep coming back to you, you are annoying the fuck out of me today and your little "beyond reproach" comment just fucks up other people's game, namely mine. Stop being little Helpy McHelperson.

Liosan, on May 6 2009, 09:43 AM, said:

I very much doubt you have alted me Silanah, especially if you think I am in a strange timezone.

Having done a re-read, I don't have anyone pinned down as being downright scummy. I was a little suspicious of Silanah just because you seem to be a little overbearing, trying to be a little pushy, which always makes me paranoid. However, I am gonna stick by my initial suspicion of Gamelon, mainly based on his jumping on the "town" mention, and claiming that CI'd him.

Vote Gamelon

Vote Liosan

Bad player? Lazy? Didn't read his role? I don't want to say much more than that.

[Korvalain]

Silanah, on May 6 2009, 02:50 PM, said:

Or why not get rid of him now, before the other scum come up with something that "clears" him and ruins our chances?
He slipped up, badly. He's either a newish player, and if you are a n00b, I apologise, but if he's experienced, he's making deliberate mistakes

Aye, again, but if we lynch him now, we all go along thinking we got the symp. On second thought, we'll get his alt on death so maybe. I'll think about it. But now, I'm gonna pour over his posts and see if anything sticks out. Also, today Sil, you are more actively a leader, I don't like it. Not got anything on you as far as scum goes, but theres a definate change in you from yesterday. Almost like you were scared of the link between you and Driss, and now your alot more confident. Just saying, your on the list. At the bottom, but on it.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 14 hours and 48 minutes remaining

20 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Liosan, Mockra, Omtose, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Tellan, Tennes

11 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night

3 votes for Serc: ( Shadow, Silanah, Gamelon )
1 vote for Shadow: ( Ruse )
1 vote for Gamelon: ( Liosan )
2 votes for Tennes: ( Korvalain, Omtose )
1 vote for Liosan: ( Tellan )
1 vote for Korvalain: ( Tennes )
1 vote for Silanah: ( Kessobahn )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Hood's Path, Korlat, Mockra, Rashan, Serc

[Korvalain]

Tellan, on May 6 2009, 02:53 PM, said:

Silanah, on May 6 2009, 11:34 AM, said:

Fact is, scum are rarely found in the first three days by crafty deduction.. It normally comes down to the wire...

I see why people keep coming back to you, you are annoying the fuck out of me today and your little "beyond reproach" comment just fucks up other people's game, namely mine. Stop being little Helpy McHelperson.

Liosan, on May 6 2009, 09:43 AM, said:

I very much doubt you have alted me Silanah, especially if you think I am in a strange timezone.

Having done a re-read, I don't have anyone pinned down as being downright scummy. I was a little suspicious of Silanah just because you seem to be a little overbearing, trying to be a little pushy, which always makes me paranoid. However, I am gonna stick by my initial suspicion of Gamelon, mainly based on his jumping on the "town" mention, and claiming that CI'd him.

Vote Gamelon

Vote Liosan

Bad player? Lazy? Didn't read his role? I don't want to say much more than that.

There we go. So, anyway, would you mind elaborating a little, the quote you posted didn't really explain it so well. To be honest, I agree with his reasoning in the quote you posted. Game did jump on the town thing which has been discussed above. So a little more reason behind the vote without sayying more than you want, would be nice.

[Emurlahn]

Seems I've missed a fair bit, catching up now.

[Kessobahn]

okay, having finshed a re-read, there's a lot of things Sil does that scum wouldn't do, but his sudden push for serc is irritating the fuck out of me.

the other person I don't like is ampelas--for his "holier than thou" attitude on Day 1 ("I just want this disastrous day 1 to end") and his willingness to jump everywhere.

[Korvalain]

Nah typical day 2 stuff. Symp reveals possible roled inno. Possible roled inno says, bs im not roled, but claims to be inno. You know, nothing major.

[Korvalain]

Hello? Why are 5 people lurking.

[Korvalain]

Kess - what do you mean, Amps willingness to jump everyone.

[Fener]

Korvalain, on May 6 2009, 03:23 PM, said:

Hello? Why are 5 people lurking.

Sorry, I'm one of these. During re-read the game got real complicated real fast with the Serc back and forths, and so I'm trying to analyze the D'riss train and what's going on now, as well as watch the Chelsea-Barca game. After the game I'll attempt to post something coherent without muddying the waters any more than they are now.

[Emurlahn]

Silanah, on May 6 2009, 02:59 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on May 6 2009, 02:56 PM, said:

@Sil

Anomandaris, on May 5 2009, 07:36 PM, said:

My thoughts are not a lot clearer for that read. For what it's worth though, Korv's case on D'riss seems pretty good for day 1. So,

Vote D'riss

and also for the reasons I gave earlier

I joined here, after Korv had done his detailed case and after I had made some other comments.

I completely missed that Kess wasn't on the train. I could have sworn he was.

I know what you mean, actually. Until I checked up, I thought he was too, but instead, he was voting Telas... I'm kind of wondering what that suggests; it really seems a little like Telas was killed to make Kessobahn look suspicious...

So the reason you joined the train was Korv's case, and also you found D'riss suspicious yourself? Grrr, this train annoys me...

I didn't like this leap in logic - I really don't see how the NK on Telas is at all setup on Kessobahn.

I was originally going to find a few other Silanah posts and see if I could find a theme emerging connecting him and Kesso, but then I realised that he's pretty much been defending everybody, myself included (with the exceptions of Tennes and more recently Serc, see the post below):

Silanah, on May 6 2009, 05:19 PM, said:

Tennes, on May 6 2009, 04:12 PM, said:

Boo! Sorry for lurking.. have a lot going on and this thread is moving so fast I can barely follow it!

My thoughts so far:

• There aren't a lot of patterns so far even with careful review. D'Riss was a true lynching with no reason.
  
• There are talkative folks and nontalkative folks.
  
• Talkative could either be a real inno OR a scum trying to look like an inno...
  
• My vote for Meanas was really 100% cause he said Princess Bride was "no big deal". No better reason needed on day 1! heh

After 15 minutes of reviewing... nothing jumps out. Grrr

You, sir, are an expert at sitting on the fence.
Pray tell, are you a nervous killer bereft of the guidance usually delivered to you by your partner, and thus have decided to make no decisions and parrot what I and other players have been saying all game?

Don't really have an incredibly cogent point to make here...I thought he might be a symp, but my suspicions are now allayed somewhat. I shall have a look at Serc and see how bad his misdemeanour was earlier.

[Korvalain]

Sigh. 6 lurkers now.

[Korlat]

Every single time that I manage to get on shit has seemed to hit the fan. First as I don't want you guys to think that I don't have anything to say about what is currently happening some thoughts that I had after reading through. It seemed to me that Serc is perhaps noob and made a noob mistake. I can't see a killer (in his right mind) coming out and saying something like that on thread. It is possible that Serc is a symp for who I don't know. Since this isn't the last game I am not going to play like the symps get to take over for the killers. Playing the last game over in a new game is moronic. If Serc is a symp then fine who is he symping that is the person I want to lynch. I am not defending Serc I am just throwing out my thoughts after getting caught up.

Now I have a particular distrust for people who make absolutely no effort at all to play the game and only come on and toss a vote in. They are a liability later on in the game because if they are scum then there is nothing with which to make a case on. Now I think that Gamelon pointed out a little earlier that Tennes only has 4 posts. Well here they are. As you can see they are nothing much at all. One is a joke vote and the other is OMGUS vote.

Tennes, on May 5 2009, 04:23 PM, said:

Meanas, on May 4 2009, 09:35 AM, said:

I watched the Princess Bride once. It was okay, nothing too special.

I'm snapping to judgement on day 1, but clearly scum! :-)

Vote Meanas!

Tennes, on May 7 2009, 03:12 AM, said:

Boo! Sorry for lurking.. have a lot going on and this thread is moving so fast I can barely follow it!

My thoughts so far:

• There aren't a lot of patterns so far even with careful review. D'Riss was a true lynching with no reason.
  
• There are talkative folks and nontalkative folks.
  
• Talkative could either be a real inno OR a scum trying to look like an inno...
  
• My vote for Meanas was really 100% cause he said Princess Bride was "no big deal". No better reason needed on day 1! heh

After 15 minutes of reviewing... nothing jumps out. Grrr

Tennes, on May 7 2009, 03:18 AM, said:

Korvalain, on May 6 2009, 11:12 AM, said:

Well, I am going to try and summon Tennes by placing a vote on him

Vote Tennes

Wow.. crazy cross-post at same time I was posting.

Vote Korvalain: Upon review, he just seems a bit too clever and like he knows more or has more power. Plus he just dropped a vote on me!

Tennes, on May 7 2009, 03:18 AM, said:

Back to the real world for a few hours.

Now I totally understand rl issues god knows I have a lot of them right now. But someone should at least be able to post a more thoughts on what has happened in the game then "Back to the real world". After everything that went down in the d'riss lynch and then meanas and telas getting nked Tennes has no thoughts what so ever on whether we have a vig and a killer or 2 killers. What good are you to the town then.

Vote Tennes

[Korvalain]

@ Fener, yeah, I know, Im just post padding. Bored at work and no one to talk to = spam. Also, I am really just wanting to hear more from Tellan. I might be willing to move on Liosan, mostly for middle of the roading, no commitment etc. As I am not fond of lynching Serc TBH, and Tennes is gone again, so no info there. However, if theres more on Liosan that I am too dense to see I would like to hear it.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 14 hours and 4 minutes remaining

20 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Liosan, Mockra, Omtose, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Tellan, Tennes

11 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night

3 votes for Serc: ( Shadow, Silanah, Gamelon )
1 vote for Shadow: ( Ruse )
1 vote for Gamelon: ( Liosan )
3 votes for Tennes: ( Korvalain, Omtose, Korlat )
1 vote for Liosan: ( Tellan )
1 vote for Korvalain: ( Tennes )
1 vote for Silanah: ( Kessobahn )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Hood's Path, Mockra, Rashan, Serc