[Hood's Path]

Tellan, on May 8 2009, 07:52 AM, said:

Hood's Path, on May 8 2009, 04:58 AM, said:

Tellan, on May 7 2009, 04:14 PM, said:

Sorry I had to reread like 10 people from Serc down on the post list. I still find Mockra's play very questionable. I didn't actually think Tennes looked terrible in 5 posts until I came back and saw the middle of the train, drive-by vote. Ampelas reads like someone frustrated with the game but trying to be helpful. Hood's Path is annoying because I dislike that type of game play, but I think I do see the Ruse connection Rashan made above. Rashan's posts didn't ding any bells, but the vote was very interesting. People that play like HP almost always get assumed CI and make it very hard for scum to make a case on them otherwise they take up a night kill. HP claims to be gone all weekend, so good time to try and get a day wasting lynch on him. Similar thing happened last game in the closing days when someone was basically meta-CI'd. Serc, Emu, Fener and Ano I was rather indifferent in my read through. If I missed anyone it's not intentional.

Cross post I'm sure.

How am i "playing"

besides not being able to be online much, what "type" of game play do you say i am playing, you make it sound like i have been gone on purpose.
Everyone knows i cant get online on the weekends...again so what are you on about?

Everyone playing doesn't know that. The "type" of game you are playing is the meta-defense game. It is a game because you brought it on to the board and now you are basically alting yourself on thread to those people who should be able to figure it out. It happens to be my pet peeve and so I call it out when I see it. Why? Because it's a virtually unassailable position, there is no counter-argument to it. I can't come over to your house and say no guys he's lurking all weekend, we caught him! So again what's the problem? By introducing it on thread we now have to decide whether we believe you or not and whether or not you are using it as a tactic and will never get that information. I'm not sure why you are upset as I said for most people it's probably going to CI you as it has in the past. I just hate it because it steals focus and it's not a game related defense.

so let me get this straight?....you think i am faking it?

well thats just like...your opinion man

[Tellan]

Hood's Path, on May 8 2009, 06:06 AM, said:

Tellan, on May 8 2009, 07:52 AM, said:

Hood's Path, on May 8 2009, 04:58 AM, said:

Tellan, on May 7 2009, 04:14 PM, said:

Sorry I had to reread like 10 people from Serc down on the post list. I still find Mockra's play very questionable. I didn't actually think Tennes looked terrible in 5 posts until I came back and saw the middle of the train, drive-by vote. Ampelas reads like someone frustrated with the game but trying to be helpful. Hood's Path is annoying because I dislike that type of game play, but I think I do see the Ruse connection Rashan made above. Rashan's posts didn't ding any bells, but the vote was very interesting. People that play like HP almost always get assumed CI and make it very hard for scum to make a case on them otherwise they take up a night kill. HP claims to be gone all weekend, so good time to try and get a day wasting lynch on him. Similar thing happened last game in the closing days when someone was basically meta-CI'd. Serc, Emu, Fener and Ano I was rather indifferent in my read through. If I missed anyone it's not intentional.

Cross post I'm sure.

How am i "playing"

besides not being able to be online much, what "type" of game play do you say i am playing, you make it sound like i have been gone on purpose.
Everyone knows i cant get online on the weekends...again so what are you on about?

Everyone playing doesn't know that. The "type" of game you are playing is the meta-defense game. It is a game because you brought it on to the board and now you are basically alting yourself on thread to those people who should be able to figure it out. It happens to be my pet peeve and so I call it out when I see it. Why? Because it's a virtually unassailable position, there is no counter-argument to it. I can't come over to your house and say no guys he's lurking all weekend, we caught him! So again what's the problem? By introducing it on thread we now have to decide whether we believe you or not and whether or not you are using it as a tactic and will never get that information. I'm not sure why you are upset as I said for most people it's probably going to CI you as it has in the past. I just hate it because it steals focus and it's not a game related defense.

so let me get this straight?....you think i am faking it?

well thats just like...your opinion man

no nobody can ever (k)now if you are, that's the point, you brought it on thread in a game of mafia, what do you expect? the sadistic part of me hopes you are a killer and you float the weekend and win the game because then nobody can use the tactic again.

edit- in parenthesis

This post has been edited by Tellan: 08 May 2009 - 01:13 PM

[Korvalain]

Hood's Path, on May 8 2009, 09:06 AM, said:

Tellan, on May 8 2009, 07:52 AM, said:

Hood's Path, on May 8 2009, 04:58 AM, said:

Tellan, on May 7 2009, 04:14 PM, said:

Sorry I had to reread like 10 people from Serc down on the post list. I still find Mockra's play very questionable. I didn't actually think Tennes looked terrible in 5 posts until I came back and saw the middle of the train, drive-by vote. Ampelas reads like someone frustrated with the game but trying to be helpful. Hood's Path is annoying because I dislike that type of game play, but I think I do see the Ruse connection Rashan made above. Rashan's posts didn't ding any bells, but the vote was very interesting. People that play like HP almost always get assumed CI and make it very hard for scum to make a case on them otherwise they take up a night kill. HP claims to be gone all weekend, so good time to try and get a day wasting lynch on him. Similar thing happened last game in the closing days when someone was basically meta-CI'd. Serc, Emu, Fener and Ano I was rather indifferent in my read through. If I missed anyone it's not intentional.

Cross post I'm sure.

How am i "playing"

besides not being able to be online much, what "type" of game play do you say i am playing, you make it sound like i have been gone on purpose.
Everyone knows i cant get online on the weekends...again so what are you on about?

Everyone playing doesn't know that. The "type" of game you are playing is the meta-defense game. It is a game because you brought it on to the board and now you are basically alting yourself on thread to those people who should be able to figure it out. It happens to be my pet peeve and so I call it out when I see it. Why? Because it's a virtually unassailable position, there is no counter-argument to it. I can't come over to your house and say no guys he's lurking all weekend, we caught him! So again what's the problem? By introducing it on thread we now have to decide whether we believe you or not and whether or not you are using it as a tactic and will never get that information. I'm not sure why you are upset as I said for most people it's probably going to CI you as it has in the past. I just hate it because it steals focus and it's not a game related defense.

so let me get this straight?....you think i am faking it?

well thats just like...your opinion man

No, its fucking rediculous is what it is. Tellan, you may be new, if so, apologies, but its just good ethics to not bash on someone for RL stuff. Life happens, the game is the lesser of the 2. If you can function and be helpful without letting RL get in the way, cool, if RL starts blowing up, well, you do your best, if thats not good enough you get modkilled. But we all know (I assume Im right on my guess on HP) that he never, ever plays on weekends. Ever. And thats ok, we have a weekend break because, I have shit I gots to do, and cant be bothered posting all day every day on my weekend. Bad form Tellan, not scummy, but noobish, anyway.

[Gamelon]

Korvalain, on May 8 2009, 02:06 PM, said:

Gamelon, on May 8 2009, 08:44 AM, said:

@korv - i have sort of calmed down slightly, but i just want to know, did you try to be so disruptive, because to me, for two days running you have somehow made everything go to shit in a handgrenade.

Its all in spoilers. Thats all i can say. however the fact that HP actually understands who started what and when, makes me feel a little better. I keep getting flack for being disruptive. But thats not how the whole thing went down. Although reading the thread, I see were that assumption came from. I am super agressive at times (mostly RL issues, bleeding into the game), but when I think I found scum, I push, and flail, and kick, and scream, and expect everyone to see what I see. However not many people do, and I end up looking like a douche. So yeah, you want to say I have been kicking up a shit-storm ,I say nope, I've just been pushing my case against tons of people, who don't really know the whole story. Which is in fact typed up and sitting on a shelf in spoilers waiting to be read.

fair enough, i used to play that way but it kept getting me lynched

@hp - there are a lot of players just coasting by, tennes is the most obvious in my mind but even rashan who is usually more active is barely posting.

[Hood's Path]

Korvalain, on May 8 2009, 08:06 AM, said:

Gamelon, on May 8 2009, 08:44 AM, said:

@korv - i have sort of calmed down slightly, but i just want to know, did you try to be so disruptive, because to me, for two days running you have somehow made everything go to shit in a handgrenade.

Its all in spoilers. Thats all i can say. however the fact that HP actually understands who started what and when, makes me feel a little better. I keep getting flack for being disruptive. But thats not how the whole thing went down. Although reading the thread, I see were that assumption came from. I am super agressive at times (mostly RL issues, bleeding into the game), but when I think I found scum, I push, and flail, and kick, and scream, and expect everyone to see what I see. However not many people do, and I end up looking like a douche. So yeah, you want to say I have been kicking up a shit-storm ,I say nope, I've just been pushing my case against tons of people, who don't really know the whole story. Which is in fact typed up and sitting on a shelf in spoilers waiting to be read.

yeah...reading through it all makes perfect sense to me...thats why i am suspect of guys that cant make head or tail of it.

[Hood's Path]

Korvalain, on May 8 2009, 08:06 AM, said:

Gamelon, on May 8 2009, 08:44 AM, said:

@korv - i have sort of calmed down slightly, but i just want to know, did you try to be so disruptive, because to me, for two days running you have somehow made everything go to shit in a handgrenade.

Its all in spoilers. Thats all i can say. however the fact that HP actually understands who started what and when, makes me feel a little better. I keep getting flack for being disruptive. But thats not how the whole thing went down. Although reading the thread, I see were that assumption came from. I am super agressive at times (mostly RL issues, bleeding into the game), but when I think I found scum, I push, and flail, and kick, and scream, and expect everyone to see what I see. However not many people do, and I end up looking like a douche. So yeah, you want to say I have been kicking up a shit-storm ,I say nope, I've just been pushing my case against tons of people, who don't really know the whole story. Which is in fact typed up and sitting on a shelf in spoilers waiting to be read.

yeah...reading through it all makes perfect sense to me...thats why i am suspect of guys that cant make head or tail of it.

[Galain]

OK, I guess one last comment about this because time is running short today.

So, HP totally sees where Korvalain comes from with his about-face, he has to be poor inno, and not purposeful outing of roled players. OK, here's the whole sequence:

Korvalain, on May 7 2009, 02:01 AM, said:

At Kess - or whoever said using pms to uncover scum is bad...I din't Game did. Lio got caught. Sil isn't his partner, hes his symp. And this game could quicly de-volve further, by everyone not voting Liosan, just to see if we are right, if we are wrong, then vote off me tellan and gamelon in that order if you want. Stretching it out only gives scum more info. Exactly what Sil is doing.

Tellan, on May 7 2009, 02:03 AM, said:

and screw you Korv for making me explain my initial vague vote on thread.

Kessobahn, on May 7 2009, 02:03 AM, said:

Korvalain, on May 6 2009, 07:01 PM, said:

At Kess - or whoever said using pms to uncover scum is bad...I din't Game did. Lio got caught. Sil isn't his partner, hes his symp. And this game could quicly de-volve further, by everyone not voting Liosan, just to see if we are right, if we are wrong, then vote off me tellan and gamelon in that order if you want. Stretching it out only gives scum more info. Exactly what Sil is doing.

you realize that by telling people waht to do like that you are likely to elicit a completely opposite reaction, right?

Liosan, on May 7 2009, 02:04 AM, said:

So you have reread my posts and you still think my PM wasn't the same as yours Korv bar the seemingly magical disappearance of "of the" in my PM?

Liosan, on May 7 2009, 02:06 AM, said:

Gah, screw this, lynch me if you want, all you will have done is find I am inno and wasted a lynch. I am now seriously suspicious of Tellan and Korv for not reading the bloody obvious clues I have left.

Korvalain, on May 7 2009, 02:07 AM, said:

Liosan, on May 6 2009, 07:04 PM, said:

So you have reread my posts and you still think my PM wasn't the same as yours Korv bar the seemingly magical disappearance of "of the" in my PM?

yup. I disagree completely.

AtKess - yeah, however, to get the thread off the topic of roles etc. it would be the smart thing to do.
@ Tellan - too late bro. I asked you told. No taking i back now.

Korvalain, on May 7 2009, 02:09 AM, said:

I take it back Liosan you are inno
Tellan you have one chance to keep me from lynching you,.

So, the only explaination I see is that Korvalain was not reading the preceeding posts carefully, or reading them too fast, a bit like HP had to do in his massive speed-catch up. Maybe I am condenscending because I read, and re-read, the whole thing a few times and slowly. I that light, Korvalain's actions do seem very scummy, to the point of being purposeful.

OK then, that's Korvalain's defense, he's telling us that, being in the thick of a minefield discussion whose point was to expose roled players, he couldn't even read things properly? Blows my mind, but anyways.

[Hood's Path]

[Korvalain]

Well, fuck me. A light dawned and I see that Tellan is a noob. Shit.

[Hood's Path]

[Hood's Path]

Korvalain, on May 8 2009, 08:06 AM, said:

Gamelon, on May 8 2009, 08:44 AM, said:

@korv - i have sort of calmed down slightly, but i just want to know, did you try to be so disruptive, because to me, for two days running you have somehow made everything go to shit in a handgrenade.

Its all in spoilers. Thats all i can say. however the fact that HP actually understands who started what and when, makes me feel a little better. I keep getting flack for being disruptive. But thats not how the whole thing went down. Although reading the thread, I see were that assumption came from. I am super agressive at times (mostly RL issues, bleeding into the game), but when I think I found scum, I push, and flail, and kick, and scream, and expect everyone to see what I see. However not many people do, and I end up looking like a douche. So yeah, you want to say I have been kicking up a shit-storm ,I say nope, I've just been pushing my case against tons of people, who don't really know the whole story. Which is in fact typed up and sitting on a shelf in spoilers waiting to be read.

yeah...reading through it all makes perfect sense to me...thats why i am suspect of guys that cant make head or tail of it.

[Anomandaris]

@Tellan ~ why are you doing this? RL has an affect on how any of us are able to get on to play, and despite everything it affects our game. To my mind HP is the only one who has made any sense in this game (and no I'm not symping him ...after all he said I was cruising - the rascal).

I thought it made sense to mention if RL is going to stop you being on line...in fact I have been told by mods in previous games to do just that.


Edit: Cross post.

This post has been edited by Anomandaris: 08 May 2009 - 01:21 PM

[Korvalain]

Hood's Path, on May 8 2009, 09:18 AM, said:

Korvalain, on May 8 2009, 08:06 AM, said:

Gamelon, on May 8 2009, 08:44 AM, said:

@korv - i have sort of calmed down slightly, but i just want to know, did you try to be so disruptive, because to me, for two days running you have somehow made everything go to shit in a handgrenade.

Its all in spoilers. Thats all i can say. however the fact that HP actually understands who started what and when, makes me feel a little better. I keep getting flack for being disruptive. But thats not how the whole thing went down. Although reading the thread, I see were that assumption came from. I am super agressive at times (mostly RL issues, bleeding into the game), but when I think I found scum, I push, and flail, and kick, and scream, and expect everyone to see what I see. However not many people do, and I end up looking like a douche. So yeah, you want to say I have been kicking up a shit-storm ,I say nope, I've just been pushing my case against tons of people, who don't really know the whole story. Which is in fact typed up and sitting on a shelf in spoilers waiting to be read.

yeah...reading through it all makes perfect sense to me...thats why i am suspect of guys that cant make head or tail of it.

Better to not bring this part up anymore. As it only helps scum.

[Korvalain]

HUH? Double post

This post has been edited by Korvalain: 08 May 2009 - 01:22 PM

[Galain]

There's less than 8 hours left in the day I think, and I'm off soon. I'll propably been back on time, but I'm not 100% sure being Friday and all, so I'll

remove vote
vote Ampelas

For the reasons that were mentionned by others before, I'll go back and quote the parts I agree with.

[Korvalain]

Hoods path- help me out here. How do I tell people that they are fucking stupid, and need to shut up, without painting a target 10 miles wide on there backs?

[Galain]

This post and the one after that by Kessobahn, I believe contain good elements.

[Tellan]

Anomandaris, on May 8 2009, 06:21 AM, said:

@Tellan ~ why are you doing this? RL has an affect on how any of us are able to get on to play, and despite everything it affects our game. To my mind HP is the only one who has made any sense in this game (and no I'm not symping him ...after all he said I was cruising - the rascal).

I thought it made sense to mention if RL is going to stop you being on line...in fact I have been told by mods in previous games to do just that.


Edit: Cross post.

Fine I put my thoughts on the matter in SH.

[Hood's Path]

sweet jesus

SERENITY NOW !!!!!



can someone please explain to me....how in the FUCK i can have a double post, nestled between a fucking triple fucking post????
what the fuck , do you people see what im dealing with here, and this a when the internet is WORKING!!!!

[Korvalain]

Galain, on May 8 2009, 09:28 AM, said:

This post and the one after that by Kessobahn, I believe contain good elements.

Different things. Those arent RL getting in the way posts, those are, Im too lazy to read the thread myself and make my own judgements right now, someone do it for me posts.

Your saying, RL issues should come after the game has ended. Plus again, we all know (us old grumpy hands) that theres always one who really cant play on weekends. thats been true for a year, a really elaborate lie, ,if he does it for a year straight......


Holy Shit!!!!