[Fener]

Korlat, on Apr 27 2009, 11:49 AM, said:

Screw it, no point wasting any more time...
Vote Mockra

Do you have me on ignore? I think I explained the reason why we should wait quite clearly.

[Korlat]

Fener, on Apr 27 2009, 10:59 PM, said:

Korlat, on Apr 27 2009, 11:49 AM, said:

Screw it, no point wasting any more time...
Vote Mockra

Do you have me on ignore? I think I explained the reason why we should wait quite clearly.

I don't care to prolong the inevitable, im going offline soon so I want to see if it was bullshit or truth

[Path-Shaper]

Rabble,RABBLE,RABBLE!!!!!!

There is a stirring in the crowd ahead.


"I have psycic powers! And This man is Bent's man!!!!"

Bushit you thi.....wait, shit thats your partner!

"I have psycic powoersss tooo....and that Psidcic, is really psysid..psychi,...can see the future!"

Damn, one sooth-sayer, backing up another sooth-sayer? Hmmmm.

"Lets kill him" you say. Shit, hope the boss sent backup.

Mockra is dead (Hoosierdaddy) - He was Bents bouncer and scum


YAY! WOOT! WOO-HOO.

The psychics had it right. Hell that one there is dancing. No not dancing....flailing!!! Shit, someone should have been watching!!

Kessobahn is dead(Peanutbutta) - He was innocent



It is Day 4. 24 hours and 5 minutes remaining

18 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Gamelon, Korlat, Meanas, Omtose, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

10 votes to lynch, 9 votes to go to night


Players not voted: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Gamelon, Korlat, Meanas, Omtose, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 27 April 2009 - 01:48 PM

[Shadow]

Bouncer? Meaning evil guard?

I'd like to hear the opinions of Anomandaris (quite vocally against Fener) on this.

[Shadow]

As for Kesso's death, not unexpected...leave Fener who was the fishier of the two.

Did your find come up with anything Fener?

[Shadow]

The question is, if bouncer means guard, I guess that would mean all symps remain symps, as no killer was lynched, right?

[Ruse]

CF's are wierd too, we got barkeep inno and bouncer scum, and the rest were just inno, shouldn't Kess come up like exotic dancer inno or something if he's roled finder?

[Serc]

Shadow, on Apr 27 2009, 01:23 PM, said:

The question is, if bouncer means guard, I guess that would mean all symps remain symps, as no killer was lynched, right?

By definition a symp CFs inno... I think maybe we hit roled scum who wasnt a killer. Assuming bouncer does mean guard of which there is no evidence. Maybe all of the scum are Bent's employees and he just want's to spice the game up a little or something.

[Serc]

Also, did we get alt CFs last time?

[Shadow]

Yes, but my question was, is there another killer now replacing Mockra, and one less symp, or the same number of symps, if we assume Mockra was an evil guard and not a killer?

Edit: @ Serc

This post has been edited by Shadow: 27 April 2009 - 11:37 AM

[Serc]

Shadow, on Apr 27 2009, 01:36 PM, said:

Yes, but my question was, is there another killer now replacing Mockra, and one less symp, or the same number of symps, if we assume Mockra was an evil guard and not a killer?

Edit: @ Serc

Well Bent said we have to kill ALL the scum, so I would assume there is one less symp now.

[Serc]

Quoted case coming up, but for now

vote Meanas

For pinging my scumdar all game. He jumped on Fener the second Fener put a case on Mockra day one and made a ridiculous case against Shadow saying that Shadow was scummy for pointing out Driss possibly signalling Mockra. I put it down to him being new and not properly understanding the difference between coding and signalling, but seeing as how Mockra CF'd scum it looks incredibly suspicious.

[Anomandaris]

So fener, you paired or what? the answer to that question will sway me which way i go next.

[Shadow]

Anomandaris, on Apr 27 2009, 12:51 PM, said:

So fener, you paired or what? the answer to that question will sway me which way i go next.

How would it sway you? For one thing, the rules stated that role MAY be paired, so nothing is certain.

[Anomandaris]

Shadow, on Apr 27 2009, 12:55 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on Apr 27 2009, 12:51 PM, said:

So fener, you paired or what? the answer to that question will sway me which way i go next.

How would it sway you? For one thing, the rules stated that role MAY be paired, so nothing is certain.

Well i dont believe him, even now.

There was no reason for kess to reveal and no way in a tdmi 1 or 2 that we would have two finders that were not working together. Kess was killed so he was most likely a genuine finder. That the symp can become a killer gives fener good cause to out one of them as it clears him for the rest of the game in most peoples eyes. I dont want his partners name, i just want to know if he has one because it will make his claim more believable.

[Fener]

Shadow, on Apr 27 2009, 12:20 PM, said:

Did your find come up with anything Fener?

No, given that Kesso died. I thought better safe than sorry, but obviously with perfect hindsight I wish i'd picked someone else.

I'm a barmaid, by the way. So the assumption that bouncer and barkeep were roled is a reasonable one, I think. The only problem is that we don't know whether the bouncer role was a guard or just a killer.

[Meanas]

This game is really taking some heavy turns. Unfortunate that we had two finder reveals, one would have been enough imo. But done is done.

Serc, on Apr 27 2009, 01:46 PM, said:

Quoted case coming up, but for now

vote Meanas

For pinging my scumdar all game. He jumped on Fener the second Fener put a case on Mockra day one and made a ridiculous case against Shadow saying that Shadow was scummy for pointing out Driss possibly signalling Mockra. I put it down to him being new and not properly understanding the difference between coding and signalling, but seeing as how Mockra CF'd scum it looks incredibly suspicious.

:Surprise:


I was not alone in jumping on Fener, fyi. I was hot on Shadow yesterday because that stuff needed to be spotlighted. Furthermore I never said the possible coding couldn't be scum coding. Are you defending Shadow now, or how are we supposed to interpret this?
I think the fact that Mockra was scum would make us all look at D'riss direction, no? So either Shadow was distancing, or he has helped us catch more scum.

[Shadow]

Well, if you're a barmaid, it stands to reason that if Kesso was telling the truth about being a finder, he would have come up as barmaid on the CF, but he didn't.

So where does that leave us?

1) Kessobahn lied about being finder, because he was so convinced that Mockra was evil.

2) Fener is lying about being a finder, and just trying to elaborate in order to give it more credence.

3) Path-Shaper forgot to tell us Kesso is barmaid.

4) Barmaid has no link at all to being a finder.

5) Kesso and Fener are/were both symps, and this was an elaborate ploy to get one of them to take over as killer as well as becoming PI.

This post has been edited by Shadow: 27 April 2009 - 12:08 PM

[Serc]

Ok my day one case against Meanas can be found Here, continued two posts later.

Meanas's playstyle at that point had already struck a chord, but hadnt done anything big enough to garner a vote. With Mockra's CF the important thing to note here is Meanas puts a vote on Fener almost immediately after Fener votes Mockra.

Shortly after my case Shadow posts this:

Shadow, on Apr 25 2009, 12:42 PM, said:

Okay, it's not exactly a case, but here's some stuff on D'riss to consider:

D'riss, on Apr 24 2009, 04:20 PM, said:

I love yous Mockra, me ole buddy, me ole pal...yoush the best mate a bloke can have *wipes tear away* did you shay you'd buy me a beer?

D'riss, on Apr 24 2009, 04:26 PM, said:

I really love yous, Mocks me ole buddy, me ole pal

Two posts in quick succession professing his undying love of Mockra - symp signalling to his master perhaps? After that, there's a lot of general "drunken banter", some examples below:

There's more to it, but take note of the wording of the underlined sentence.

Quite a while later Shadow points Meanas to that post and Meanas starts kicking up a little bit of a fuss. I come on a bit later and an argument with Meanas follows starting Here.

There's a lot of stuff that follows, much of it repetition, but take note of the underlined sentence in the quote below.

Meanas, on Apr 26 2009, 10:47 PM, said:

Anomandaris, Shadow directed me to a case he had made post # 394, at which I noticed he actually outed possible paired innos, saying they were coding. I'm not sure it's actually coding, but if it is, it's just as likely to be inno coding, which you would think Shadow would think about before outing them. Apparently he didn't.

I'm keeping my vote on Shadow for now, because his oblivious coding case just irks me. I'm willing to change to Fener if necessary though.

Now Shadow did no such thing, his wording was that Driss was signalling. So basically Meanas puts forward a BS case on Shadow for pointing out a possible symp signalling Mockra, who now CFs scum.

All in all I think it's very very likely Meanas is a symp. Since we have to get the symps anyway, I have no problem going for him today but I would obviously prefer going after someone who will CF scum (assuming Meanas hasnt moved up). Driss is a possibility, although the case against him is based pretty much exclusively on the two quotes Shadow found. A couple of Ano's posts have also raised my eyebrows, although I dont see why he would still be so aggressive towards Fener when it was obvious Mockra was just about to be lynched.

[Fener]

Meanas, on Apr 27 2009, 01:03 PM, said:

I was not alone in jumping on Fener, fyi.

Unfortunately for you, if we don't lynch people because they're not alone in defending Mockra and attacking me, we're not going to lynch anyone.

My top 3 choices right now are Meanas, Emurlahn or Omtose. There are plenty of other possibilities, though. Anomandaris is sounding like a symp trying to do his masters a favour.