[Slum]

Maybe I was being touchy...but I was mostly joking.

It just sounded to me like you were insinuating that American audiences are full of dummies that need their films to have spoon-fed plots and unambiguous endings. Which might have a grain of truth to it, but it's only alright for Americans to say it dammit!

[HoosierDaddy]

I take the time to come out with a cogent response... and Slum just gives away all our secrets.

[Slum]

Haha. Yeah, sorry HD. I started typing that before you posted your response (which was much better, btw) but I got a phone call and didn't get to post it till a bit later.

Mez should just respond to your post and ignore mine.

[Zanth13]

Knowing was really really wierd and random, not sure i liked it...

[RodeoRanch]

Just saw "The Mist." Very good film. Quite thrilling at presenting the monsters inside and outside of the supermarket.


Also seriously depressing ending. Seriously.

[HoosierDaddy]

@RR: That is actually my favorite King short-story (outside of Different Season's 4 novellas). I thought they did a really good job with it overall. But, to be honest I liked the short story's ending, however, that would have had fans rampaging.

Hardcore ending.

[Zanth13]

@rodeo, hell yeah that was a messed up movie, i loved it...

liked all the dark tower pics at the beginning

[amphibian]

HoosierDaddy, on Mar 22 2009, 10:05 PM, said:

Can I have examples of other movies that are clearly made for American audiences, I'm curious as to what might make these movies stand out.

BASEketball? Saving Private Ryan?

[HoosierDaddy]

I don't agree with either of those, especially Saving Private Ryan.

Baseketball isn't really about the two individual sports at all. They make up an imaginary game with their own rules, so knowledge of the more "American" sports isn't necessary.

Saving Private Ryan is based around American soldiers, but I'm sure that other nations who took part in D-Day find some gritty reality in this movie as well.

[Mezla PigDog]

HoosierDaddy, on Mar 23 2009, 12:05 AM, said:

Saving Private Ryan is based around American soldiers, but I'm sure that other nations who took part in D-Day find some gritty reality in this movie as well.

Yes, and at the same time were astonished to see that America singlehandedly won WWII.

I can't think of examples off the top of my head because it is one of those Hollywood things you take foregranted. It's not surprising that a movie named after a Ford car was made for American's though. It was about very American themes - war vets, guns, gangs and immigration. Admittedly all themes that can be applied to other nationalities, but done in a very American-centric way.

But also I was being patronising about the Yanks. One thing this trip has done is reinforce my stereotypical view of the American middle classes. Obviously there are exceptions and I can understand how it can offend as I see myself as an exception to the British stereotypes (barring my obsessive love for tea, lack of tolerance for sunshine and love of rain).

[Obdigore]

Mezla PigDog, on Mar 23 2009, 09:32 AM, said:

HoosierDaddy, on Mar 23 2009, 12:05 AM, said:

Saving Private Ryan is based around American soldiers, but I'm sure that other nations who took part in D-Day find some gritty reality in this movie as well.

Yes, and at the same time were astonished to see that America singlehandedly won WWII.

I can't think of examples off the top of my head because it is one of those Hollywood things you take foregranted. It's not surprising that a movie named after a Ford car was made for American's though. It was about very American themes - war vets, guns, gangs and immigration. Admittedly all themes that can be applied to other nationalities, but done in a very American-centric way.

But also I was being patronising about the Yanks. One thing this trip has done is reinforce my stereotypical view of the American middle classes. Obviously there are exceptions and I can understand how it can offend as I see myself as an exception to the British stereotypes (barring my obsessive love for tea, lack of tolerance for sunshine and love of rain).

Let's not forget your terrible teeth, different dialects 3 miles down the road, and your overabudance of chavs.

I mean, if you are going to be an elitist snob, go whe whole route.

Anyway, I saw 'I love you, Man.'

Meh... had some good points, your typical romantic comedy hash.

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

HoosierDaddy, on Mar 22 2009, 07:05 PM, said:

Mezla PigDog, on Mar 22 2009, 09:14 PM, said:

So, to be fair it is a 50/50 chance that you were just being snobby. However, knowing that your inherent nature is to be polite, I'll believe you.

It actually seems that her inherent nature is to PRETEND to be polite. Just saying.

[Mezla PigDog]

Jesus, what's with the fucking character assassination?

[Obdigore]

Mezla PigDog, on Mar 23 2009, 10:40 AM, said:

Jesus, what's with the fucking character assassination?

There is no character assassination. Just replying with british stereotypes to your list of american stereotypes.

[Aptorian]

Just say no, Mezla.

[Mezla PigDog]

Obdigore, on Mar 23 2009, 11:46 AM, said:

Mezla PigDog, on Mar 23 2009, 10:40 AM, said:

Jesus, what's with the fucking character assassination?

There is no character assassination. Just replying with british stereotypes to your list of american stereotypes.

And calling me an elitist snob. It's not my fault if I'm better than you.

[Obdigore]

Mezla PigDog, on Mar 23 2009, 10:56 AM, said:

Obdigore, on Mar 23 2009, 11:46 AM, said:

Mezla PigDog, on Mar 23 2009, 10:40 AM, said:

Jesus, what's with the fucking character assassination?

There is no character assassination. Just replying with british stereotypes to your list of american stereotypes.

And calling me an elitist snob. It's not my fault if I'm better than you.

Ahh, and yet, I said if you were going to be, not that you were.

If only elitist snob's could read ;P

[RodeoRanch]

Everybody hug it out.

Any decent movies coming out in theaters in the month of April?


"Quantum of Solace" comes out on Blu-ray tomorrow. I'll have to pick it up.

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

Mezla PigDog, on Mar 23 2009, 08:40 AM, said:

Jesus, what's with the fucking character assassination?

No character assassination. You can hardly be surprised that when you say offensive things to people, sometimes it offends them. The snarky comment in this thread, on top of your thread in the Inn, leads me to believe that polite is not the first word that would come to mind to describe you. Sorry if you feel attacked by that.

On topic, I just watched What About Bob last night. Classic goofy Bill Murray.

[Wry]

Raymond Luxury Yacht, on Mar 23 2009, 04:33 PM, said:

Mezla PigDog, on Mar 23 2009, 08:40 AM, said:

Jesus, what's with the fucking character assassination?

No character assassination. You can hardly be surprised that when you say offensive things to people, sometimes it offends them. The snarky comment in this thread, on top of your thread in the Inn, leads me to believe that polite is not the first word that would come to mind to describe you. Sorry if you feel attacked by that.

On topic, I just watched What About Bob last night. Classic goofy Bill Murray.

Wow, that's a bit much.

I thought she was just expressing a commonly held belief. Most thinking people (on both sides of the atlantic) know that mainstream Hollywood films are always pitched at the "lowest common denominator" of American viewers, and they are looking for moraly unambiguous, thematically unsophisticated movies. they're the ones who need a grizzled veteran who never backs down to show misguided immigrant gangbangers that the best and only way to deal with a threat is force and aggression.

This movie is purposefully made that way, exploiting the cliché of "American" movies, so that it can upend everything in the last act. That concept wouldn't work if the cliche didn't hold a fair amount of truth. And couldn't be done if a fair amount of Americans didn't know and acknowledge this facet of their own culture.

That said it's Easy for us to say it's an american thing when all we have over here is relatively small movie industries that only allow arty indie flicks, and our mouthbreathers are going in droves to crappy movies just like yours.


And on topic: Watched Doubt last week really liked it. Amazing acting all round and i think the film really did a great job tacklng the issue without ever making a moral judgement. It's perfect, in the end all you're left with is doubt.