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more emurwgan:

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And before anyone says anything I know the code I used wasn't what he told me to use. I just hope he can figure it out, because it took ages, and it is near, and I wasn't sure if he knew about my night 1 bar. And it was the best I could do - okay??

Heavens above I can't believe I'm doing this for fun!

I am sure it will be fine

-ment

LOL, I'm okay really. I am only giving you this running commentary so that when I am carted off by the men in white coats, they will have an explanation as to why! And of course to entertain in SH...

But thanks for the reassurance

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amp45

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your attempt to kill Fener ended in a spectacular knife battle, during which you recognized each other's style as belonging to the Assamite clan.

Fener is a fellow Camarilla member. your Assault did not take away his BP, you share teh same winning condirtion, but you may not talk off thread

Okay, glad its out there, but I'm damned pissed at the way he's playing. Still, everyone thinks Cam can talk off thread, so perhaps if I get him lynched, or let him be lynched I can prove non Cam?

I May not have mentioned this, but he also knows who you are now,

Hmmm, so tact is key...At least he won't (read shouldn't) fuck me over unless I do it to myself.

yes, giving obdi a killer role's not always the greatest decision

but i trust random chance.

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6 new PMs, oh boy

Rashan

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Did he get his message? o.o

Emur?
yes.

Hmmmmmk... then I don't know anymore...

Not a good start to the night/day, and my head is killing me.
Loud bloody neighbours.
Nigh on 6 hours they've been hammering, sorry, I know I should stop feeling sorry for myself, but it makes concentration really hard .
1 act of kindness would be to put them out of my misery, but doubt whether I'll be so lucky - I will try to do another read and pick something up, but sleep might overtake me, - if they give me a break.

From that post, im confused as hell lol
NLN1
Wtf does that mean... for fucks sake why don't people do simple things.. -.-
Could be nlno but even that doesn't help me
He didn't put insane of find or success or fail in the post either.. fucking annoying
Im sick of playing already...

hmm, I have 0 clue, nor do i remember what the code was supposed to be.

Telas getting worried

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If they don't slack off a litle, I tried some misdirection, but didn't want to get too involved and get linked. Hell, if you reveal that Silanah is Sabbat. You won't be totally CIed, but should help. Also if you reveal we'll have to pray team town has a healer.

Korvalain

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Not really sure which of those I can answer and which I can't, so i'm only going to answer a couple that i'm fairly sure I can:

3a. Yes
3b. No
4. Just like a usual guard, they won't find anything out about the user, they will simply know that their action failed.

I'd still like an answer to:
2a. Do Rash and Emur each in turn know me and the other, or am I the only one to know who's in the cell?
2b. Will new recruits learn who is in the cell?

The rest I've got figured.

Oh and for SH, Rashan just posted:

Rashan, on Apr 17 2009, 07:14 PM, said:

I like the point on Liosan but im still a little confused as to who to lynch today. I was planning on voting for Shadow but since he is gone, I was thinking maybe Serc.. though this is based on something rather than the annoyance from Serc.

I'm thinking he's a finder and signalling to us in the cell that he found Serc last day and Serc's a Cam or Baali. Gotta try and work up an argument against Serc without seeming suspicious now...

All 3 of you know who the other 2 are
New recruits wil be told who you are, that's it

-ment

Lio and Telas.. why the hell doe Silencer respond above the quote?

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Well, Sil is helping me by not voting for me, yes, but if I need to reveal I can put the lynch on him (Sabbat). I'd concur with Ano - I'm not liking him, and think he may be evil.
As for find then silence, yes, that's the best plan for now - late-game it might need to change, though. I also think the Sabbat aren't worth silencing as much as the Baali, for example.

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I forgot to add that last pm to PS...would you mind forwarding it. And Silanah is on your side as are Emurlahn. Fener and Sil agree too much IMO, who do you want to put a provisional on? I am thinking Anomandaris or Mockra. Any suggestions? By the way do you agree do finds first, then do blocks?

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CC'ing a PM reply from Telas to you, Path-Shaper.

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I'm considering it. I'm thinking at 5/6 votes, or if I'm still getting heat when I go to sleep. Don't defend me. I don't want us to have more than a passing connection (and a passing one so that we don't get linked by disassociation). Don't vote for me, either!

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If they don't slack off a litle, I tried some misdirection, but didn't want to get too involved and get linked. Hell, if you reveal that Silanah is Sabbat. You won't be totally CIed, but should help. Also if you reveal we'll have to pray team town has a healer.

No way . No matter how much I want to. lol. Also, a small note: I slept 4 hours last night and might only get 4 tonight. I am on vacation, but fucking work called me in for an emergency water main bust. Long story but instead of super spammer, I've been trying to keep up. Fucking pisses me off!. Anyway, I am going to pass out if I can for a few. Good luck Silencer.

i thnk that has to be read middle-top-bottom

Amp's provisional

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Night probably won't end very soon, but in case it does while I sleep:

Kill Silanah

He seems too clever to leave around.

-ment

[Sixty]

Well, that'd certainly soften coming in and finding yourself dead.

[Path-Shaper]

lots of Liosan

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That was...fun. Damn, people are weird these days. Getting lynched on day one for no apparent reason last game was weirder, though.
This time I was actually on to defend myself, and the people who are around are so damn easy to convince (or appear to be), that it wasn't even funny. OK, it was funny, I admit. But still, it's weird. I'm glad Korvalain and Ampelas can see reason, though.

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Apologies to Kurt. But it WAS a pretty strong case for day one, and you didn't back down, so...

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Revealing and hoping for a healer anyway. I mean, it's true it might be a waste, but I don't want to die with the knowledge Silanah is a Sabbat and leave you to have to reveal that on your own - it would be a waste of us being paired.
And I'm getting paranoid about NK's now. >.>

that shouldn't be his prime concern--as of right now, he's scheduled to join Sabbat.

Shin has a question about invisibility, and then Gem

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Prepare to possess Ampelas.

Did JA send in provisional for next day (night) (that is so confusing!) ? If not, please sign him up for provisional to possess Korvalain. I have no idea if his NA worked, but just in case. Since I can't shift yet - he has to do it.

sigh, the FMs are adept at picking up scum..
also, would it be wrong of me to tell her JA's preparatio also failed?

[Sixty]

Well JA would communicate it anyway, right? So no harm done?

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JA said he might be away (he was flying to Canada from Finland today, I believe)

If it looks close to a lynch and he's not around, I will let her know
otherwise, I can only sympathise with how the FMs keep targetting scum.

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Telas to Liosan

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Revealing and hoping for a healer anyway. I mean, it's true it might be a waste, but I don't want to die with the knowledge Silanah is a Sabbat and leave you to have to reveal that on your own - it would be a waste of us being paired.
And I'm getting paranoid about NK's now. >.>

Your call, might be a good move. plus, I just threw out Galain not playing much as a deflection. We might want to swing the vote away from him, and then see how he reacts. It will also be interesting to see the different reactions, and with so little pressure you would be more believable. Just keep one thing in mind, You are lynchable. I think the scum might want to keep you around. Its our own team that we probably need to worry about. Also, We can check out Galain tonight if ou want, just for piece of mind....Tell you what, lets risk it, wait one more night and then we can incriminate one and either incriminate or CI another, you reveal that info and hope for the best. What do you think? Also, only one NK night one has not been discussed.....

and Liosan's response

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Yeah, I think it might be a safer bet to leave it a night. Galain, or Korlat. I don't like Korlat - placed vote on me, then ignores the discussion of it? Weird. But also not particularly incriminating at this stage, I suppose. I might bring up the one NK thing, but we all know it's either because of healers, one faction being a recruiting faction, and possibly some other stuff. Which will be what everybody posts.
If I get close again before I head off to sleep, however, I'll reveal. Otherwise it's tomorrow - if I'm still lynchable then, it's going to be getting pretty tenuous if I keep escaping. At the moment it might be a good enough reason to not NK me, though, you're right.

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Revealing and hoping for a healer anyway. I mean, it's true it might be a waste, but I don't want to die with the knowledge Silanah is a Sabbat and leave you to have to reveal that on your own - it would be a waste of us being paired.
And I'm getting paranoid about NK's now. >.>

Your call, might be a good move. plus, I just threw out Galain not playing much as a deflection. We might want to swing the vote away from him, and then see how he reacts. It will also be interesting to see the different reactions, and with so little pressure you would be more believable. Just keep one thing in mind, You are lynchable. I think the scum might want to keep you around. Its our own team that we probably need to worry about. Also, We can check out Galain tonight if ou want, just for piece of mind....Tell you what, lets risk it, wait one more night and then we can incriminate one and either incriminate or CI another, you reveal that info and hope for the best. What do you think? Also, only one NK night one has not been discussed.....

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ST's having difficulties, and he loses the scent

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Looking through, the only thing I can really tie to Ruse is that he started the train on Tellan. That and he's a low poster...but what he has posted has had some content in it. Going to be tough to steer onto him, especially seeing as we don't seem to have much timezone in common for interaction (or at least, I don't remember seeing him around the thread...)

I guess I'll see what's there when I wake up in the morning, might be something new to work on.

In the mean time, Korvalain is acting oddly (what with the vote/remove vote thing), which is either a vet trying to play the noob card, or Peanutbutta/Shinrei. I was tempted to put a provisional on him again, but decided that since I know nothing about Gamelon, I'd go for him instead. Provisional Find on Gamelon.


Sir Thursday

he should've gone for Barg, if that was his first suspicion.... ah well,

-ment

[Kurt Montandon]

For anyone who comes in here and says "Yeah, sorry, but you didn't defend yourself," I went to bed when there were two votes on me, and woke up to find I'd been lynched hours earlier.

But I'm not too disappointed - the weather's too damned nice, and I've got things to do, and everyone got the Day 1 lynch that's always so important. And given how drive-by certain people were, I'm hoping it'll provide useful information to my team.

Also, I still really look at this as more Merc/Cult than Town vs. Scum. Just calling a team "Town" doesn't make them Inno ...

[Sixty]

@Kurt: The other 3 factions are a cult, 2FM's, and traditional killers...all generally scum, and by elimination, the Anarchs are town. That's just my view of it all.

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Sixty, with some new PM's:

ST'riss:

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Ruse comes on this morning and makes a big deal out of Shadow's death etc. Makes me think that perhaps he's trying to encourage the FM theory as it is on the wrong track. But then Anomandaris comes on and essentially says the same thing. I could see them working together, so Provisional Find on Anomandaris.


Sir Thursday

Bentlas:

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Provisional on Ampelas

I really don't like the attack, being talked out of attack and now more recently acting all lovey dovey. If You would rather it was on Ano or anyone else, thats cool. But for now, that was the most scummy thing I have seen so far.

Gem Barghast:

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*sigh* I will never get why I get under people's skin so easily in mafia. I think I am being so reasonable and clear, but then people decide to jump on me. Do I carry a large invisible sign that says "I am an easy target" or what?

JARuse:

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Hey, my NA on Rashan failed:

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you recognised something about the blood of your victim that suggested to you oyu would not be able to impersonate him and remain unrecognized

I guess we know who we'll try to lynch...
How did your NA go? I'm hoping you can switch first.

Hmmm, I got the same PM


PS, did both our NA fail?

Well, that's not good. But we know who to lynch, at least. I sent a prov for Ampelas, so that's who I'm going for next.

If both our actions failed, it's a bit strange. I'm still waiting for confirmation on that.

It would mean that

1) we're fucking unlucky and found the minority we can't shift into
2) we can't shift into the majority of the players in which case consider this a middle finger, mods

So, if we both failed, so far it's Liosan and Korvalain, right? Aren't they going at each other on thread right now?

Not sure how to respond to his question about whether their NA's failed, so I'll leave it to you, Ment.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 18 April 2009 - 04:06 PM

[Sixty]

@Ment:
I have no clue how you can stand that forum skin. The banner is damn irritating.

[Path-Shaper]

umm, sorry
been away for a while

I'm at home, so's my dad, so it's long philosophizing about life time
will deal with this now.

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mockra

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You know, I am still catching up and I am seeing all this confusion and talk about the factions and so on. And I can't help but feel sorry for their poor attempts to decipher those messages. To me its cear as day!

But am I going to enlighten anyone?

FUCK NO!!!
Its far more fun this way

BTW I only ever played the 2002/2003 release with none of the extras. So I was wondering if you could help me out, this is what I know:

Cammarilla:
Brujah
Gangrel
Ventrue
Tremere
Toreador
Nosferatu
Malkavian

Sabbat:
Tzimisce
Lasombra


Independants:
Ravnos
Followers of Set
Giovanni
Assamites

Now I also know of the Baali, the True Brujah and another clan.
Where do they fit into the scheme of things.

Oh and being a Lasombra myself and knowing their weaknesses, I suspect my vote may not have counted! (Yes this is the paranoia talking)

lol
allinfo I had, I got from playing "bloodlines'
and Wiki.

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Emu:

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I'm caught now between the devil and the deep blue sea. I have a dreadful fear, given my role that my vote is the one that doesn't count. So do I vote or not??? If I vote I have to make sure I am in a train with plenty of cover from yesterday. So far, 4 of yesterdays' voters are on the Korlat train (and that is the one that seems the most sensible). If I don't jump on at all I don't know yet how big a pool I will be left in, but if I do jump on at the moment I still don't know how big a pool, and not voting at all is a big risk...but if I leave it too late??? Decisions, decisions.


These are my thoughts to myself - no answer expected btw.

if their vote didn't count, i'd tell them.. sigh

Gam

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I have decided I don't like Barghast.

I also dropped 'investigation' in my post after my little slugfest with Bargy, hopefully that makes someone think I'm finder.

good boy, tapper!

sigh, gotta go do some stuff round the house... back eventually.

-ment

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 19 April 2009 - 03:23 AM

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barg

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Man, I really don't like weekend mafia. So much time to get caught up in some stupid fight on thread. I need there to be more people online, so I have more string to pull.

Not sure if I should change prepare target. It would be nice to shift into Silanah, but that might be too obvious. Hmm, what else do we got. Gamelon or D'riss maybe. Hmmm.

Gamelon would be by far her best choice.

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Kurt Montandon, on Apr 18 2009, 02:28 AM, said:

For anyone who comes in here and says "Yeah, sorry, but you didn't defend yourself," I went to bed when there were two votes on me, and woke up to find I'd been lynched hours earlier.

But I'm not too disappointed - the weather's too damned nice, and I've got things to do, and everyone got the Day 1 lynch that's always so important. And given how drive-by certain people were, I'm hoping it'll provide useful information to my team.

Also, I still really look at this as more Merc/Cult than Town vs. Scum. Just calling a team "Town" doesn't make them Inno ...

they weren't just called town, there were also 16 of them
versus team of 2, team of 3, and another team of 2, each of which thought he was alone.

also, cult can be referred to as scum just the same as the regular killers.
I made it crystal clear several times before we started that I would put in multiple types of scum. not multiple teams (which could lent to interpretation of a game like Obdi's TMDI 2), but multiple types. and that's what we've got here.

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Ruse

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both of your actions have failed

Ruse failed to prepare Ruse
Barghast failed to prepare Rashan (not Liosan)

reason in both cases--something about their blood gave you a sense your disguise would not fool others.

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Hmm, strange that.

Anyways, for now prepare a shift into Gamelon then

hopefully, he'll have enough time to slip past D'riss
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both of your actions have failed

Ruse failed to prepare Ruse
Barghast failed to prepare Rashan (not Liosan)

reason in both cases--something about their blood gave you a sense your disguise would not fool others.

-ment

Hmm, strange that.

Anyways, for now prepare a shift into Gamelon then

Okay - right now I've got a prov for shifting into Ampelas - we should try to get Rashan and Korv (that was your target right) lynched.

Today will be hard, with Korlat melting down like this.

I started pressuring him to support Liosan's theory with Rashan and Korv, but I didn't expect he would collapse to lousily. "Burned out with the flow of the game" Puh-lease

Anyways, with some luck he's some kind of scum, so we can go for Korvalain tomorrow after the CF. Rashan, not sure, but who knows, maybe there's some inno finder or vig out there that will take care of him.

That's assuming we can't possess them because they're the other scum teams, that's not guaranteed. Not to the point of sticking out our neck too far out to get them.

hmm, the FMs got the Sabbat's number.. except for Emu, and it's crucial she stays down if shit hits the fan.

from a concerned Mockra

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So a um... very belated question, but when did the Weekend freeze change from clock freeze to only modkill timer freeze?

i honestly don't remember who instituted it, but the trend got stuck in.

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JA has a screwy plan... I love it

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Yeah, of course we'll go for Korlat now, I was just thinking for the coming days, we need to think how to get rid of them, because they might get really dangerous later on. We can poke them gently with sticks until they make a mistake.
But we'll see what happens and use the situations as they come.

Well, if you want to have fun tomorrow:

If the soul-shifting preparation works tonight, reveal finder and Korvy some kind of scum.

He'll probably get lynched, you don't care about his CF, just shift the night after. If he's scum they'll even thank you for sacrificing yourself after you "die" that nigh

If your preparation fails, I'm thinking of doing it.

and Meanas is way off...

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hmmm. I'm really tempted to leave my heal off again, there's still noone I can say is definitely an anarch. Ruse seems to be making sense though, so heal him.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 18 April 2009 - 09:40 PM

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Doesn't ST know Ruse is Baali though?
So it may work for Barg, but not so likely for Ruse...