[Fener]

Serc, on Apr 20 2009, 08:49 AM, said:

So your saying that you found a scum on your first find which you only used on night 3. Any particular reason you haven't done any finds on people before now.

He claimed to have 'limited' finds.

Which seems odd.

[Fener]

Well that is good news.

That is 2 Sabbats so far!

[Anomandaris]

Just reading up over the last page. So we lynched Kovalain and he a scum. But he's not Baali so we presume not a FM. But Barghast said he turned up as Camarilla, and he's a Sabbat. So what the hell is going on??

[Serc]

I am wondering if by chance we have another scum finder and he found not his own scum and decided to get us to lynch him. Either that or he isn't a finder and was talking bullshit. If he was a true finder then he would have known that Korv was sabbat and not Camarilla. Right now I have Barghast and Amp at the top of my suspect list.

[Serc]

Barghast, on Apr 20 2009, 09:15 AM, said:

What the hell?!!

He must have been changed last day, find are resolved before possess and recruits after all.

So a Camilla swaped with a Sabbat. Talk about jumping into a sinking ship. We will see what the end of day brings. I personally don't buy Amp's story at all.

[Anomandaris]

Not sure I believe Barghast either. Korvalain was under pressure, why would they be recruited by Sabbat? Hard to complain about results though..

[Omtose]

Thats a valid point, korv has been under pressure since day 2 and now he got recruited?

Doesnt wash

[Anomandaris]

This whole game has gone weird on me with all these reveals, FM's, finds etc.

So Omtose, what are your thought on say the FM/s? Any ideas

[Omtose]

I can see ment putting one in...not two though.

But that doesnt mean there DEFINITELY is one...so i reckon all we can do is keep looking for scummy play and look out for someone that has changed his stripes.

[Omtose]

I have to go...back in 16 hours.

[Serc]

I don't see mental putting in 2 Fm's either. When I am in doubt I go with lynching people who have lied. Right now Amp is tops then Barghast. I am leaning toward Amp as IF Barghast is a finder then I don't want to get rid of him right away. However since his find didn't totally pan out he is a very high suspect.

[Fener]

Anomandaris, on Apr 20 2009, 09:10 AM, said:

Just reading up over the last page. So we lynched Kovalain and he a scum. But he's not Baali so we presume not a FM. But Barghast said he turned up as Camarilla, and he's a Sabbat. So what the hell is going on??

I just went back, and he did say Korv was going to be Carmarilla.

That is really wierd.

[Galain]

So right now we have Barg who guessed the wrong faction for Korv and Amp who claims to have accidently vigged someone. We got any guesses how many scum we may be looking for right now?

[Fener]

Galain, on Apr 20 2009, 10:40 AM, said:

So right now we have Barg who guessed the wrong faction for Korv and Amp who claims to have accidently vigged someone. We got any guesses how many scum we may be looking for right now?

I'm looking at you, so I guess I am only looking at one right now.

[Anomandaris]

Serc, on Apr 20 2009, 11:29 AM, said:

I don't see mental putting in 2 Fm's either. When I am in doubt I go with lynching people who have lied. Right now Amp is tops then Barghast. I am leaning toward Amp as IF Barghast is a finder then I don't want to get rid of him right away. However since his find didn't totally pan out he is a very high suspect.

I think we are still waiting to hear from Rashan about Amp lying or not. He's sending a message to the Mod if he gets the same info as Ampelas.

But I don't like how Ampelas story changed from Killing D'riss, to Killing Korv but failing.

And then Barghast find on Korv as well... Hmmmm...


As for numbers left, I think 1-3 Sabbat was said before, so lets take one from that. 0-2 Sabbat left. 2 Baali are definite according to the OP. Cam is anyones guess. Its hard to tell how many kills they are getting and how many are possible FMs as well.

[Path-Shaper]

still waiting on some actins... resolution in an hour, max.
-ment

[Serc]

Ok I am going through and underlining the suspicious posts from both Ampelas and Barghast for the last night/day.

Ampelas, on Apr 19 2009, 08:26 PM, said:

Hmph...seems I missed the lynch. Just in case the no voter is one there though,

vote Telas

I honestly think we've made the right choice, however I will confirm that there is an FM in the game. I'm an Anarch training to be a assassin. My powers are one shot day/night vig and possession protection. When I asked what possession protection meant, I was told FM BP.

Starts off revealing that he is a vig with a Possession BP and a day or night vig.

Ampelas, on Apr 19 2009, 08:58 PM, said:

Rashan, on Apr 19 2009, 09:54 PM, said:

Ampelas, on Apr 20 2009, 01:52 AM, said:

Korvalain, on Apr 19 2009, 09:50 PM, said:

Ampelas, on Apr 19 2009, 09:48 PM, said:

I wasn't here all day long, and frankly I'll do whatever I want with my vig. I'm willing to take direction if people think there's a better option, but I revealed to give the Anarchs a leg up in terms of knowledge and figured I might as well use my vig tonight, just in case I die. Besides, after its gone, I becume little better than RI anyways. The reason I didn't vig Telas is that it isn't that sort of vig. Its a day vig, ie I can only use it during this 4 hour period.

Yes, killing another Anarch will really help that cause!

Do you have any reasonable suggestions, preferably backed up by evidence to direct me to another target?

Well I suggest Barghast but I also suggest someone guards you and you don't use it at all.. seems stupid to put that out in the open, you could have done it and not said anything.

I've already been targeted for possession once. Next time it could be a kill. I'd like to live up to my potential before I pin my life on a guard that may or may not be on in the next 4 hours. Now, would you mind reminding me why you don't like Barghast? Other than him being fucking annoying...

Now he changes his vig to only day before it was day/night. Also says that his BP has been used up. Now even if you had lost your BP why would you go and say it.

Ampelas, on Apr 19 2009, 09:08 PM, said:

Rashan, on Apr 19 2009, 10:03 PM, said:

Ampelas, on Apr 20 2009, 02:01 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on Apr 19 2009, 09:59 PM, said:

The day was short.

at least it seemed short.
or maybe you just managed to sleep through whatever sheneanigans were going on while the Sun strived to find its way into the dark hall.

anyhow, you awaken to find that 2 more bodies are missing.

D'riss, Sir Thursday is dead, he was an Anarch
Ruse (Tapper) is dead, he was an Anarch

it is night 4, 32 hours left

it is Night 3, a bit over 8 hours left

15 people still alive Ampelas, Anomandaris Barghast, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Korlat, Korvalain, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Rashan, Serc, Tennes

takes 8 votes to lynch or 7 to go to day

no one has voted.

WTF! I CHANGED THAT PROVISIONAL! Now I look like a fucking liar...

What? You targeted someone else first?...

After last day I put in a provisional upon learning I'd been targeted. It was on D'riss. I don't remember why, but I changed it after reading the thread today. I don't get why it was missed. Either way,

vote Barghast

And now the movie is over and I must go sleep. Goodnight.

Ampelas, on Apr 20 2009, 05:46 AM, said:

I'm sorry mods for my ranting last night. I recieved a Path Shaping this morning informing me that my kill went through on Korvalain. Care to explain what you're doing here Korv?

remove vote
vote Korvalain

So I gather that we are suppose to believe that he really did change his order from D'riss who died to Korv who he said that he targeted. While it is plausable and if that was the only discrepancy then I might be inclined to believe him.

Rashan, on Apr 20 2009, 06:02 AM, said:

Ok well I think its safe to say this now.. though it is kind of forced..
I too have a possess bp and when I asked PS about the whole possess thing, I didn't get a response.
Im calling Amp on it being bullshit, a mod would never say it was a FM BP, ment of course wouldn't.. why would he give someone that sort of information.
I do not believe there to be a FM and I believe Barg to be either Baali or Cam.
I didn't want to reveal that I have this bp, I was hoping to be targetted but I need to call someone on their bullshit.
Unless PS now tells me the same information you claim to be given, IGMEOY

Now if Rashan confirms the whole Possession BP then Amp will have only been lying about how many vigs he has and perhaps who he really targeted. Still leaves a lot that Amp has lied about.

Barghast, on Apr 20 2009, 07:59 AM, said:

It's time to come clean, I think.

I have limited finds and I have a bp.
Last day I did a find on Korvalain, since he was suspected of being fm. Result was Camarilla, which means he can't be the old Silanah. But since scum is scum I still voted for him hoping to get him lynched without having to reveal. Now that Ampelas says Korv is BP, and can't be FM since Ampelas was attacked the same day Korv would have switched, I thought it was wise to reveal.
Seems like we caught a scum by chance.

Sixty, on Apr 20 2009, 08:50 AM, said:

it is Night 4, about 19ish hours left

15 people still alive Ampelas, Anomandaris Barghast, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Korlat, Korvalain, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Rashan, Serc, Tennes

takes 8 votes to lynch or 7 to go to day

2 votes for Barghast (Rashan, Emurlahn,)
8 votes for Korvalain (Barghast, Anomandaris, Gamelon, Ampelas, HP, Fener, Omtose, Serc)

not voted: everyone else.

Lemme check if that's a lynch.

edit: Korvalain (D'rek) was lynched, he was Sabbat.

It is now night, you have 4 hours to submit your night actions.
I won't be around, but hopefully ment will be up by then to resolve.

Barghast's lie.

So that is the evidence so far.

[Anomandaris]

I'd like to hear from Rashan before making any comments about Ampelas. I think the day/night thing is due to the confusion of what is now called Day is a normal games night etc.

The Cam -> Sabbat thing really gets me though. Korv was a terrible target for recruitment if your a Sabbat.
Why would you recruit the next possible lynch?

I hate it when things don't add up like this. Its getting time for a reread.

One thing that has slipped my mind but should be brought up. Fener and his weird being forced to speak every third word a noun or whatever. A once off? WTF was up with that.

[Fener]

I was told I was 'temporarily insane' and needed to make every third word in every post I posted that night be a noun related to SoT.