[Gamelon]

I can't believe Ampelas vigged D'riss. That whole "darn, modsies missed my change of prov" fucking stinks. At what point did he put a prov on D'riss? When was D'riss ever scummy number 1 yesterday? When he sniffed out your FM buddy?

Still, assuming you're honest Ampelas, when did you lose your "possession BP"? If it's the same night as Korvalain shifted, either we're wrong or there's two FMs

[Gamelon]

Also, I agree that the double loss of Ruse and D'riss (even if the last one might be a "honest mistake") really took the pressure off Korvalain today. Specially coupled with Rashan's early attack on Barghast, he's really pushing it.

If we are right about Korvalain being FM, this night might be the last change we have before he moves again. The case is quite good. I don't know if it's completely true, but since it was made by a town, we know it was made in good faith.


vote Korvalain

[Ampelas]

I'm sorry mods for my ranting last night. I recieved a Path Shaping this morning informing me that my kill went through on Korvalain. Care to explain what you're doing here Korv?

remove vote
vote Korvalain

[Ampelas]

Gamelon, on Apr 20 2009, 06:26 AM, said:

I can't believe Ampelas vigged D'riss. That whole "darn, modsies missed my change of prov" fucking stinks. At what point did he put a prov on D'riss? When was D'riss ever scummy number 1 yesterday? When he sniffed out your FM buddy?

Still, assuming you're honest Ampelas, when did you lose your "possession BP"? If it's the same night as Korvalain shifted, either we're wrong or there's two FMs

I never said I lost it. I said I was attacked. Are you hoping I've lost it? So your possession will go through tonight!!!! No, I'm just kidding I have absolutely no evidence you're FM, but I still have the protection. I just don't have kills. But yes, I was attacked the same night Korv shifted.

[Gamelon]

Well, that's interesting.

[Rashan]

Ok well I think its safe to say this now.. though it is kind of forced..
I too have a possess bp and when I asked PS about the whole possess thing, I didn't get a response.
Im calling Amp on it being bullshit, a mod would never say it was a FM BP, ment of course wouldn't.. why would he give someone that sort of information.
I do not believe there to be a FM and I believe Barg to be either Baali or Cam.
I didn't want to reveal that I have this bp, I was hoping to be targetted but I need to call someone on their bullshit.
Unless PS now tells me the same information you claim to be given, IGMEOY

[Ampelas]

Sorry Rash, but whether it was ment inside or not I was told anti-FM BP. Anyways, off to work now, see you as soon as I can.

[Rashan]

Well I got no pm back so I don't believe it
If it was a dead player that revealed information, that is a problem
I would at least like a message from PS that tells me the same thing if I ask the question, If I don't get the response, you are either lying or got an unfair insight into the game

[Omtose]

So your kill on korv was blocked?

...this proves only that he had a bp...much like you ourself claim to have Ampelas?

I doubt a fm would have a bp...would he?

[Rashan]

Omtose, on Apr 20 2009, 11:06 AM, said:

So your kill on korv was blocked?

...this proves only that he had a bp...much like you ourself claim to have Ampelas?

I doubt a fm would have a bp...would he?

I do seriously doubt a FM would have a bp but I do not believe there to be a FM in this game.
Didn't Amp claim that he was targetted for possession already?

Ampelas, on Apr 20 2009, 01:58 AM, said:

I've already been targeted for possession once. Next time it could be a kill. I'd like to live up to my potential before I pin my life on a guard that may or may not be on in the next 4 hours. Now, would you mind reminding me why you don't like Barghast? Other than him being fucking annoying...

He claims this on day 3.. and we assume that it took 2 nights for the FM to jump. That means that there would have had to be 3 targets in 2 nights and I very seriously doubt that there are 2 FM. The whole idea of a FM seems useless and have we even looked into the whole resurrection thing?

Edit: day 3 i mean.. thats getting annoying lol

This post has been edited by Rashan: 20 April 2009 - 11:12 AM

[Omtose]

Looks like amps claim is getting more and more flimsy

[Gamelon]

Rashan, on Apr 20 2009, 04:02 AM, said:

Ok well I think its safe to say this now.. though it is kind of forced..
I too have a possess bp and when I asked PS about the whole possess thing, I didn't get a response.
Im calling Amp on it being bullshit, a mod would never say it was a FM BP, ment of course wouldn't.. why would he give someone that sort of information.
I do not believe there to be a FM and I believe Barg to be either Baali or Cam.
I didn't want to reveal that I have this bp, I was hoping to be targetted but I need to call someone on their bullshit.
Unless PS now tells me the same information you claim to be given, IGMEOY

You have a possess BP and you don't believe to be FM? What are you afraid of, Lucifer?

If Korvalain is BP, I doubt he's FM. Specially since Ampelas claims he was "tried" the same night Korvalain would have needed to be possessed for the story to make sense.

Something is iffy with Ampelas' claim or his reaction (the vote on Korvalain).

[Rashan]

Gamelon, on Apr 20 2009, 11:16 AM, said:

Rashan, on Apr 20 2009, 04:02 AM, said:

Ok well I think its safe to say this now.. though it is kind of forced..
I too have a possess bp and when I asked PS about the whole possess thing, I didn't get a response.
Im calling Amp on it being bullshit, a mod would never say it was a FM BP, ment of course wouldn't.. why would he give someone that sort of information.
I do not believe there to be a FM and I believe Barg to be either Baali or Cam.
I didn't want to reveal that I have this bp, I was hoping to be targetted but I need to call someone on their bullshit.
Unless PS now tells me the same information you claim to be given, IGMEOY

You have a possess BP and you don't believe to be FM? What are you afraid of, Lucifer?

If Korvalain is BP, I doubt he's FM. Specially since Ampelas claims he was "tried" the same night Korvalain would have needed to be possessed for the story to make sense.

Something is iffy with Ampelas' claim or his reaction (the vote on Korvalain).

I have a possess bp but for all we know, ment could have just made it so recruiting is possessing and there are no recruiters. Or Telas telling us of the town recruiting is actually recruiting. The rules state not all of the actions may or may not be in the game

[Omtose]

I think rashan is firstly saying his is possess bp and Amp's claim is more specific in being FM in particular.
And also the mods arent replying with regards to his query on his possess bp, yet amp says he queried and got a response?

so it is fishy

[Gamelon]

Rashan, on Apr 20 2009, 04:19 AM, said:

I have a possess bp but for all we know, ment could have just made it so recruiting is possessing and there are no recruiters. Or Telas telling us of the town recruiting is actually recruiting. The rules state not all of the actions may or may not be in the game

The OP mentions both "Recruit" and "Possess", so I doubt they mean the thing.

And I agree that not everything in the OP will be in the game, but I hope that doesn't apply to role PMs. Anyways.

[Rashan]

Gamelon, on Apr 20 2009, 11:23 AM, said:

Rashan, on Apr 20 2009, 04:19 AM, said:

I have a possess bp but for all we know, ment could have just made it so recruiting is possessing and there are no recruiters. Or Telas telling us of the town recruiting is actually recruiting. The rules state not all of the actions may or may not be in the game

The OP mentions both "Recruit" and "Possess", so I doubt they mean the thing.

And I agree that not everything in the OP will be in the game, but I hope that doesn't apply to role PMs. Anyways.

Im saying that maybe town can recruit and scum can possess which is just umm.. you know.. like casting a spell, not taking over the body and leaving an old one...
That way, town converts people who might be nk'd and the people we thought were scum all day, turn out inno. Then there is scum recruiting after nks and taken into consideration.
We still don't know what ressurection is... I need to think about this some more..

[Anomandaris]

Rashan, why don't you ask the mods about it and see what they say? Maybe Ment and Grief are giving different info, or they missed it or something?
I think it would be nice to get it cleared up. I'm convinced there is a FM to be honest. 2 in fact.

[Rashan]

Anomandaris, on Apr 20 2009, 11:36 AM, said:

Rashan, why don't you ask the mods about it and see what they say? Maybe Ment and Grief are giving different info, or they missed it or something?
I think it would be nice to get it cleared up. I'm convinced there is a FM to be honest. 2 in fact.

You think that there are 2? Who do you think the other is then... I really doubt there to be 2 fm in a game
I sent another pm but nobody seems online and im going offline soon -.-

[Anomandaris]

Rashan, on Apr 20 2009, 07:38 AM, said:

Anomandaris, on Apr 20 2009, 11:36 AM, said:

Rashan, why don't you ask the mods about it and see what they say? Maybe Ment and Grief are giving different info, or they missed it or something?
I think it would be nice to get it cleared up. I'm convinced there is a FM to be honest. 2 in fact.

You think that there are 2? Who do you think the other is then... I really doubt there to be 2 fm in a game
I sent another pm but nobody seems online and im going offline soon -.-

Yes, the OP states 2 Baali. You and Ampelas both have anti possesion things. There's a line in the letter in the OP saying they can look like any one of us etc. I'm convinced FM are around, they're obviously the Baali so I have to conclude worst case, 2 FM.

Path-shaper is posting now, so ask him, want to get this cleared up.

[Omtose]

2 FM's would be excessive.
Maybe one with a symp...but not 2 independent fm's running amok...with a cult and killers to boot?

I do think there is defonately the possibility of there being a FM however