George Martin addresses his detractors I think he might mean some of us
#41
Posted 22 February 2009 - 12:24 AM
I bet I could eat 100 bacon George Martins.
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#42
Posted 22 February 2009 - 12:55 AM
I think everyone just needs to take a step back and take a look at things. GRRM is a good author, He wrote three fantastic fantasy novels, and on mediocre one. But to be completely honest, the amount of other authors out there that are as good, or you can read instead of waiting for him to finish is staggering.
The way my collection is going at the moment, even if he released the book next year, I still wouldn't get to read it for a couple of months because of all the other things I have.
Let the guy finish his book. And in the meantime get to know all the other great writers out there.
The way my collection is going at the moment, even if he released the book next year, I still wouldn't get to read it for a couple of months because of all the other things I have.
Let the guy finish his book. And in the meantime get to know all the other great writers out there.
This post has been edited by Trouble: 22 February 2009 - 12:56 AM
#43
Posted 22 February 2009 - 01:38 AM
I like GRRM's books, and would definitly list him as one of the best out there within the genre. Nevertheless, I've reached a point where I just can't muster much enthusiasm for the next book. Sure, I'll buy it at one point (though definitly not until it comes out as a mmpb), but I don't really care much. I don't think he deserves the amount of critizism he deserves for spending the time he does on the book, but I do understand how it frustrates people. Especially because I worked in a book store for so long and met a lot of people enquiering about the book and getting a new release date every time. If the author said he was pretty much done with a book you're walking in circles in anticipation of reading, years of postponement while you see the auhtors name on numerous litterary works on the new release shelf makes anyone feel a bit anoyed..
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#44
Posted 22 February 2009 - 02:18 AM
hmm
I was sorta fortunate that i got into ASOIAF rigth around the time AFFC came out. and I bought it within a a few weeks of seeing it was out (right after my exams in first year uni)
I used to be hyped and waited and wanted ADWD to come out and I used to get annoyed with it, though ti don't think i've ever made comment as bad as some. After a while, it went away. I haven't read any of the spoiler chapters, save for the one in AFFC, and i don't intend to till it comes out, b/c the book doesn't take that long to read anyhow, and if I know a quarter of it from spoilers, it'lltake even less.
I'll probably buy it when it comes out, but if it doesn't meet the standards set by the first 3, oh well. there's lots of other great stuff to read out there.
I was sorta fortunate that i got into ASOIAF rigth around the time AFFC came out. and I bought it within a a few weeks of seeing it was out (right after my exams in first year uni)
I used to be hyped and waited and wanted ADWD to come out and I used to get annoyed with it, though ti don't think i've ever made comment as bad as some. After a while, it went away. I haven't read any of the spoiler chapters, save for the one in AFFC, and i don't intend to till it comes out, b/c the book doesn't take that long to read anyhow, and if I know a quarter of it from spoilers, it'lltake even less.
I'll probably buy it when it comes out, but if it doesn't meet the standards set by the first 3, oh well. there's lots of other great stuff to read out there.
#45
Posted 22 February 2009 - 10:14 AM
I read the first three wwwaaaaaaayyy back when they first came out, i think i got all three in first ed hardbacks, but after finishing the first 2, i found that i didn't really enjoy the series that much, read the third cos it completed the set and that was it for me, will probably never read AFF or DWD when it's released. But want i would say is there is a hell of a lot of crap about GRRM on a lot of boards i visit. I do think that theres been a lot of jumping on the band wagon where the latest release is concerned and i would say to GRRM, forget it, it's your life, enjoy it, don't be held ransom by what others think of you
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#46
Posted 22 February 2009 - 06:53 PM
Morgoth, on Feb 21 2009, 04:14 PM, said:
Yes. Yes I am. There should be more Bill Hicks quoting on the forum.
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#47
Posted 22 February 2009 - 10:58 PM
It's almost interesting, the amount of angry reactions GRRM gets because he doesn't write his book in the time he promised. I guess writing is a creative proces and hurrying doesn't do any good. If i was a writer, i would stop writing if i got so many agressive e-mails all the time.
#48
Posted 22 February 2009 - 11:00 PM
Lesson #1, don't give e-mail out to public.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
#51
Posted 23 February 2009 - 02:58 AM
Ive read all four and I honestly dont even remember what happens anymore other then a few vague details. I dont care when he finishes anymore either, i just dont plan to read any more until he finishes the entire series....if he does.
BTW Avatar love the quote from fight club.
BTW Avatar love the quote from fight club.
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#52
Posted 23 February 2009 - 05:03 AM
Lesson #4: don't spend an entire book developing a new plot arc and then abandon it entirely for the next book because you don't like jumping back and forward.
#53
Posted 23 February 2009 - 05:04 AM
Abyss, on Feb 20 2009, 09:56 AM, said:
- Abyss, because romance is better with gunfights in it...
And that's why you watch "Shoot 'em Up".
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#54
Posted 23 February 2009 - 05:12 AM
Lesson #5: For every action, there is an equal and opposite lesbian arc involving Daeneryis.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
#55
Posted 23 February 2009 - 06:45 AM
Lesson 6: Mmmmhh, incestious relationships...
#56
Posted 23 February 2009 - 07:06 AM
Lesson #7: Dwarfs secretly run the world.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
#57
Posted 23 February 2009 - 09:01 AM
Slow Ben, on Feb 21 2009, 12:39 AM, said:
I dont think people would be making such a big deal out of this if he hadnt put in the back cover of AFFC that ADWD would be out about next year. so people expected it soon. If he'd have just said nothing about when its coming out we'd still be waiting impatiently, but without so much venom.
The back of my copy of Battlefield Earth by L Ron Hubbard (yes, I didn't mind it as cheesy scifi) proudly stated :COMING SOON AS A MAJOR MOTION PICTURE!
Trust me, if you haven't seen it, the wait WASN'T worth it.
By the way, I bought and read it in 1986. Good thing I didn't hold my breath, eh?
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#58
Posted 23 February 2009 - 09:10 AM
Well, we are all at the mercy of George, so I don't mind anything around here that is humorously taking my mind off of that fact.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
#59
#60
Posted 23 February 2009 - 05:10 PM
I find people complaining about waiting for Dance of Dragons amusing.
Stephen Kings Dark Tower series took 20+ years to be finished. With generally 4-5 years between books. (except for the last 3)
Now that was an ordeal.
Read something else in the meantime. Have more hobbies.
Stephen Kings Dark Tower series took 20+ years to be finished. With generally 4-5 years between books. (except for the last 3)
Now that was an ordeal.
Read something else in the meantime. Have more hobbies.