MAFIA 39.5 - Pirates vs. Ninjas
#1941
Posted 21 February 2009 - 11:24 AM
sure isnt fener protecting us all???
have to say that was a second late swing to a random who wasnt there.
have to say that was a second late swing to a random who wasnt there.
#1942
Posted 21 February 2009 - 11:37 AM
Damnit I need to sleep but I want to see the outcome of night first O___o
#1945
Posted 21 February 2009 - 11:43 AM
Whoops, I was looking at ps's night post, not the hammer. So you're right.
Sorry.
Sorry.
#1947
Posted 21 February 2009 - 11:45 AM
Noone Died
It is Day 2.
You have 36 hours left
14 people are still alive: Hood's Path, Galain, Galayn Lord, Fener, Serc, Omtose, Anomandaris, Telas, D'riss, Tennes, Korlat, Silanah, Emurlahn, Kessobahn,
8 votes to lynch
Its is Day 3 (i think)
It is Day 2.
You have 36 hours left
14 people are still alive: Hood's Path, Galain, Galayn Lord, Fener, Serc, Omtose, Anomandaris, Telas, D'riss, Tennes, Korlat, Silanah, Emurlahn, Kessobahn,
8 votes to lynch
Its is Day 3 (i think)
This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 21 February 2009 - 11:46 AM
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
#1948
Posted 21 February 2009 - 11:47 AM
well fener told the truth, or he is the ninja 
vote galayn lord
two derailed trains. thats my case.
going to go do something with my saturday afternoon.

vote galayn lord
two derailed trains. thats my case.
going to go do something with my saturday afternoon.
#1949
Posted 21 February 2009 - 11:47 AM
#1950
Posted 21 February 2009 - 11:50 AM
Galain, on Feb 21 2009, 12:47 PM, said:
well fener told the truth, or he is the ninja
vote galayn lord
two derailed trains. thats my case.
going to go do something with my saturday afternoon.

vote galayn lord
two derailed trains. thats my case.
going to go do something with my saturday afternoon.
Are you for real? It's not my fault that people make lousy cases that doesn't hold water. All I've done is defend myself and point to better choices. NOT. MY. FAULT.
#1951
Posted 21 February 2009 - 11:50 AM
Well im off to sleep then 
Fener is still a PI in my opinion considering i think the ninjas decide on someone to kill so they all need to agree. But we can assume he is a pirate for now.

Fener is still a PI in my opinion considering i think the ninjas decide on someone to kill so they all need to agree. But we can assume he is a pirate for now.
#1952
Posted 21 February 2009 - 11:54 AM
#1953
Posted 21 February 2009 - 11:57 AM
Galain, on Feb 21 2009, 11:47 AM, said:
well fener told the truth, or he is the ninja
vote galayn lord
two derailed trains. thats my case.
going to go do something with my saturday afternoon.

vote galayn lord
two derailed trains. thats my case.
going to go do something with my saturday afternoon.
I'm contradiciting what I said yesterday, but i've slept on this and come to think that it doesn't make GL particularly likely to be guilty.
Speaking as someone who was voting for GL for much of day 2, I can't say i'm too happy about the case. The initial case on him was weak. The day 2 case was only marginally better. It's no great surprise that people weren't too impressed with either case.
Look at it from GL's point of view. Someone makes a weak case on him. He doesn't get lynched because the case was poor. So this is used against him the next day, which is almost as weak. So he gets out of it. And him not getting lynched is used against him again. How frustrating that must be. Do we expect that everyone with a lynch train on them should get lynched, else they're a ninja? By that logic, everyone who does get lynched is a pirate. Which suggests we've got no hope. Which is rubbish, because we can still win this despite the spam and the vig kills.
#1954
Posted 21 February 2009 - 11:59 AM
Tennes, on Feb 21 2009, 12:57 PM, said:
Galain, on Feb 21 2009, 11:47 AM, said:
well fener told the truth, or he is the ninja
vote galayn lord
two derailed trains. thats my case.
going to go do something with my saturday afternoon.

vote galayn lord
two derailed trains. thats my case.
going to go do something with my saturday afternoon.
I'm contradiciting what I said yesterday, but i've slept on this and come to think that it doesn't make GL particularly likely to be guilty.
Speaking as someone who was voting for GL for much of day 2, I can't say i'm too happy about the case. The initial case on him was weak. The day 2 case was only marginally better. It's no great surprise that people weren't too impressed with either case.
Look at it from GL's point of view. Someone makes a weak case on him. He doesn't get lynched because the case was poor. So this is used against him the next day, which is almost as weak. So he gets out of it. And him not getting lynched is used against him again. How frustrating that must be. Do we expect that everyone with a lynch train on them should get lynched, else they're a ninja? By that logic, everyone who does get lynched is a pirate. Which suggests we've got no hope. Which is rubbish, because we can still win this despite the spam and the vig kills.
^^ What he said.

#1955
Posted 21 February 2009 - 12:03 PM
I want to look at Telas, but he has has 272 posts, which is a nightmare to wade through. Can anyone point me to anything original he's said? Clearly he's had the time.
Be back in a few hours.
Be back in a few hours.
#1956
Posted 21 February 2009 - 12:05 PM
I'm off too. Not sure when I will be on next, in a couple of hours maybe.
#1957
Posted 21 February 2009 - 01:09 PM
ey mon. Looks like were all in one piece. I am na going to be around much today, but I tink I may have ta do a re-read. Not right now, but sometime today. Also want ta point out, that after my continued efforts yesterday, I tink I may have tunnel vision. Hopefully someone can come up wit a case.
#1958
Posted 21 February 2009 - 01:10 PM
Well, i'm here.
Couple of things i did at a time no one else was doing them.
Looking at omtose for example, which i'd still like to do.
Pointing out that both GL trains had dissapeared near the lynch. Interestingly, both times, Silanah was involved, iirc. He pushed GL during the day, then leaves onto another train, which quickly picks up steam.
I also pointed out that you'd contributed very little at all, that I can see. In fact, i'd almost forgotten you were playing. So, whats original that you've said, out of interest?
Couple of things i did at a time no one else was doing them.
Looking at omtose for example, which i'd still like to do.
Pointing out that both GL trains had dissapeared near the lynch. Interestingly, both times, Silanah was involved, iirc. He pushed GL during the day, then leaves onto another train, which quickly picks up steam.
I also pointed out that you'd contributed very little at all, that I can see. In fact, i'd almost forgotten you were playing. So, whats original that you've said, out of interest?
#1959
Posted 21 February 2009 - 01:29 PM
This is my case on Tennes. Suppose it may look OMGUS, but if you remember I voiced concerns about him last night too, before he voiced his concerns about me this morning.
Did you just suggest that a ninja vig killed another ninja? Assuming that they know each other, that's daft.
I'm happy to lynch Fener today. I didn't like the people using their kills yesterday and I don't today. We could find ourselves losing this game very quickly. If you have a lynch train going, you can analyse voting patterns and look for inconsistencies or defences of others. But if everyone's just vig killing, we don't get any info apart from a possible (?) cf. It's almost completely random.
We're losing lynches and therefore losing information.
He's happy to lynch Fener. Then some standard stuff about lynch trains=information etc.
Blindly agrees with Korlat here.
He's happy lynching GL.
Ofc he's happy lynching GL. His votes there isn't it. That vote which he cast at the time for such great reasons.
Votes Rashan in the end, to get a lynch/no contribution.
I did essentially the same thing, so can't really attack his reasons for voting Rashan. Except there is one difference. I didn't like the other major train going, namely, Galayn Lord. Which he did.
Oh yeah, you're right. Still, they were within a minute of each other with massive crossposting all over the thread. I can buy it as a crosspost.
This worries me too. If Rashan comes back and starts making sense, I wouldn't mind lynching Galayn at all, but I won't be here to do so.
I'm going to bed and leaving my vote where it is.
Thinks GL cross-post hammered, which is fair enough.
Agrees with me. Still wouldn't mind lynching GL.
I'm contradiciting what I said yesterday, but i've slept on this and come to think that it doesn't make GL particularly likely to be guilty.
Speaking as someone who was voting for GL for much of day 2, I can't say i'm too happy about the case. The initial case on him was weak. The day 2 case was only marginally better. It's no great surprise that people weren't too impressed with either case.
Look at it from GL's point of view. Someone makes a weak case on him. He doesn't get lynched because the case was poor. So this is used against him the next day, which is almost as weak. So he gets out of it. And him not getting lynched is used against him again. How frustrating that must be. Do we expect that everyone with a lynch train on them should get lynched, else they're a ninja? By that logic, everyone who does get lynched is a pirate. Which suggests we've got no hope. Which is rubbish, because we can still win this despite the spam and the vig kills.
He voted GL on a case that he knew was weak. And now he's defending GL a bit more.
So, theres my case on Tennes. Those are pretty much every single post of his longer than a couple of lines.
He blindly hops on the GL train. Even though he later admits its weak. He insists he's happy to lynch GL, and still votes Rashan. And then he comes on today, and he's not happy to vote GL.
He's not really contributing, not much anyway. He's also voting for little/no reason. In fact, the only time he gives reasoning for voting GL, is when he's removing his vote. He's hopping around, contradicting himself, and being very middle of the road, and under the radar.
vote Tennes
Tennes, on Feb 19 2009, 10:17 PM, said:
Galayn Lord, on Feb 19 2009, 10:12 PM, said:
Not sure about Fener - might be a stunt to prove he's innocent. I am suspecting Shadow wasn't telling the whole truth either.
Who thinks ninjas don't get cf's when they die? They're stealthy buggers after all. And since Ruse was being looked at, it was not much of a sacrifice for the ninjas.
vote Fener
We need to resolve this.
Who thinks ninjas don't get cf's when they die? They're stealthy buggers after all. And since Ruse was being looked at, it was not much of a sacrifice for the ninjas.
vote Fener
We need to resolve this.
Did you just suggest that a ninja vig killed another ninja? Assuming that they know each other, that's daft.
I'm happy to lynch Fener today. I didn't like the people using their kills yesterday and I don't today. We could find ourselves losing this game very quickly. If you have a lynch train going, you can analyse voting patterns and look for inconsistencies or defences of others. But if everyone's just vig killing, we don't get any info apart from a possible (?) cf. It's almost completely random.
We're losing lynches and therefore losing information.
He's happy to lynch Fener. Then some standard stuff about lynch trains=information etc.
Tennes, on Feb 20 2009, 03:02 PM, said:
Blindly agrees with Korlat here.
Tennes, on Feb 20 2009, 11:32 PM, said:
Lynching Rashan for lack of contribution is not a bad idea - Such lynches are always better done sooner rather than later. On the other hand, if I had to talk in Spanish for a day, i'd be mighty pissed.
I'm happy with lynching Galayn Lord (i'm voting for him at the moment), the way he weaseled out of yesterdays lynch and is rapidly weaseling out of todays is worrying. However, the fact that he hammered Shadow is, IMO, a mark in his favour.
I'm just popping in, and I won't be i'll be around for the end of the day. So I have to pick one of them now.
Vote Rashan
I'm happy with lynching Galayn Lord (i'm voting for him at the moment), the way he weaseled out of yesterdays lynch and is rapidly weaseling out of todays is worrying. However, the fact that he hammered Shadow is, IMO, a mark in his favour.
I'm just popping in, and I won't be i'll be around for the end of the day. So I have to pick one of them now.
Vote Rashan
He's happy lynching GL.
Ofc he's happy lynching GL. His votes there isn't it. That vote which he cast at the time for such great reasons.
Votes Rashan in the end, to get a lynch/no contribution.
I did essentially the same thing, so can't really attack his reasons for voting Rashan. Except there is one difference. I didn't like the other major train going, namely, Galayn Lord. Which he did.
Tennes, on Feb 20 2009, 11:48 PM, said:
Telas, on Feb 20 2009, 11:34 PM, said:
Actually tennes, GL voted after the hammer.
Thats the one thing that worries me.
Thats the one thing that worries me.
Oh yeah, you're right. Still, they were within a minute of each other with massive crossposting all over the thread. I can buy it as a crosspost.
Quote
Yesterday, Sil attacks GL. GL gets a pile of votes.
Gets close to deadline. Other people are mentioned. A bunch of people pile up on others cause of lack of time and GL is forgotten.
Today same thing is kinda happening.
Gets close to deadline. Other people are mentioned. A bunch of people pile up on others cause of lack of time and GL is forgotten.
Today same thing is kinda happening.
This worries me too. If Rashan comes back and starts making sense, I wouldn't mind lynching Galayn at all, but I won't be here to do so.
I'm going to bed and leaving my vote where it is.
Thinks GL cross-post hammered, which is fair enough.
Agrees with me. Still wouldn't mind lynching GL.
Tennes, on Feb 21 2009, 11:57 AM, said:
Galain, on Feb 21 2009, 11:47 AM, said:
well fener told the truth, or he is the ninja
vote galayn lord
two derailed trains. thats my case.
going to go do something with my saturday afternoon.

vote galayn lord
two derailed trains. thats my case.
going to go do something with my saturday afternoon.
I'm contradiciting what I said yesterday, but i've slept on this and come to think that it doesn't make GL particularly likely to be guilty.
Speaking as someone who was voting for GL for much of day 2, I can't say i'm too happy about the case. The initial case on him was weak. The day 2 case was only marginally better. It's no great surprise that people weren't too impressed with either case.
Look at it from GL's point of view. Someone makes a weak case on him. He doesn't get lynched because the case was poor. So this is used against him the next day, which is almost as weak. So he gets out of it. And him not getting lynched is used against him again. How frustrating that must be. Do we expect that everyone with a lynch train on them should get lynched, else they're a ninja? By that logic, everyone who does get lynched is a pirate. Which suggests we've got no hope. Which is rubbish, because we can still win this despite the spam and the vig kills.
He voted GL on a case that he knew was weak. And now he's defending GL a bit more.
So, theres my case on Tennes. Those are pretty much every single post of his longer than a couple of lines.
He blindly hops on the GL train. Even though he later admits its weak. He insists he's happy to lynch GL, and still votes Rashan. And then he comes on today, and he's not happy to vote GL.
He's not really contributing, not much anyway. He's also voting for little/no reason. In fact, the only time he gives reasoning for voting GL, is when he's removing his vote. He's hopping around, contradicting himself, and being very middle of the road, and under the radar.
vote Tennes