[Galain]

@mockra - You are asserting that any day kills are pirate only, i just dont see what you are basing that information on unless you knew what the ninja where capable of to begin with. It would be very convenient for you to make your day kill and then claim that. My problem with you is claiming that day vigs are pirates and claiming that rp'ers are all pirates when you conveniently fit both criteria.

[Mockra]

Alright, that makes sense, I suppose.
Which means, who are we left with?
You (and God help you if you are scum this time lmao, it was tempting to Day Kill you after that last)
Ano, Omtose, Silanah, Galain, HP, Tennes, D'riss, Ruse, Kessobahn, Galayn Lord, Serc.
Am I missing someone/including a dead player?
Kaschan and Gamelon are dead, afair.
And I'm gonna accept Serc's claim at face value, for the moment.
And me, Rashan, Korlat, and Fener have RP.

So, we have:
4(3)/11(12) chance of hiting scum with a lynch. That's basically a one in three chance of getting scum with a random lynch. I like those odds a great deal, even at the worst case scenario, where one of them is hiding with us RPers..
Personally, I see no problem in lynching Galayn Lord today, he annoys me, and then lynching someone else with the evidence we get from his train.

[Mockra]

I've seen two Day Kills. Both were claimed by pirates. Also, in the OP, it says the Ninja's watch the Pirates for a day, which I assume to mean they move at night.

[Telas]

I dislike the idea of a random lynch.

A few reasons.

1. People need to give no reasins. Just hop on saying "lynch for sake of it, odds are good"
2. I don't really wish to CI anyone at this stage. Not based on RP. So I dislike the idea of ignoring a set of players.
3. Because people give no reasons, it gives us very little evidence. The only evidence it gives is that there are maybe 6 or 7 players who hopped on for no reason, and one of them could be scum, but how can you tell? The other evidence it gives is that someone started a train for the sake of a lynch which gives no evidence, so its possible they could be scum.

So, the evidence it gives us: Someone on the train could be scum. But figuring out who is extremely hard.

[Galain]

that doesnt mean that we cannot kill at night or they cannot kill at day. traditionally a ninja role was a day killer who died in the attack, or a night killer who died in the attack, i dont see how we can jump to any conclusions because two people both claim to be pirates just because no one counter claims.

[Tennes]

I don't understand why you all assume that a pirate would be forced to rp but a ninja wouldn't. This seems like a very dangerous assumption to me. Why couldn't a ninja get a role like that?

[Mockra]

Well, I think that out of the pool I listed above, there is likely to be scum, more than any other group.
And I'm not suggesting an entirely random lynch. He hasn't posted any content at all, and his general playstyle annoys me.

[Mockra]

@Tennes: You have a point... But why would the Ninja's be speaking Spanish?
Same goes for Korlat, why help us?
And as for Fener, maybe a ninja would pretend to be friendly, but voting night is a sure-fire way to get yourself lynched at some point.

[Telas]

Galain, on Feb 19 2009, 01:18 PM, said:

that doesnt mean that we cannot kill at night or they cannot kill at day. traditionally a ninja role was a day killer who died in the attack, or a night killer who died in the attack, i dont see how we can jump to any conclusions because two people both claim to be pirates just because no one counter claims.

It's possible they hav a day kill, and if lots of people keep dying in the day for a few days, i'll look more at them.
For now, i'm fairly happy to believe them.

[Galain]

Tennes, on Feb 19 2009, 01:19 PM, said:

I don't understand why you all assume that a pirate would be forced to rp but a ninja wouldn't. This seems like a very dangerous assumption to me. Why couldn't a ninja get a role like that?

exactly! and those doing the PI'ing are those that did the rp!

[Kessobahn]

Hi all, back for a bit before having to work again. I was one of the first to go for Galayn Lord and that was because I was calling him on his first round of posts which were just complete spam and not even proper RP, then he came back and spammed a lot more with absolutely no content, which is why I am keeping my vote on him.

[Telas]

Mockra, on Feb 19 2009, 01:21 PM, said:

@Tennes: You have a point... But why would the Ninja's be speaking Spanish?
Same goes for Korlat, why help us?
And as for Fener, maybe a ninja would pretend to be friendly, but voting night is a sure-fire way to get yourself lynched at some point.

No, I think he's saying its possible the ninjas are RP forced aswell. As in, no choice about it, its not a question of "why"

[Telas]

Galain, on Feb 19 2009, 01:21 PM, said:

Tennes, on Feb 19 2009, 01:19 PM, said:

I don't understand why you all assume that a pirate would be forced to rp but a ninja wouldn't. This seems like a very dangerous assumption to me. Why couldn't a ninja get a role like that?

exactly! and those doing the PI'ing are those that did the rp!

That is the other thing thats a bit worrying, they're kinda PI'ing themselves.
For now though, I don't think the rpers are the place to go.

[Tennes]

Mockra, on Feb 19 2009, 01:21 PM, said:

@Tennes: You have a point... But why would the Ninja's be speaking Spanish?

Misdirection, maybe? I can't read the mod's mind, but any number of reasons.

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Same goes for Korlat, why help us?

Dunno, really. But Korlat isn't PI'd because of the rp, but because of the information.

[Anomandaris]

OK, I am back. Have 25 pages to catch up on, but before I head into the realm of the beast of da spam, anyone feel free to give da man a time count. Boyyyyyyy!

[Mockra]

Hmmm, alright, fair enough. I can see your points.

[Mockra]

Great, Jamaican roleplay...

[Galain]

Mockra, on Feb 19 2009, 01:31 PM, said:

Hmmm, alright, fair enough. I can see your points.

i am willing to change my vote as the spam has ceased which was really bugging me tbh.

[Mockra]

Leave it on if you want, I'm not particularly bothered.
But aye, I'm gonna start playing seriously now.

[Anomandaris]

OK, I skimmed back the last couple of pages and looks like theres about 6 ow-ahs left in de day. I'll go read de tread and see what I might find.